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The players have stuck two fingers up by standing together in the centre circle at Marine seemingly united in this utter tripe of abysmal football.
I imagine this to be a publicity stunt by those higher up to project the supposed squad unity “I personally think it’s bullshit” but there you go.
Not good enough and hasn’t a clue. Fans have turned and Michelle needs to stop burying her head in the sand. Butler needs letting go before January and arguably should have been during the recent 2 week gap we had.
All the board are hiding and it’s doing no good. Butler and schofield aren’t the answer. Michelle and co need to wake up and admit this before anymore damage is done.
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4-4-2 much better a lot more positive throughout against a very good opposition.
Either the poster is Clearly a wind up merchant or they need urgent medical attention.
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People used to swear at football matches before the internet even came to fruition.
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That wasn’t due to Whitehall’s brilliance or creativity. The penalty was dubious at best in which the keeper got a hand to it but couldn’t keep it out and was gifted the ball by a complete defensive howler and rolled it home.
Happy he scored the two goals, but don’t be coming on here trying to claim he’s some kind of expert marksman for scoring those two goals ” both had a huge element of luck to them “
Butler will definitely get sacked sooner rather than later. Butler’s had two more week to work with them and still look disjointed and terrible. That first half and 20 odd minutes of the second half were absolutely shocking.
Butler came across as a right sulky pillock. All ollie did was ask the questions that the vast majority of the fans would have asked. A win is fantastic, but that was pure dog shite again. A dodgy penalty and a defensive howler has saved him for another week or two. Butler is a very lucky man.
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Deereyme66, you’re posting as if Butler is setting the world alight and he’s been unfairly targeted. A large section of the fanbase are just sick of him now and want him gone.
Nothing personal deerey, he’s here as the manager and he’s shite at his job.
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If the teams around us win their game in hand we move down to 5th/6h and are currently 16th in the form table. I can see us winning Marine which will give Butler another few weeks in then we’ll lose the next two.
Does rene not realise he’ll have various scouts looking at him, while we’ve got no money after signing another targetman ?
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I’d rather us sign a winger.
Law will at least offer the option of actually playing a genuine 4/4/2 with width, but question is does he stay fit for more than 5 minutes ?. I’d also leave Whitehall out and go with Beck and Harris up top. Beestin and Brogan in CM. If Butler plays the players in their natural positions we won’t have a bad team at all.
No manager can be right all of the time, but I’d take one that has had success and has been right some of the time as apposed to Butler.
I’m honestly surprised at the lack of action from the board. They must be comfortable with the performances because the silence is deafening. They will know fans don’t believe in Butler and yet nothing.
I wonder whether their plan is to see this season out with Butler In charge and then go part time. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if Michelle doesn’t open up more shares to fans and go down the route of this being a fan owned club with her stepping away.
I just have a hunch this is where we’ll end up.
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Best bet would be to get rid of Butler and Schofield and sign a new management team up on rolling contracts, which we used to do back in the day.
I remember big hairs last effort when he came back to manage us. No thanks.
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I don’t buy that they are all average/poor for this level, sorry not buying it. I will however say the balance of the squad is off a cliff and needs rectifying A.S.A.P
For instance a flat back four with denton and Barrows as full backs with boyce and Max isn’t bad, especially with fitz in goal.
a midfield 3 of Brogan, Beestin and Clunan isn’t poor at this level
A front 3 of Roberts one side, carlton the other with either whitehall or Beck through the middle isn’t bad.
The lack of balance throughout the squad doesn’t accommodate 4/4/2 formation but there are enough good players for this level to play an effective 4/3/3. The kicker is we need an experienced manager who knows what he’s doing to be able to mould them into a unit. As said above though, we’ll definitely need to sort out the squad balance as soon as can.
I guarantee you that if we had a capable manager and assistant manager in charge we’d have somewhat of a cohesive unit. It’s no coincidence we’ve had Butler and Schofield in charge and we’ve only had 3 complete performances all season, one of which was against Farsley who look absolutely terrible and will go down come the end of the season.
The squad does need work but most of this is down to Butler and Schofield who are both simply awful.
Deerey not one of us know exactly who’s out there who will be more suitable to this club at this level, but I’m sure there’s many better than Butler. I think that’s fair to say.
I never said it would be easy to get somebody in, but with a gap between our next match this is our best chance.
Do you think that’s a fair assessment Deerey ?
Either way more fans will decide to stay away if this rubbish is carried on. Perfect time now to get rid as we have a good amount of time until the next match. Enough is enough now as it’s clear Butler is a lost cause.
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Michelle stated Butler was offered and then accepted a verbal contract to become manager so for the first seven games wasn’t even on a written contract until Michelle offered him one.
What makes it all the more silly is if Michelle had just held off and kept with the verbal contract to see the downturn in form he would have been so easy and cheap to get rid of. Schofield is the questionable one because as said on here yesterday, the formation we’re playing now is the same one he used to field when he was manager.
All in all we it was a terrible decision signing Butler and letting him bring Schofield in, which now looking back was possibly the worst assistant we could have possibly have brought in.
This squad does need balancing out, but an experienced manager who knows the level and who’s had success before will know what he needs. Whoever comes in will have to try to offload the higher earners and recruit cheaper hungrier players to flesh the squad out.
I think they are out there, but just a case of identifying the right ones and getting them in.
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A poster said yesterday that this system was apparently played by Schofield throughout his managerial career so it would appear Butler and Schofield are as bad as each other.
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Keeping the current pairing and having a Director of Football with powers to overrule
Already proven Butler and Schofield are clueless. I’d rather have a new clued up manager at the helm rather than relying on a director of football being competent enough to reverse all of Butlers bad decisions.
In my opinion that would be even worse because if we end up with a clueless director of football, we really are in deep shite..even deeper than what we’re in now.
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WGs you are commenting like AB has already been relieved of his duties
Wishful thinking on my part.
but if he wins the next 3 he could be December manager of the month !!
That ship has sailed I’m afraid. There has to be an experienced manager who knows this level inside who would want to come, surely ?
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That Alfreton match was absolutely shocking. No pattern of play whatsoever and just hoofed the ball to Beck. That’s not on the players and is purely down to Butler who would rather sit most players behind the ball and hoof it to Beck to ensure we don’t concede.
I was struggling to remember a more poor match. That was beyond a joke. To say that was unacceptable is putting it mildly.
Whitehall as a no 10 and dropping Brogan. Butler’s head has completely gone.
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Got to get rid now surely with the two week gap till our next match. We won’t ever get as a good of a time to get rid. It would give the new manage ample time to then assess the squad an realise what he needs. I doubt it would take longer than a few days when he realises the options he has out wide.
Humberside where waiting over an hour for him to come out for the post match interview. Was Michelle and co having a lengthy conversation with Butler maybe ?
Fingers crossed that was the case.
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Butler’s approach is similar to Knill’s. Those two are both cut from the same defensive cloth.
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If we get a new manager in who get’s rid of some of the top earners to draft in some hungry cheaper players, whilst making sure he get’s some wide players in Beck could play the Whitehall role if used correctly.
Harris from what I saw against Alfreton isn’t really a targetman, but seems to have a bit of pace and he’s fairly mobile so he and Beck could work. Carlton could also add something if he finds his feet “whenever that may be”.
Evans could be moved on for a cheaper option and Whitehall could be replaced with somebody just as effective for cheaper I’m sure. Denton will be on a fair wedge and he’s been substandard all season. There must be a comparable LB who would want less who will add more than him.
Is Clunan and Scales really that great ?
Whoever comes in will need to do some real wheeling and dealing.
That contract extension looks a bit ill timed now!
That wasn’t a contract extension he was offered, it was an actual written contract he was offered. Those first 7 games he was in charge before he signed his contract was via a verbal agreement.
Makes it all the more annoying because if Michelle had waited a little while longer he would have been so easy and cheap to get rid of.
All he keeps saying is either “we’re going to improve or we can and will improve”. Hearing that constantly now post match for the last 2 months. Butler hasn’t a clue and with what he’s going through with his Dad, he needs paying up and have the pressure taken off him because it’s clearly too much for him to handle. Clearly can’t handle it and lacks the know how.
That today was shameful. Don’t even get me started on that dreaded formation and where he was playing certain players. Butler clearly won’t/can’t learn and really needs sacking off now.
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