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Barrows over Scales at RWB is interesting. A fit Denton has to play LWB surely ?. Only recognized defensive midfielder in Clunan not starting.

S11D, not sure about that line up.

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Butler has said countless times that we are to play with two strikers so chalk the 3 upfront idea. Roberts playing as an attacking midfielder/no 10 behind whitehall and carlton could work with two central midfielders but it’s first game of the season away at a good side at this level and that would be maybe deemed too attacking.

I’d go with

fitz

Nicholson
evans
Max

denton
scales

Brogan
clunan
rowley

Whitehall
carlton

I’d imagine at home we’d probably ditch Rowley for Roberts and go a bit more attacking.

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Butler was experimenting against Chesterfield. No way he’ll start Barrows at RWB and Nicholson on the left side. Denton and Law will be ahead of Nicholson for position as he’s been brought in to play CB.

I wouldn’t have played Nicholson there but Butler probably just wanted to see him in that position. I wouldn’t worry too much, we’ll see a more balanced team once the season starts.

I wouldn’t be too surprised if Rowley, Clunan and Brogan played in CM with Roberts playing in behind Whitehall.

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Scales will more than likely start at RWB and Nicholson will start at CB as Butler even said that’s where he’ll be playing. I wouldn’t get too down about us losing to a team with momentum playing two leagues higher.

We played really well against Hartlepool and now we lose against a team a level higher and all the doom and gloom follows.

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It wouldn’t surprise me that when all the merch is purchased the club will have fully settled what debt it did have left. The orders are being dealt with around the corner from club shop and even the club shop was/is packed with with fans making fresh purchases.

Club shop is running like clock work.

I should imagine that the club shop money, coupled with the open day and iron aid will be pretty substantial. Especially for a club at this level of football.

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Butterfield was on fire for half a season and was found out in the second half. Butterfield laboured after Christmas the same as some of the other players did.

I think Brogan will be just fine as his replacement.

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Ipswich have a agreed a fee, 500k upfront but with add ons 750,000k. I’m sure we sold him with a sell on clause in the deal.

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I think the council owns the land which the training pitch is on.

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I don’t know how true this is but read on twitter that the council may end up redeveloping/repurposing the training pitch and as tops said, we’ll develop Quibell park and move there with help of cause from the council.

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ironfromafar wrote:

Clunans place should not be guaranteed or assumed

I didn’t include Clunan as part of my possible line up because he’s nailed on as a starter in terms of his ability, I chose him due to balance, as he’s the only recognized defensive central midfielder we have.

As an example Roberts overall has more way more natural ability than Clunan but if say Rowley and Brogan start it would be too attacking and we’d probably get easily cut through down the middle of the pitch. Brogan himself is an attacking player and Rowley is more of a neat and tidy playmaker type but throw Roberts in there it could well end up being all over the place.

Shrimpton may be able to play slightly withdrawn to cover Clunan position, but as it stands Clunan purely from a balance standpoint would be in my CM midfield three.

I’m not by any means saying purely based on ability that Clunan commands a first team start.

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In the future we may redevelop Quibell Park for a much need upgraded training facility.

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I fancy Law and Scales to start as wing backs as Denton hasn’t had much game time and is slightly behind the other players. Scales has taken to that position very well. I think they’ll add the need width and quality of balls into the box.

Carlton and Whitehall up front will cause problems at this level. Brogan, Clunan and Rowley in CM with Nicholson, Max and Evans at the back. Fitzy in goal.

No, that will not be the nailed on line up, but just a possible one. If you go through the whole team it’s actually a really good team for this level. I’m pretty optimistic for this coming season.

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Apollo11 wrote:

It’s saddening but on this evidence I really don’t expect us to do anything this season.

How did you come to that conclusion ?

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Michelle and co have worked wonders. Ground looks great too. The progress made in such a short space of time is absolutely incredible.

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Mk, he was at a family event the other day, I mean before that he didn’t get too much game time because he picked up a slight knock. Cassidy, a striker may be more helpful, but braithwaite looks a good player to me and is only young. I just think when you look at what he brings to the table we can’t really turn him down.

I don’t know if the club is still keen on signing another GK, but Braithwaite and a young capable striker would make sense. Turnbull did say there would be room for 1 or two more.

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Whitehall picked up a niggle before yesterday hence why Butler was being careful with his minutes. I know what Cassidy is saying, but if Butler gave Whitehall more game time there may have been a risk of him breaking down. Whitehall is playing against Hartlepool.

Agree with less about Braithwaite, he is looks a really accomplished player. Good athlete and decent turn of speed. Looks composed on the ball with a positive range of passing. Lives locally, he won’t want much in terms of wages and is only 20yrs old.

Butler is keen on him too.

No brainer.

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Butler said it was to take the work load off the other two when it comes to mini games e.t.c. Campbell will be doing most of the other stuff that’s non first team but Fitz would also have to chip in which increases his chances of picking up an injury. Sounds like Butler wants to save him primarily for 1st team duties and have young Johnson to come in and work alongside Campbell to do the other stuff.

I suspect this may have something to do with Fitz only having a year left on his contract and if we don’t go up this season he may end up moving on.

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Sounded plausible to me about policing costs and the extra days rest for the players.

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Campbell looks a good keeper to me and the lad on trial pulled off one really good save last night but too early to tell if he’s any good as he didn’t have to face all that much.

Kelly will be on a lot and we don’t even really need him as Law and Denton can play wing back. Roberts could play in behind two strikers in an advanced midfield role but doesn’t naturally fit into this system and Fitz is a really good keeper, but Campbell looks more than capable to replace him.

I could see those 3 being on a 2k or near 2k a week as they were signed from teams higher up in Hilton’s time here. Paying that for players at this level is mental.

Roberts is a good player, but just goes to show with that young lad last night on trial that there are capable players out there. If young Braithwaite keeps it up in our next two matches, you’d have though he’d be a good addition and he’s only 20yrs old. Roberts makes me feel uneasy because you know an injury is coming, you just don’t know when.

Kelly and Fitz we could move on now and be fine. Roberts would be harder to replace but we have a lot of CM’s anyway and Braithwaite may keep impressing/improving and could sign. As a straight winger Roberts would be a hell of a lot harder to replace but not sure that’s the case as he’ll be playing centrally now in this system.

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Shocked by young Braithwaite. Looked poor game before but looked a really good young player when he came on and what a strike for his goal. Cliff, I fully understand what you’re saying regarding Beestin, but Butler will play him slightly off a main striker in a no 10 role to link play a bit. Beestin when played up top in pre season so far has been played in that way and Butler commented on it in a recent post match interview.

I wouldn’t play him as a main striker by any means but playing him a tad deeper linking up with The fish, Carlton or Whitehall, I think he’d do more than ok and has looked pretty good linking play up while playing as a striker so far.

Scales looks better at RWB than he did in CM. Yes, I know the teams have been lower quality, but he looks to have taken to the position really well. I don’t think we’ll really miss Butterfield all that much as Brogan looks good to score a fair few this season. Carlton looks sharp. Rowley looks really neat and tidy too in CM.

Looks promising.

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According to Schofield he’s simply here on trial and got game time. I can’t see him being on much and was on trial at Notts County before he went to play in U.A.E, so must have something about him.

I imagine we’re planning for the future because I don’t see Fitz staying beyond this season if we don’t go up this time. Long term thinking maybe at play here.

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Campbell might be injured as he didn’t have his training kit on. No idea why Fitz didn’t play though.

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MK Iron wrote:

Appreciate Kelly yet to appear and Denton and Barrows (who I assume will be first choice) may get better with practice but I think goals might be hard to come by if those 2 are our wide attacking threats.

I think Scales will be first choice for the RWB position and probably Denton for the left, but Law has done well so far and obviously offers more going forward than Denton. I wouldn’t be too surprised if Law started and we had him and Scales on either side. I should think Denton would be ahead of him though.

Ross as back up to Scales plus he can play at CB. LWB we have Denton, Kelly and Law. I can’t see Kelly suiting that role personally as he wasn’t the most expansive LB to begin with.

I agree with cassidy on the striker positions, carlton and whitehall will be first choice. Fishburn looks a more than handy targetman option and Beestin when he’s played up there has played in a no 10 link role and has looked good.

Best we could hope for is a promising youngster but even then they would be bench warming as carlton and whitehall will be starting most weeks when fit. I still personally think we need a midfield spoiler for balance, if we lose Clunan we’re screwed as he’s the only real defensive midfielder we have.

Beestin will be a striker and Scales will be wing back so leaves us with 5 in total and 4 are either box to box or attacking mid players.

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I still think we need a midfield destroyer/spoiler. Apart from Clunan who’s not overly physical anyway, who have we got in that bracket ?

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No Evans, No Whitehall, No scales and had Brogan playing wing back. That trialist CM was supposed to have been pretty poor as well which wouldn’t have helped.

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Braithwaite didn’t do well from what I read earlier. I saw some good things written about Fishburn and was supposed to have been much better which is a relief. What I’ve seen of him up to now, he hadn’t look that great.

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mistertonmick wrote:

last night Roberts was playing more central

Of course Roberts was playing centrally in that system. Only two positions he can play in that formation is a an attacking central midfielder or off a main striker, both which are central.

You don’t need to be any footballing genius to expect Butler to field that formation when he’s set up with it in every pre season game so far. I mean come on Mick, let’s be serious here.

Butler signing another CB hints towards that as well.

There’s a chance he could do a complete u-turn and field a different system, but it’s highly unlikely.

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mistertonmick wrote:

Left side central defender or full back, Kelly can cover at right back, then there are injuries and suspensions and you need a subs bench, so everyone will be needed Burny

We’ll be playing with wing backs and he wasn’t even an attacking full back so highly doubt he’ll suit playing as a wing back. Especially not right wing back and we have Barrows and scales as options there.

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Beestin will definitely be used as a striker so we’ll be fine up there. Law and scales will be used as wing backs. I can’t see where Kelly fits in as we have Denton.

Why do we need 3 left wing backs ?

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Nicholson is a left sided CB/ LB. Nicholson said yesterday that Butler has brought him in as a left sided CB. We’ll definitely be playing with 3 CB’s with wing backs as we’ve played that formation throughout all the pre season games.

If we do switch up formation throughout the season though it still only leaves us with Law, Roberts as genuine wide options. Carlton played there last season but is more of a striker. That’s why I’m surprised we didn’t sign Burden as he wouldn’t have been on much and can play all across the front line.

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