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Exactly Siderite. A “government” hasn’t got any morals or principles. Individuals do.
Can you name another British footballer playing in Saudi ? I can’t.
Henderson is English still had 2 years on his Liverpool contract and a good chance of playing at euro 24. Not exactly on the breadline.
He’s gone to a club with 5000 average attendance that are paying £700k a week. I really didn’t think he’d actually do it.Doesn’t look good on Liverpool either, they’ve got £12 million from the Saudi club for him.
He is a property developer!
Is he? How many properties has he developed?
I don’t know IB but Maxwell Cohen are or were involved with the Bridge Inn at Cotmanhay and wasn’t there a closed restaurant on the A52 at Elton which has been converted to flats which was something to do with one of Hilton’s companies ?
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The ad- hom attacks are laughable.
These references , do you understand any of them?
John Campbell goes through scientific papers,with analysis , not veering from given facts.
Your counter evidence has no substance- unless you can enlighten me further?
“Waiting for another cartoon”, to show your intelligence.I did read them, and broadly understood them, there’s a few big words but with a dictionary and Google I got by.
Why don’t you do the same, open your eyes beyond the narrow world you currently inhabit.
Here’s the cartoon you asked for :
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Not to mention the revenue trade off created by 1899 “free” season tickets. My estimate is £600-£700k but feel free to correct me if my maths is incorrect.
While we’re not mentioning things. Not to mention wasn’t the original 1899 plan to sell off and redevelop everything except the actual stadium ?
“They’re linked in the article”,so I don’t see the point?
Come on rub my face in it, put the evidence on here, show the rest of here that your sources are sound.Here’s some of it from the article –
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1 – Xie et al. (2022) Long-term cardiovascular outcomes of COVID-19. Nature Medicine.
2 – Yuk et al. (2023) Association of COVID-19 with short- and long-term risk of cardiovascular disease and mortality: a prospective cohort in UK Biobank. Cardiovascular Research.
3 – Raisi-Estabragh et al. (2022) Cardiovascular disease and mortality sequelae of COVID-19 in the UK Biobank. Heart.
4 – Xu et al. (2021) COVID-19 Vaccination and Non–COVID-19 Mortality Risk — Seven Integrated Health Care Organizations, United States, December 14, 2020–July 31, 2021. Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.
5 – Bilinski et al. (2023) COVID-19 and Excess All-Cause Mortality in the US and 20 Comparison Countries, June 2021-March 2022. JAMA Network.
6 – Tu et al. (2023) SARS-CoV-2 Infection, Hospitalization, and Death in Vaccinated and Infected Individuals by Age Groups in Indiana, 2021‒2022. American Journal of Public Health.And some YouTube which you obviously rely on –
“ The owner of an asset of community value must inform the local authority if they wish to sell the asset. If a qualifying community group wants to buy the asset, they can trigger a moratorium for six months, to give them a chance to raise the money to purchase the asset. The owner does not have to sell to a community group. The asset of community value listing only improves the chances of community groups being able to purchase by providing more time to raise funds. It does not require the owner to sell at a discount.”
I would assume GP is no longer subject to an ACV.
Even worse situation than I thought then.
Look at how Swann engineered seperating the ground from the club, and getting us to this situation. Bit by bit, “the club is protected”, “99 year lease”, “blah blah blah” then relegation, winding up order, sale of sufc separately to Hilton.
The issue for Swann now is that GP has been registered as an asset of community value, it seems to me that means as long as that is the case it can only be sold as a sports stadium which pretty much limits the interested parties to sufc. Therefore he now needs to sell it to sufc or create a situation where the asset of community value doesn’t stand anymore or he can argue that it is no longer relevant.
What worries me is that he will get a court order to repossess GP, Hilton then fires up his contingency ground share and new ground plans (whether the new stadium is achievable or not is irrelevant). Swann then goes to court for removal of the asset of community value saying sufc haven’t bought the ground as offered to them, they are now ground sharing and planning to build a new stadium.1 user thanked author for this post.
I think where Swann is concerned it would be wise to look a couple of moves ahead rather than too much at what is happening immediately.
I don’t know, is it his job? They deal with facts and previous case law. Whether the judge likes football or their arthritis is playing up on the day won’t come into it. If there is some issue that Hilton doesn’t like I think the judge will say “don’t buy it then”.
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Have a read of Swanns statement again. He doesn’t mention the unregistered strip of land or the right of way at all yet these are the main basis in Hilton’s statements for not being able to complete on the deal to purchase GP.
Will a high court judge care one way or the other ?
Coolsilk own GP and Hilton hasn’t bought it as agreed, I think a judge will say buy it or leave it and probably won’t be too impressed with Hilton’s lease stunt.
I hope I’m wrong and we stay at GP but it doesn’t look good*.*(in my own totally unqualified opinion…..)
I think DH also says he doesn’t expect the trust would waive off the asset thing.
Anyone got the full article from the Nation league newspaper it doesn’t show it in full missing the bit about the ground being a community asset him not wanting it and the iron trust wavering their right to buy. Will try and buy one if not.
I’ve spoken to someone who has read the article and they explained it to me that DH says Swann hasn’t dealt with asset of community value side of things properly and a way to get around that would be for the trust to waive their claim to it being such an asset.
I could have understood him wrong with Chinese whispers etc but that’s how he read the wording and explained it to me.
Sorry in advance if that isn’t totally correct.1 user thanked author for this post.
He’s obviously onto the issue, to be fair it’s a minor one compared to dealing with Swann.
Why would anyone be throwing tennis balls onto the pitch ?Good point Sufc_not_on_tour, we are still deeply in the excrement.
I’m glad Patrick looked after Awaywego and MK and he’s obviously keen to extend hospitality at GP at some future game and clearly has authority from DH to make such kind gestures. With everything that has happened the 2 clubs and their respective fans should have a good relationship, and friendly links.
Whatever anyone may think about IB and his, or her, motives it is apparent that Patrick and one or two others would like to see the back of IB and that worries me as much as anything.2 users thanked author for this post.
Wins 0-3 and gets slagged, this site is a joke
Sod it, I’ll bite.
Where has he (Jimmy Dean I presume you mean ?) been “slagged” between the Ilkeston 3-0 win which was yesterday 15th July and now ?Article in this weeks The Non League Paper about this seasons Tamworth game.
Their manager Andy Peaks says“To get Scunthorpe, a fancied team who have just come down and with the history they’ve got, is a great game for the fans and the club to embrace,” said Peaks. “I’m sure we’ll get a really big crowd.
“They are fancied to go really well and their remit will be to go straight back up so as a game it’s a difficult one, but I can’t see any easy games in this league. There are a lot of good clubs.”
There’s also another article in it about the DH and Swann dispute.
When the ducks follow the catering trolley it is because bread rolls are being thrown into the canal.
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July 12, 2023 at 6:48 pm in reply to: https://caseboard.io/cases/4fba849c-6555-4b9a-8d07-b6bb74d0b054 #266453Reality is he won’t win, Coolsilk own GP, they are taking him to court to get legal possession of the ground.
AA, regarding your IPO stuff, I think that is only for residential properties.
Wouldn’t GP come under legislation for commercial leases ?I have to admit that I am at a loss with it all now.
If I understand the situation correctly, it is this :Swann has issued a statement on here saying he wants to sell GP to Hilton/White but can’t get him to buy it despite offering different options over payment.
Hilton/White has issued a statement on Facebook saying he wants to buy GP, and pay the proposed price, but Swann won’t sell it to him.
I don’t know, have I completely misunderstood the situation ?
What is an ordinary person who supports the club, supposed to make of it all ?4 users thanked author for this post.
Accounts no longer showing overdue on Companies House.
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Pat O’Cake, thanks, you make my point so eloquently.
I read it like Deerey, that the writer is suggesting Ironbru is toxic and blames the situation on the Facebook group for causing it.
This forum is not toxic, or I wouldn’t be on it.
If you are Swann, Hilton/White, Dean, or anyone who unconditionally supports them, then you probably don’t like some stuff that’s on here.
There are a few posters on here whose opinion I don’t agree with whatsoever, and for a start when I joined I wished there was an ignore button, but the fact there isn’t an ignore button is actually the best thing about Bru. I have to read everyone’s opinion, and actually consider it, I then choose to think “that is utter garbage” and ignore it or post a counter opinion.
It’s no different to standing on the terrace at a game, the guy next to me at the last home game hated Owen Foster, thought he was shite and was happy to tell me about it. I think Foster was good, with a lot of potential and I thought he’d get a move somewhere better and said so. “Maybe he will”, said the guy “but he won’t make it….”
We fundamentally disagreed but talked about it which is how football and football fans are and always will be.2 users thanked author for this post.
Preseason is pretty meaningless, after all we beat Sheffield Utd about a year ago.
The Brigg game ended early as well.Remember Ramon Calliste ? Signed by Laws from Liverpool, broke his ankle in a preseason game at Brigg and I’m pretty sure that basically ended his career.
It would be very risky for unregistered player to play.
Should be registered to play though by now, surely ?1 user thanked author for this post.
Is there a situation where he walks off with a fair bit of cash and unpaid bills?
I actually hope there is, and soon.
Unfortunately for Hilton/White all of his actions just underline any doubts that are there about him. If he was Dave the normal businessman he’d just be getting on with running his businesses including sufc. Instead there’s a pantomime of shite on firstly twitter, then Facebook and now he’s trying to infect this site which has proven to be the last and only place where some sort of sane discussion about events takes place.
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SUFC, with its new board of directors, needs to make contact with Coolsilk and agree a sensible, adult way forward to complete the purchase of GP.
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