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That might sound plausible if the video was made by a right wing source, but it isn’t. It’s from the horses’ mouth being shared by someone with a bias. The bias doesn’t erase the nature of the video or of Hamas or of comments by Sinwar which show Hamas for what they are and how they are a huge part of the problem. As for propaganda, it’s easy for you to point and finger wag, but you’re saying I should ignore what the actual people involved say and focus on the actual propaganda that sanitises them. So, maybe a mirror might help when it comes to thinking about ‘being had’. The actions and words of Hamas show them for what they are. It’s not World Net Daily making Sinwar say they want more Oct 7ths.
For some reason you seem opposed to the idea that Hamas are bad. Maybe it’s because it means Israel have some sympathy, but it doesn’t remove the issues from them. IronAge shared something which is of grave concern regarding evacuation plans that obviously haven’t removed civilians, but that doesn’t remove the issues of one side of the war.
So the Greens would support burying cables, which is more expensive and destructive to natural habitat with the digging and emplacing operations? The latter would be a big issue for them. Pylons are probably the least destructive option, except for doing nothing and relying on fossil fuels.
Why miss out that Lammy met with Palestinian leaders too?
I thought the argument for Saint Jeremy meeting the IRA was that he was convincing them to commit to peace. Yet when the foreign secretary does it, and meets with Palestinians (plus with reiterating ceasefire calls), it’s apparently becoming friends with Netanyahu. The job is to meet with leaders for a foreign secretary, including rotten ones. He’s not some backbencher on a jolly.
Also, you assume too much. I look at various opinions on Gaza from BBC to across board. Some of it is of course from the western right, but some of it from elsewhere. Yet apparently videos from the horses’ mouth can be disregarded because they’re from the ‘wrong people’ (yet stuff from Hamas can’t be discounted, they must be trustworthy).
As for some of my favoured accounts, this includes these Palestinians:
https://x.com/HowidyHamza
https://x.com/afalkhatib
https://x.com/aziz0nomicsSo, no, I don’t think I am going down some right wing route because I don’t pretend that Hamas are a huge part of the problem* and are a religious extremist group with Nazi like views and needs opposing. One of the accounts I have shared was a victim of Hamas imprisonment and shares their acts against Palestinians. None of this means that I think the IDF or Israel are without issues, but if you are going to jump on me for calling out Hamas rhetoric and make that out to be like a Christian fundamentalist following WND, well I will push back. It isn’t, and both the Christian right of the USA and Islamism can be opposed. Opposing the latter doesn’t make you like a right wing Christian, given it is calling out religious zealotry in itself.
*I am not defending the settlers in the West Bank who cause issues with Palestinians or Israelis who attack Palestinians in the street, as some videos have shown. They are part of the problem too.
So it coming from twitter makes the video irrelevant then? The nature of the source doesn’t alter the stuff coming from their mouths at all. You sound like the MAGA people whenever they moan about sources when it’s info they don’t like.
The matter is that Hamas are an Islamist group, stuff like this is what they keep saying and has been echoed by Sinwar et al for months. They keep saying stuff like they love death more than life (echoed here), that they want more Oct 7ths, that they think the war is going well because Palestinians dying gives them sympathy. Salman Rushdie is right when Hamas controlled Gaza wouldn’t be dissimilar to Taliban Afghanistan. Yet calling this stuff out makes me like some Christian fundie apparently. Opposing Islamist nonsense is totally unprogressive, calling for women to be treated secondary, Jews and Christians converted or killed and gay people to be illegalised or killed is totally progressive though. That’s their idyllic world.
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I doubt that, given the increased size of the tournaments. We were qualifying before, mostly, and England were bailed out by moments of player magic this time round.
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Lampard? Please no.
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I have looked into the utility fees and there’s nothing communist about imposing flat fees, nor is allowing communist affiliations to not rule out public sector roles. This has happened across many capitalist nations and doesn’t make them ‘communistic’. None of this is me saying whether these are right or wrong.
I have made no comment on Newsom’s ability, only that he isn’t ‘communistic’.
I do, I have read a lot about it, but it isn’t being replicated by a state of the USA which runs on a capitalist economy.
With the rise of true crime podcasts and youtubers it’s made people interested think they can spout their theories over active cases of murder or missing persons as if they are experts, where they link it to murder based on tin foil hattery.
This video goes into it better than I could:
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People leaving California does not mean the state is remotely ‘communistic’. I am making no defence of Newsom, just that this framing is a load of nonsense. Wake me up when the state brings in GULAGs, collectivised farms and cultural revolutions or anything like that. Or make a proper definition of ‘communistic’ that could fit anything you dislike
Or like that vague term you made up which can mean whatever you want it to mean.
So not many then, since California hasn’t turned into a communist state.
So no urging of the ‘second amendment people’ to get his Democrat opponent this time then or calls to reject election results if he loses then? I guess it might be too much to ask as time goes on.
While there are issues with ‘globalism’ I am not convinced it’s this damning bugbear. Rather him than the controlling anti-globalists, be it De Santis in Florida, Trump or abroad with Orban and his state that has decayed and declined in democratic freedom. I spoke with a Hungarian not so long ago and it’s quite sad how the young are now leaving to escape Hungary, with a ‘brain drain’ occurring.
Spain this year and Italy in 2021, to some degree, played attacking football, yet we suffer with ‘pragmatism’ and it has nullified our strengths in attack. Along with a first team imbalance, unwillingness to make subs, and some underperformance in some areas. It’s a 3rd semi final in 4 major tournaments and 2nd successive Euro final, so we have players capable of getting far, but now we need that little push to maximise potential.
I have no idea if that’s viable. However, the issues here are why I said it’s war on terror style errors.
However, none of this horror would have happened if it wasn’t for Hamas launching a stupid and disgusting act of war. The reaction is reminiscent to the Iraq War and there are many issues, of course. Though, without Oct 7th this would not have happened and no actions of Israel justifies or explains it enough.
The only way forward is for Israelis to dispense of Netanyahu and the Ben-Gvir crowd of headbangers and Palestinians to get rid of Hamas. Otherwise this will continue. A peace deal for Hamas just means restocked weapons for more war. Last week members released a video saying all Christians and Jews will have to convert to Islam or die. That is who they are and always will be. At least the Likudists can be voted out and many Israelis are not happy, and I agree with them.
I am not spinning. My comment is not an endorsement of this act and I have been dismayed at this happening. It’s the same mistakes as the war on terror. Having to go back into what was supposed to be cleared areas is embarrassing for Israel and pitiful given past proclamations. However, it doesn’t change that war is being brought into civilian areas by Hamas hiding among civilians, which amplifies casualties. There is blame to share.
There’s a question as to why Hamas like hiding around designated safe zones, hospitals and such, bring war to civilians who are human shields to them. There’s of course a valid question as to whether the civilian casualties should be deemed too much for an operation, though the latter gets asked more than the former. Yet it’s that tactic which is a big part of the issue and such is a war crime.
Didn’t see the offending post, but I don’t think it’s time for such jokes or jabs, no matter who the victim is. We should be bigger men than Trump, like when he mocked Paul Pelosi in a hammer attack.
Eeyore414 will be along to grumble soon.
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Bit harsh on the Dutch Sidy.
I meant that last part with respect to England, sarcastically.
Not a bad half from overhyped players who always struggle against their underrated foreign counterparts and aren’t as good as Georgia.
Methinks Warrington is better positioned geographically than we are to have “local” derbies!
Also the league use the Christmas and Easter fixtures for ‘derby games’. Well, the most optimal geographically near teams for the league. Unfortunately, for us that means Kings Lynn and Peterborough Sports.
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July 9, 2024 at 11:53 am in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #287771Snubbing Kamala Harris in this hypothetical would cause a massive headache with anger, justified or not.
Personally, I feel it’s late for changing candidates now and don’t think it will happen.
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