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How long before Michelle decides the constant criticism is enough, sells up
That was the argument about not criticising Hilton when he was fleecing the club and some used that as an excuse as to why he left and stopped paying staff. Yet some of the same people are happy to go into criticism of Michelle, which they would have said was “driving the saviour, Dave, away” over a year ago.
Criticism of Michelle is allowed, but it does highlight the absurdity of that argument with Hilton (and Swann, for that matter).
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Maybe we were suffering from the off field turmoil of hiring a CEO and giving an unproven manager an extended contract.
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I think the posts deleted had less to do with ‘wrong opinions’ and more to do with perceived insulting posts with language seen as beyond the limit, even if some of it was because of innocent mishaps. For example, IFA used a word that is insulting, probably through predictive text since it was out of place, and it got deleted as a result.
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Bloody hell 2 posts Siderite and you think I suggest he plays an injured Whitehall, Really.
Fair enough. I had missed your referral to the previous post and sarcastic nature of it.
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“Butler”! You bloody Muppet where was Whitehall?
Butler was to blame for many things, but not for not playing an injured player.
I do agree that Carlton was poor and we missed Whitehall. Also, even if he was having a poor game, subbing for a defensive midfielder was odd.
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I have tried to be positive and to put things into perspective, but that wasn’t good enough. Not by a long shot. Slow tempo, overly cautious, poor passing. Even if Radcliffe came to frustrate, it’s not an excuse.
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I did see you also say that it’s “only charged with domestic abuse” as if pushing pregnant girlfriends off the beds, humilating them and controlling them in what would be an abusive environment that leaves them mentally distraught is akin to kids playing knock-a-door-run on Mischievous night.
He has not been found guilty, but the allegations are serious and there is no reason to just disbelieve them, so I would not want someone with those allegations hanging over their heads at the club at all.
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I think that would be fair if we were not around top of the table. Criticism is fine, but some of it has been completely OTT. Yes, recent form has not been great, and the performances haven’t been good enough for a stretch, but you’re speaking as if we haven’t been consistently around the top for the season to date. If we fall away there will be (deserved) criticism, but some of it right now seems completely out of proportion.
We should be doing well with our squad, but it’s not going to be a stroll, even with a good squad. Last year should have been a lesson in that. Also, Butler is still an inexperienced manager, so will make mistakes, but it doesn’t mean he’s incapable of learning. He has his own philosophy, and seems willing to stick to it, but the last few games has seen a greater use of its strengths that were limiting us. Beestin is now being used mostly in midfield, and seems better for it. We can have concerns and criticisms, but we should maintain some grounding, in my opinion, and support Butler and the team first and foremost. It’s early days, it might falter, but some of the comments have been doom and gloom as if we’re about to be relegated.
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To be fair, this is the third game now where we have had a more attacking outlook and decent spells, with today being the best. Granted, Rushall and Farsley are weaker sides at this level and we did lose at Southport, but that was more down to lapses in concentration, which went beyond Butler’s control
Maybe this has shown that Butler does have the capacity to change things. One thing I have been impressed with is seeing the full backs make more forward runs, which was hindering us before, and is a part as to why we’re having more success up front. Maybe it will be a false dawn and Butler won’t succeed, but I don’t think anyone really knows that.
One thing’s for sure, for me, is that a month’s blip shouldn’t mean losing all hope and making certain judgments on the capability of the manager or his ability to change things after a bad spell.
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Farsley should have done some more homework, since it should have been easy to figure us out and Butler has little to no chance of turning it round. It shouldn’t take much to outwit a ‘simpleton’, after all.
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Fair, though if they cause too much friction there may have to be some early changes, and there was a reason I said ‘generally’.
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Definitely not. When you have the happy clapper Deerey and the like defending wanting to take a Ceo on then in the next breath tell us we can’t afford some more additions.
I thought everyone was in agreement that we had to many non playing staff on the books under Swann and the club needed sliming down, Hilton started the process but Michelle is turning it back into a job centre for all.
Be a right shit forum if we’re all on the same page. Who the f wants unity.Oh no, Michelle wants us running like a professional outfit and not Dave’s car crash. The outrage.
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Not enough stadium shenanigans, abusive social media accounts with doxxing and death threats, CCJs, unpaid wages, groundshares with Gainsborough, decrepit Glanford Park photos, children of owners as chief scout, refusing to pay staff because journalists uncovered information about owners, drug dealers as the unofficial club spokesman, claiming squatters’ rights, audio statements that get pulled after a day or moments of panic with the club going under. Sort it out, Michelle!
Mr Butterfield’s wife makes allegations, which are definitely 100% true.
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