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Ironawe, what makes it all the more laughable is Charlie Goode, the only player to be sold for a sizeable fee, we let go and let somebody else profited lol
If we sign an experienced GK, RB and CM with McGahey due back, we’ll be alright. Van Veen to come in later on as well.
We need those experienced heads for the spine desperately. If Clarke wasn’t a perma crock we wouldn’t need a RB but some bright spark signed him back up and made him captain.
Good Ole Swannster.
I was surprised with the quality of experienced players without clubs when I looked last night.
Anthony Wordsworth 31yrs old, plenty of games under his belt..surprised he was without a club. A RB who played at league one level last season who’s available and those GK’s.
Only question is if the budget is taken up with Swann’s scatter gun approach in going for quantity over quality.
I know people may say “oh, well if they were any good, they wouldn’t be without clubs” but with the cap now put on clubs they simply have reduced budgets and at our level have to pad their squads out with youngsters so a lot of these experienced players just find themselves with a club.
You could very well be right but signing an experienced RB until end of the season wouldn’t carry that much risk providing we can stump up his wage.
Swann needs to go deep in his pocket and pay Dales contract up, we have enough wingers and he’s not getting game time. May as well move him on and get a few free agents in, in his place.
Iron awe, we need a RB and an experienced CM player….signing a GK won’t be enough. Spence is a good enough player but we need a calm head in CM.
Nobody at the club seems to rate Rowe and Clarke’s a perma crock.
Signing another CB is out of the question, Onariase and McGahey when he’s back will be more than good enough. In my opinion we have much more important players we need. A GK, RB and CM are all absolute musts.
Ben Alnick 33 yr old gk, previously at Bolton is available, as is Mark Howard 34yr old gk..also Paul Jones 34yr old gk previously at Sheff Wednesday.
Anthony Wordsworth for CM and Calum Woods at RB. Woods played 12 games last season in lg 1 with two assists so he must still have something to offer.
All those GK’s are better than Watson and all experienced.
Signing the players up before a manager comes through the door, all being kids with no real track record, no experience and then signing a rookie manager to manage them was always asking for trouble.
What chairman in their right mind pre appoints a captain before a manager is even here ?
Swann and his meddling again. If by a stroke of luck we stay up this season, he needs to go before he completely sinks the club.
Cox isn’t entirely blameless either. Gillead isn’t a Wing Back and Hippolyte shouldn’t even be on the bench, nevermind on the pitch at LWB.
Rowe’s fit, he should have played him and Butroid…both questionable but you don’t keep playing square pegs in round holes in an already struggling team and expect it to turn around.
Cox is clueless, we need an experienced manager through the door to sort this mess out and even he’ll probably be tearing his hair out “providing he has any to begin with”
Not really sure what Lillis is doing here, he can’t be having any input, surely ?
When I saw Conrad Logan play for mansfield last im pretty sure he was the wrong side of 20 stone
Neville Southall looked a dive away from a certain heart attack for years in the prem and he was pretty decent.
Cassidy, there’s a lot of experienced players out of contract..more than you’d probably have thought if you checked. There are some pretty decent player. The thing is, now budgets are cut, plenty of teams are having to go now with smaller squads and more younger players to fill their squads up, which means a lot of these players are without a club.
Hardly idea as they’ll take 3 weeks to a month to get their fitness but as we’ve said already, they’re our only option now.
Wordsworth in particular is just what we need, not blessed with great pace from midfield but he’s played plenty of games and he’s pretty classy for this level…certainly miles better than anybody we have “which admittedly isn’t saying a lot” but you would have thought he’d be a good signing.
Ben Alnick 33 yr old gk, previously at Bolton is available, as is Mark Howard 34yr old gk..also Paul Jones 34yr old gk previously at Sheff Wednesday.
As I said, there are players out there.
Cox said he picked his best players ?
Rowe was fit. Olomola should have at least been on the bench.
I feel sorry for Cox because he’s having to babysit these shitty players but he’s clueless himself. Hippolyte at LWB and Gillead at RWB ?
Cox signed Hippolyte, which begs the question…..has he signed the right player or not ?. Cox said he impressed him when watching him as assistant for Notts County….can’t have been him surely ?
I’m being serious when I say this now….he’s one of the worst players I’ve seen in a long time. Taylor isn’t a CM midfield player either, you can see why he’s more suited to playing further up.
Stick Rowe in at RB. Butroid LB and go 4/4/2. Eisa and Gillead are our only hope of scoring a goal so least play them where they’re supposed to be played.
Loft is dogshit. A complete donkey. Jarvis looks half decent, I’d stick him upfront with Turan until Olomola is fit.
Besides 3 or maybe 4 players who gave it a go, they we’re a disgrace. McAttee needs moving on, I think he’s already gone in his own head anyway.
Just been doing a bit of digging.
Conrad Logan 34yr GK is available on a free transfer. I remember watching him play for Manfield, he’s used to have bright ginger hair. Always used to be pretty decent.
Calum Woods..at tranmere last season, RB played 13 matches last season in lg one and set up 2 goals. 33yr old.
Junior Brown as the obvious LB.
Darren Potter 35yr old CM.
Will Atkinson 32 yr old CM.
Anthony Wordsworth 31 yr old cm. Pick of those 3 you would have thought.Plenty of players out there without a club, no excuse. I wouldn’t mind Conrad Logan, Woods, Junior brown and Wordsworth here.
Only problem is now is that Swann “blinded by his masterplan” signed a shit load of players we’re stuck with which are now eating up the budget.
Old Swannster went for quantity over quality. Why oh why doesn’t he just sit in the background and not get involved…never bloody learns.
I’m of the same opinion. Swann’s made even more of a balls up. Swann’s probably thought “o, Crewe can play well with youngsters, we’ll go down that route.
What he failed to factor in, is the fact Crewe have the coaching infrastructure and have been taking that approach for decades.
Swannster again has involved himself in the footballing side of things when he’s got no fucking idea what he’s doing. What chairman in their right mind buys the players in “all kids”..appoints a club captain and then signs a rookie manager to babysit ?
The guy is a walking disaster. What made me laugh was, cox said Swann was trying up until deadline day to sign experienced players but couldn’t afford the outlay. This is why chairmen shouldn’t get involved in anything other than signing off on deals when they have absolutely no clue about the football side of things.
When they do, crap like this happens. It appears he’s realised his little plan of going with kids hasn’t worked even this early on.
This is why chairman should sign a manager and let them do their job. Honestly, he’ll never learn. Swann’s meddling will be the death of us.
Now we have to hope we sign some good experienced pro’s to see they can save us.
Fingers crossed we stay up this season and then Swann can move on. I suppose he’s had a good crack at it but he’s the one who’s responsible for this shambles. Enough’s enough now, he needs to move on…he’s killing the club.
“Who’s your favourite manager Peter ?” lol
Extracting the urine a little I feel. Swannster reeled off his footballing upbringing..coaching e.t.c.
I wish he felt a little more like an actual chairman and not a football adviser/coach/wannabe manager/football player recruiter.
That’s half the bloody problem.
Expect 3 cb’s tomorrow with 2 wingbacks. I can feel it in my bones !
Well, free transfers it is.
Free transfers it is then. Probably best bet, get a few decent experienced one’s in and get them up to fitness. Hardly ideal but it’s all we’ve got.
No doubt he’ll go down on the “wasted scrap heap pile”. One thing I hate is talented footballers piss around and waste their talent when you get less talented in the lower leagues who try their hearts out and some of which never get the break they need higher up.
Free’s up a wage anyway, hopefully we get a few in.
Cox said yesterday Dales was on his way out, as was Mooney so no doubt that’s hit a snag.
Hippolyte, Eisa, Gillead and Green are more than enough wingers. Dales is half decent, I feel sorry for him he deserves playing time somewhere.
If we can sign anybody I’d want a LB and RB above all else. Rowe is fit bit doesn’t seem to be rated by Cox and Clarke is held together with sellotape.
I’d want an experienced CM who actually get’s forward but let’s not be too greedy. I doubt we’ll even get the 2 FB’s in.
I wonder if we dig up any experienced players from somewhere. I know Dales and Mooney are going out..both loan deals I think.
Swann appears to be the master controller. Why would we appoint a director of football when Swann’s here ?. No doubt he’s able to do it all.
McAtee won’t play he’s deemed quite unfit in terms of match fitness he was brought off after 60 mins for the u23’s. Olomola won’t be fit either.
Hard to figure out who goes upfront though. Turan, Loft and Jarvis are all target men. Mooney’s due to go out on loan. Loft and Turan didn’t work. I suppose we could try Turan and Jarvis ?
I agree though McAtee would be the better fit with either of those though.
By the way, even though Rowe came through 90 mins for the u23’s..Cox is considering going with 3 CB’s. I don’t think he really rates Rowe.
Rowe should help that before Clarke is back. Even though I think O’Malley will develop into the better players, I’d go for Butroid and see how he get’s on. O’Malley would be a good player with 3 other good defenders around him but for the time being I’d go with Butroid, he has a bit more experience.
Onariase needs to play though….he’s deemed fully fit now and Rowe also got 90 minutes the other night. Clarke and McGahey are both back in training so Mcgahey needs sticking next to Onariase in a few weeks time when he’s fit.
if we actually play to our strengths
Well so far we’re playing with tucked in wingers with no width, with 1 striker up top…if that’s anything to go by..I think people wanting that maybe in for a rude awakening.
Amazing what playing with two strikers and proper wingers achieves. Fancy that, who would have thought.
Maybe there is something in playing positively after all. I’d stick Olomola and Turan upfront on Saturday…can’t do any harm.
Rowe and Onariase can come in as well. No expecting a win by any means. I’d just settle for a better performance.
I’d be tempted to stick Butroid back in at left back. I know he had a dodgy game when he did get his chance but O’Malley “even though I like him and has a lot of talent” is often caught way out of position.
Question is who would partner Onariase ?. Cordner get’s rag dolled like a little girl and Bedeau at times looks a like a death trap.
I’d like to see Dales get more of a go as well…he’s good enough to come off the bench.
Scunnymatt, I’m you’ve read my offering above your post. I also pin the blame on Swann…not hard to see who’s at fault.
It was either last week or the week before, Swann came on the radio pre match and knew a hell of a lot about how we were going to play.
I suspect other parties down at the club may have a hand in team matters. I’m not saying they do by any means, but, it’s what I’ve been suspecting now for quite some time.
I’ve had my fill of Swann now to be honest.
Ideally we stay up by the skin of our teeth this coming season and he waves by to the club. In my eyes he’s the catalyst for all the bullshit. We need a chairman to come in, in the mould of Wharton who employ good honest people and let’s them do their jobs.
This is all I ask for. No bullshit with club employees signing players..just a steady chairman who takes care of the business side of things and stays in the background.
Until we get that, we’re never going to move forward as a club…it’s need completely restructuring and returning to how it used to be under Wharton.
I don’t hate Swann by any means but my club means more to me than he does and I feel he’s the one who’s front and centre of all the bullshit. I was hoping things would have changed this season and he would have learnt his lesson but yet again a mixed bag of completely the wrong players signed by people who have no real idea.
We have an extremely worrying unbalanced squad with little to no experience with an inexperienced manager to boot. I suppose we had to go down that route though because what experienced manager would have come here with other people signing all the players and pre appointing a captain ?
Cox isn’t even really here as a manager, he’s here really as a caretaker.
I’m sick to death of it all.
Disagree. Salford owners probably saw the rot setting in and got rid. By the sounds of it, Alexander’s negativity has got him the sack again, he did the same here.
Did really well but the wheels were clearly falling off and he got ultra negative which in turn made us even worse. Alexander got booted out of Fleetword for the same…started off well and then the wheels fell off towards the end and was fired.
Maybe that’s just him…get’s so far but is unable to get make that final step as manager to get a team promoted. I still don’t forget how negatively he set us up at the play off match at home, once he made subs and put the more positive players on we absolutely battered them last 20 minutes.
I firmly believe if he showed more bravery we would have gave them a good hiding.
We’ve had decent loan players in the past, Lolley comes to mind who was genuinely talented who never really got a chance.
The big difference is when Wharton was chairman he employed good, honest people in key positions and let them do their job while keeping in the background. A simple formula that worked.
Swann came in ripped the infrastructure apart and put the Swann family front and center of all things Scunthorpe United.
What chairman in their right mind signs players off their own back “including a RB who’s a perma crock” who he decides to make club captain..surprise, surprise the player of real experience is injured.
We have a squad now that’s about as unbalanced as a squad I’ve seen for many years and the glaring problems we had last season “lack of a spine” still haven’t been addressed.
Club now has 4 defensive midfielders , 5 wingers and a raft of strikers with no real proven track record “besides Van Veen and to some extent Olomola.
This is the worse squad in terms of balance I think we’ve ever had. This has been the result of this fecking committee down at GP playing real life Football Manager with the club signing players when they have no real idea who we really need for this level of football.
We’ve been down this road before with Swann. This is just who he is. Post covid, once things stabilize..Swann needs to move on.
Let’s not beat around the bush here, Swann is the problem and the catalyst really for all the clubs misgivings.
Complete and utter mess. It’s been stated time and time again that he needs to keep his nose out of the footballing side and let the manager come in and sign his own players, he has no idea what he’s doing but he can’t help himself.
The club is arguably in a much worse position now than when he came here…it’s a complete and utter mess. I’m all for youth been giving a chance but to go down that route with little to no experience with an inexperienced manager is just reckless.
If Rowe is fit and we start Onariase we might only lose 2-0 instead of 4.
I don’t think it’s so much a case of all the central midfielders being poor, it’s just a very poor balance. Beestin, Hornshaw, Vincent and Spence are all defensive midfielders. Pugh and Raynner silva are both kids so there’s only Taylor who is something different but he’s even more suited playing in the no 10 role.
Throw into the mix we have an abundance of wide players. This is what you get when you have your chairman and whoever else keep picking players. A daft, unbalanced squad.
October 10, 2020 at 8:40 pm in reply to: The Lineup I’d Like To See. (Or something pretty close.) #195662I suggest you need to see the FGR thread…you’re reading things I haven’t even written. Maybe that’s an age thing.
“stick Olomola upfront”
“We really do need Clarke, Mcgahey and Olomola back though before long.”Look, I’m trying to manage your expectations here. A fit Olomola will not save our season, I wish it were that simple.
I never stated it would be that simple, neither did I say Olomola would save our season. I don’t know where you’ve read that.
We need experience badly. Clarke, McGahey and Olomola would provide that. I would gladly throw Van Veen in the mix but he’s a fair bit away.
Those 3 with Onariase would help massively.
October 10, 2020 at 8:29 pm in reply to: The Lineup I’d Like To See. (Or something pretty close.) #195656I’d stick Taylor next to Spence we can’t keep playing Vincent and Spence as the two CM’s…no cutting passes, zero creativity and play far too slow.
Rowe will be back by next game..so he can go RB. Onariase has to come in for Cordner. Bedeau’s dodgy as well but Cordner after that offering needs taking out.
4/5 weeks down the line I’d stick McGahey in as well in place of Bedeau and hopefully Clarke will be back before then as well.
I’d go next match with
O’Malley Onariase Bedeau Rowe
Eisa Spence Taylor Gillead
Olomola Jarvis
Fingers crossed Olomola get’s his fitness up. I’d give Jarvis another go… when he actually got service he looked a good enough player. Good finish as well.
I felt a bit sorry for him, besides the first 15 minutes he had zero service. I’d like McAtee up there but the only problem I have with Cox playing him is that due to his negative nature, he’ll have him playing the no 10 role way back from whoever the central striker is.
I suppose if he played Olomola and Jarvis/Loft….least we’d have 2 actual strikers playing.
We’re crying out for experience.
I’d stick Onariase in right now alongside Bedeau for the time being until McGahey is back. Clarke at RB and stick Olomola upfront with Loft or whoever else.
O’Malley Onariase Mcgahey Clarke…..suddenly an experienced back line becomes a lot more battle hardened. That’s obviously some time away yet.
Vincent and Spence for me are both worrying me…they’re too alike and we have zero creativity from the center of the pitch. I’d pick Spence over Vincent and play Taylor alongside him.
We really do need Clarke, Mcgahey and Olomola back though before long. Onariase needs to be in right now though. Cordner and Bedeau were both sub part but Cordner despite his size is a pussy cat, he got absolutely rag dolled all over the place.
No aggression, No battle qualities…Matt absolutely murdered him. Never have I seen a CB with such size play so passively.
I couldn’t quite believe what I was watching at times. I remember Crosby, Stephen Foster in their pomp and now you look at these two and you think what the feck are these two doing.
Cordner today was especially shocking….absolutely pathetic.
I’d like a reflective pin badge on Terry Barwick to finish off my shrine but not been able to locate one !
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