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The docu maker got a after nomination for it too.The “lefty”y Bc should be ashamed for what they put these people through ,so should the “moderates”.Its shocking, Pravda would be embarrassed
Such a shame these poor souls were called out for their anti-Semitism, harassment of others. Poor victims.
Ah yes, a documentary on a channel with Holocaust denial, which includes a Holocaust denier and someone who has tried to connect Israel to paedophiles. That’s definitely going to woo me.
“Made up lies” lol. Still in denial.
Someone has taken a picture of Bucksiron mulling over his responses:
*This is meant to be a bit of tongue in cheek banter, not an attempt at bullying or insulting. We all have to laugh at ourselves. There’s plenty to laugh about me, after all.
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I’d love to know where the insults are in this thread. IA calling Truss St Liz, me sarcastically calling Lilico and Hannan geniuses?
That’s tame and the sort of thing most engage in. Maybe I should be woke and politically correct in future and not gently tease anyone who I think have made daft arguments. There are hardly death threats, grievous insults (like c**t) being used. I have seen Bucks language of a similar kind before, but it’s ok when he does it.
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September 28, 2022 at 5:43 pm in reply to: The Tory, Oops, I mean Labour Conference is Going Well #245709‘But the plain truth is that this would be a Labour government I could live with, nationalisation or otherwise. I might even be in favour of some of that. Sorry to disappoint you.’
Okay, couple of points of order:
‘I might even be in favour of some of that. Sorry to disappoint you.”
Wrong end of the stick again. Frankly I wouldn’t give a damn whether you’d be on board or not. But hey! The more the merrier. I merely pointed out re-nationalisation as an example of how your ‘Tories in disguise’ claim is so wide off the mark. That’s before we even get on to realistic plans for the NHS and the inevitable income boost to local authorities, particularly those red wall ones your Party has starved and shat on, and other traditional Labour seats.
‘A Labour government I could live with’. So you’re suggesting if it didn’t meet your approval, you’d do what exactly? Leave the country? Is it the tried and tested ‘my way or the highway’ approach again?
Misrepresenting everyone’s points to suit his agenda seems to be his aim.
On the other thread, me saying net zero didn’t cause the specific downturn in the pound, and the immediate consequences of that, is me arguing about the effect of policies on the energy prices to begin with!
Debate with Bucks is literally impossible.
“Actually, I didn’t say that anyone had insulted me,”
Literally the post before on this thread by you:
“No constructive argument, just insults.”
Also, doing nothing wouldn’t have caused a crash which has jeopardised mortgages and pensions. Not only that, made fuel costs worse. Other countries somehow managed not to short their currency and damage the economy with actions to mitigate the cost of living crisis.
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Whoosh. I can’t be arsed engaging with any debate if you miss the point entirely.
And, no, that is not an insult. I am not beholden to hold your opinion in great esteem, just as you aren’t with others, as you often have shown.
I have not insulted you. I have criticised your argument. Bore off with your martyr complex.
Net zero is not why the pound crashed. The point is that this has been caused by Kwarteng’s and Truss’s non-budget. The rising dollar shows that it’s not a global phenomena. You may be ok with mortgages becoming unaffordable and pension funds crashing, but the poorer aren’t.
You fumbling around just makes me trust your economic opinion less.
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September 28, 2022 at 3:09 pm in reply to: The Tory, Oops, I mean Labour Conference is Going Well #245692I don’t think Starmer thinks it’s in the bag. A lot has been said over the last few days of avoiding complacency, but please forgive Labour supporters for being happy. We’re allowed to have some optimism. Gurny doesn’t represent the Labour party.
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Well, that BoE stabilisation went well. Pension funds are getting hammered and losing funds. Someone tell reality that it’s over-reacting*.
*And if not, it’s because of Starmer or woke IMF or the deep state remainers or the pound sterling is a communist!
Kwarteng had no choice to step in and come up with the bonkers plan he did, which achieves nothing and will (in all likelihood) achieve nothing? Even many Tories are aghast, because they know how daft it is.
Energy costs are rising. Yet other nations didn’t crash the pound with their plans. Oh, wait, that’s someone else’s fault. It always is.
Meanwhile, we’re left with the fantasy that cutting tax burdens for the rich will help those who really need it. If I wanted to write a budget which would lose support for the Tories, I couldn’t have done a better job.
You can make all the excuses you want, the fact is that your ideologues are in charge and all you have are excuses. As big a wrecker of the economy as Corbyn with theirs and your fantasy ideologies.
It’s all because of net zero, yet the dollar is rising (and was the excuse for the slump). Yet, somehow, this ultimate cause of our predicament isn’t having much of an effect in the USA.
The Conservatives: The party of zero personal responsibility.
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Don’t worry everyone. These geniuses have identified the true cause of the pound crash:
I still think the market reaction was mainly to what the mini-Budget said about the BoE decision, but I've thought of a potential secondary factor. The market may have felt that the mini-Budget implied a Labour victory in 2024/25 is more likely than they had previously thought.+
— Andrew Lilico (@andrew_lilico) September 26, 2022
From @DanielJHannan: No, the pound isn’t crashing over a trifling batch of tax cuts. It’s because the markets are terrified of @Keir_Starmer. https://t.co/l06p3fdwkE
— ConservativeHome (@ConHome) September 28, 2022
That’s right, the market reacted so briskly to the possibility of a Labour government coming in when we don’t have knowledge of the outcome or even the date of the election. We can’t predict the financial outcomes of Brexit, but we can definitely state the financial impacts of election outcomes for times unspecified.
Their lack of personal responsibility is becoming impossible to satirise.
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I am not having it that Shrewsbury, Birmingham or Hereford are northern! :-)
September 27, 2022 at 10:58 pm in reply to: The Tory, Oops, I mean Labour Conference is Going Well #245662God. Don’t you start with the claims that anything not Corbyn Labour is actually Tory. There is nothing Tory about singing the anthem and not being performatively socialist. It’s been that way since Attlee and before. It’s bad enough when Owen Jones and co groan on about it.
To be fair, pretty much anyone could have beaten Corbyn and I thought that Boris hadn’t achieved Brexit, given that the narrative from some is that we need to ensure it’s done after predictably reneging on triumphs of what a fantastic deal it was.
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Wasn’t Spire a Torquay fan before Scunny?
Well, it’s a good job Scunny is further north than mouth of the Humber, eh? ;-)
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Yes. Boris Johnson, Priti Patel, Michael Gove, Steve Baker, Jacob Rees-Mogg etc. Those well known campaigners for remain.
Southgate insists on playing Maguire when it’s clear he’s out of form and confidence shot. It’s mad.
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Now I will have to call you JustLes as penance! :-)
All this talk of triggering and cancelling because some air dislike for something is tedious.
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Rees-Mogg?
Many Tory backbenchers didn’t seem happy with the plan yesterday. No doubt they’re all part of the neo-Marxists BPG keeps warning us about. It’s handy when anyone who disagrees with you isn’t someone behaving in good faith, but an evil conspirator.
That didn’t seem to be your point; you specifically said it was the BBC’s headline, and was akin to the Guardian’s. Hence you weren’t saying they were wrong to highlight another headline, you thought it was their own.
No, they were quoting a media source to highlight a media reaction. They have done the same with right wing rags in the past. The fact you think the BBC would prefer the Morning Star shows how deluded you are on this.
I am not sure about that. He is an authoritarian conservative, but I am not quite sure he’d be a fascist. It would go against his sensibilities as some archaic idyll of what a gentlemen should be.
It doesn’t look good going into the World Cup, but can’t see the FA doing anything beforehand. There would be too much outrage after him getting us further than other coaches have. If we don’t do well, hopefully that will allow some critical analysis of his position. He’s a great man manager, but is tactically poor, as is evident when he has faced sides of equal or better quality.
I note you don’t mention that the BBC used quotation marks, because they were quoting the Guardian, not because it was their own choice of headline. It was in a page talking about media reaction. Fuss over nothing from someone who want to demonise anything which isn’t remotely right wing, as is evident with your comments against anything which doesn’t see this as being some great news for the economy.
Meanwhile, the pound plummets and adherents have nothing to back up their opinions. Just that anyone criticising must be some evil lefty. Such is the vacuum of their argument.
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Don’t tempt those who will say that the true poor wouldn’t be drinking whisky at all if times were tough, while they casually sip on their champagne.
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