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Anonymous wrote:

I hope to see experienced signings –

1 GK
2 CB
2 CM
2 CF

That would give a squad of 25 with 3 of those under contract to leave if possible.

I am sure Wonder Goals will be along with his annual scouting report for players to sign shortly. :-)

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Some might say the circus would be a better training camp for some of them. :-)

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ironking

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Well, their club have denied it, saying they want a clarification and discussion of rules for going forward. :-)

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Awaywego

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Well, their chairman has denied they’re making a complaint and are wanting to clarify the rules. I think they threw a paddy, realised they have no leg to stand on and have tried to save face. Bunch of sore losers. :-)

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BobbyGmeister

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Ferrite wrote:

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I believe Taft and Millen are injured. Also, if they refuse to have their contracts torn up, in a way KDT did, we haven’t got much choice. :-)

Why should he agree to have his contract torn up? No one forced him to sign it, he’s entitled to his income if he’s not in breach of his contract.

Where did I say he should have agreed to have the contract torn up? :-) It’s not his fault the club offered him a long contract. Contracts shouldn’t be able to be torn up like that without a care.

It may be that some of these players are deemed not good enough or possessing attitude problems, so Hill doesn’t play them, but we can’t do anything about the contracts.

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I believe Taft and Millen are injured. Also, if they refuse to have their contracts torn up, in a way KDT did, we haven’t got much choice. :-)

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lesgeo

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We have had players with rotten attitudes prior to Hill too. We have had them for a few years now. Even during better times there would be fallings out over contracts. I wonder who is responsible for this and bringing in these toxic players.

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North Lincolnshire Irons, BobbyGmeister

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The fans.

UTI99 on my login. :-)

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Ferrite, MK Iron, Deereyme66

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I eagerly await the stern condemnation of Rovers fans by Radio Humberside. :-)

They’re surely not pious hypocrites?

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I have sympathy with the Cobblers, but they are still a stable club with a hope of promotion. I am more worried about our future. If we use youth we will be destroyed again next season.

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If I am wrong I don’t care, I am just giving my opinion on Watson, as we all do. :-)

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Awaywego

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Watch him flourish once he leaves our cesspit, I tells ye!

To be honest, I doubt it. People were saying similar about Slocombe after he left, who is and was a better goalkeeper, and he has not consistently held a spot for any league club since.

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He’s improved, but I am not sure if he’s good enough for league two really, never mind league one. :-)

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It’s ok, BPG says he hasn’t heard any racism at all in football, so this can’t have happened. :-)

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Then direct your criticism at Bartoniron who made the accusation in the first place! ;-)

My only point was related to f row crew saying that such fans were just displaying passion in response to a racism claim, while not wanting to dismiss it or validate it as a verifiable fact. My point being that if they were racist, without making any claims to the validity, that wouldn’t be a good response to it since racists should be dealt with.

I don’t want to make any accusations against BI or f row crew. I am sure f row crew didn’t mean racists should be ignored, he might have thought it not worth mentioning because he knew racism wasn’t a factor yesterday. Likewise, BI may have misheard something or may have picked up on something others missed. I don’t know. I don’t want to make any kind of firm accusation against them.

I just felt a bit singled out, because I wasn’t the one making the accusations of racism. Like I say, my point was solely to do with the hypothetical, because too many claims or not, racism has no place in football.

Some of the activists may make spurious claims, but it exists as an undercurrent for some. On the other hand, what isn’t acknowledged a lot, is that we are one of the better nations for dealing with it and for racial attitudes. :-) However, this doesn’t mean we should be complacent.

Anyway, I apologise for reacting angrily and being mean. I just didn’t like what I felt were unfair accusations. :-) No hard feelings, eh? :-)

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Just Iron

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What are you on about?

BI claimed racism and said such fans aren’t welcome.

f row crew said such fans were just displaying passion with no rebuttal of the racism point.

I said that passion is welcome, but if (!!!) there was racism it doesn’t excuse it.

You then waded in to virtue signal and make undue accusations against my intentions. ;-)

It’s not my fault you’re too thick to understand my point. ;-)

If you had the remotest grasp of what I’d argued you wouldn’t be claiming I was being virtuous in the first place, since I was not making any firm accusation against Iron fans for any racism. But, hey ho, continue virtue signalling about how much more balanced you are and not willing to throw racist accusations around and how I am protesting too much. It just shows that you don’t understand what I am on about. :-)

The only reason I am acting like this is because I am fed up of simpletons on the internet failing to understand points and then acting superior. :-)

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The only thing I consider myself guilty of is making rash clangers like this:

“There was no definitive claims made by myself ”

Were! X-D

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For the record, the comments made here and elsewhere have made it clear that racism was a very unlikely factor in this incident.

I only commented in response to f row crew’s comment about passion, with no rebuttal of BI’s claim about racism being involved. It should be expected with the internet, I guess, but it still staggers me how some people seem to deliberately miss the point for their own signalling of virtue for how superior they are to others they are interacting with. The point I was making should have been obvious; that passion doesn’t excuse more unsavoury accusations made by BI, assuming that they were true (remember, I had no way of verifying what BI had said). There was no definitive claims made by myself (hence the if), precisely because there was no evidence of racism. However, it would be rash of me to discount it until the story became more clear.

If you want to accuse someone of virtue signalling, JI, I say take a look at yourself in the mirror, for it is you who has tried to take the high ground over others based on behaviour and opinions, not myself, who has not accused fans or anyone of anything (the if was carrying a lot of weight in my original comment). ;-)

Maybe in future I should form definitive opinions based on nothing to prove the ‘balanced’ individuals like JI! :-)

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There was a reason I used the word if (which is clearly defined by the dictionary), following on from BI’s comment, JI. Perhaps you should learn to read before piously browbeating others for something they didn’t say. Just a suggestion. ;-)

I stated I wasn’t there precisely because I didn’t want to cast unfair aspersions on fans; I was merely commenting on an accusation made by someone else. But, hey ho, it’s easier to virtue signal about how more fair you are than others to make yourself look like some balanced individual, superior to others, than to actually take comments as they were intended, isn’t it JustSnowflake. :-

Maybe I should include emojis or bold if commenrs in future, if the intellectual heft of this forum is that some don’t know that by saying if I am not stating that there was any racism displayed. :-)

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I wasn’t there, so can’t comment. I was just responding to what BartonIron had suggested. :-)

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Displaying passion is welcome. However, if some of them were racist to Nuttall, then those fans don’t deserve any backing.

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There’s no point protesting, because the club are definitely selling up. Ask UTI99! :-)

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Quite simple…support the “team of youngsters” whilst they play and protest at the end. I suggest a minutes “sarcastic” applause?

That won’t bring any attention from the media. If there is to be a protest it would need to get media attention, otherwise it’s as pointless as doing nothing.

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North Lincolnshire Irons, Awaywego

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The boxing promoter? He’s still alive. His dad, with the same name, died a few years ago.

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It’s OK organising a protest on the pitch but the person we would be protesting against will not be there as Swann is aware he is very disliked

I believe the Oldham owner wasn’t at their game at the weekend. I believe a benefit of it would be to bring the plight to a media spotlight, so it wouldn’t matter if the owner is there or not for this.

That said, I am wary of risking the club facing consequences from the authorities and it isn’t a guaranteed success in its mission to put pressure on Swann. We have a supposed consortium interested and I am not sure if this action would help that along in any way. If Swann was not yet selling this argument of putting pressure on would have more weight.

That said, Swann is not trustworthy, as past promises have not come to fruition, and we know next to nothing about the supposed takeover, so I can’t blame fans for getting impatient on this.

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Sharp_Shooter24

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Is that there centre circle sit in v Hartlepool still being mooted on social media? :-)

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There has been a tendency from some to have dewy eyes towards our youth as saviours when the more experienced underachieve. I think the recent games show exactly why we shouldn’t rely primarily on youth as our saviours. Sure, bed them in, but they need to be managed carefully.

Throwing them in at the deep end like this is never going to work and will only damage their morale.

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Such mismanagement was also a key indicator that the Swanns had flaws in ownership. It wasn’t the reason for our collapse, but shoddy handling of more minor affairs is unprofessional and creates the impression that the higher ups are incompetent.

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We have Iron fans far and wide! :-)

What drew you to Scunthorpe, out of interest, smartm?

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Just Iron, Deereyme66

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Announcing it like this is only going to alert the club to their potential actions anyway, which surely kills any point of it, as it will be snuffed out with aware stewards and police. Not well thought through to advertise it so publicly if this is what their plan is.

*Note. This is not me condoning, I disagree with it, it’s just a comment on it being so poorly thought out.

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