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Age isn’t an excuse for racism, so that shouldn’t even come into it.
There’s a difference between being asked where you come from and being continuously asked where you really come from time and time again after being told Britain, assuming the account was true. Black Brits are as British as everyone else on this board. It may be that the intent was good, but I am not going to jump to assumptions because it ‘must be’ because old people are inherently like that. That comes across as benevolently ageist to me.
Also, blaming black people for inviting racism on themselves is very low. No matter of whatever the full story is here, it does not excuse racism and anyone using this to seize upon this would do so anyway. This is just an excuse to use to hide their intent.
Time will tell about the context and situation, hopefully, but being 83 doesn’t give any excuse if it is a poor context. That said, I am all for forgiveness and in this social media dominated world it’s just going to be another polarised issue between the apologists and those baying for blood. An apology would suffice, in my opinion, and then we can move on. However, that won’t be the case. It will be one side using it to tear into the Royals as a whole and the apologists who will want to make out that she couldn’t have possibly been racist, even if the actual wrong is relatively small.
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Was it the manager who coached us when we scored 400 goals in 10 seasons, with us getting the ball into the box at every opportunity? I can’t quite place the name. :-)
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If you believe you’ve sold your house and then the buyer pulls out, wouldn’t you go with the second best offer?
Particularly if you’d already decided to move away from the area.
Second best offer for him, maybe. On paper, from the little we suspect or do know, it didn’t seem that for the club’s longevity or for us fans. I guess I am annoyed because fans’ priorities differ from the owner’s and how close we have come to administration because of the delays. It might have made sense for him if the London consortium had more money, but it might not for us if they didn’t have our best interests in mind.
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We don’t know everything, but I don’t think faffing around with some property developer for ages because he wouldn’t sell to a local consortium is the sign of someone who was acting just in the interests of the club. I think we can have some assumptions as to why it took so long for him to prioritise Elliott and Sharp.
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I would say that we should be aiming higher than Poland. We have a better squad.
Also, while Kane hasn’t scored, he has created and played quite well I think in coming back and dragging the ball forward. However, I realise the frustration of a non-scoring striker.
I don’t think Southgate is a bad manager for us. He’s probably been the best for decades. He deserves plaudits. I get bored of the binary nature of this. Either Southgate’s useless or he’s beyond criticism. I have concerns and I won’t be too happy if we struggle against stronger teams than Iran and Wales because of his flaws.
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Sidey, Ray Clemence is sadly no longer with us.
Thanks JI and NI. I completely forgot that he had passed away. I am expecting too much if his ghost to communicate! :-)
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With the things the way they are it’s a shame there’s little media attention. Maybe some famous ex-players/coaches could drum up some attention. Ian Botham won’t, with his club links, but what about Keegan and Clemence? Even some of our more recent stars like Billy Sharp and Nigel Adkins, maybe?
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One of the things Southgate gets deserved plaudits is uniting the team. The ‘golden generation’ had too many uncontrolled egos and no coach with the strength of character to get them in check. This left them playing as individuals and the lack of team ethic cost us when we came across sides of quality.
I don’t think it’s all down to Gareth, I think the last decade or so of not feeding the egos of our players, not telling them they’re the best in the world like we did with Gerrard, Beckham and Lampard, has helped lead to a greater team spirit too. However, I don’t think it’s just that. We still played like a bunch of ill fitting donkeys long after the ‘golden generation’ retired. Kyle Walker said that one of the first things Southgate did was to get the players together and make everyone feel welcome, getting them to bond as a team a lot better, without the cliques. Lampard did say that during his time this wasn’t done and everyone seemed to keep to their club and not converse with those from others, plus he wanted to one-up Gerrard. This was the mentality within England. I think Southgate has removed this mentality and deserves plaudits for how he has united the squad.
My question is how he handles big games strategically, and picking of favourites. He might say it’s loyalty, but there aren’t any excuses for leaving Foden or Rashford on the bench now so Sterling can put in another lacklustre performance.
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Ok, fair. I take back my comments about them being dressed as such and apologise to Bucks. Though, I do think their attire is commonly interpreted as such and this is obviously where the controversy lies.
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