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Sanfran49 wrote:

So that was why David ‘whoever he was’ just had to – Go Now.

Go, Go – WHAM

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As the top scorer in the NLN, what’s he worth?
I wonder if anyone has had a look at him and thought – yeah, why not?

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Sanfran49 wrote:

As we are for now as stability is far more important.

If we had a feeder team I would look for it to be an U19 format, more like a reserve team where we can see trialists on a regular basis.

Agreed, as they are nearer to being a ‘useable product’
It’s ok having a team of ‘outstanding’ 8 year olds… but they are probably, at best, TWELVE years off of becoming a first team regular.
The number of ‘outstanding’ nursery players whom don’t grow or develop or whom become ‘immobile’ or non-athletic and drop out is very, very high.
A ‘second team’ also allows you to keep those not regularly starting for the first team match fit / sharp and where the players returning from injuries can play.
Stability & consolidation are the key words for the next few years.

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Academies aren’t needed at lower league clubs.
The ongoing increasing percentage of foreigners in the game sees more youngsters being released from the U18s & U21s of the big boys.
These released players then filter down through the leagues.
The importation of foreign players has lowered the playing ceiling for must English youngsters and players.
The only two Academy players near the first team squad are bit ‘part’ players – Wilson & Shrimpton. Neither are first name on the team sheet and are more squad players than regulars.
Thirty years ago, they’d have probably made good Conference players (?) – in today’s market, they are struggling to play regular NLN football.
The situation is the same at the vast majority of lower league clubs.

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Awaywego wrote:

Let’s get the academy back up and running we might discover the next Messi, would be a huge benefit and could probably increase the playing budget.

No.
Let’s get in to the National League.
Let’s consolidate in the NL.
Let’s become a club operating within its income.
Let’s get the club infrastructure and staffing in place.
Then, let’s make a within budget attempt at promotion to the EFL.
Once in the EFL, then we can re-open an Academy – and receive the funding.

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My time came & went with kids 30 years ago – grandkids are now quite proficient in elite boxing and elite rugby.

If the youngest grandkids want to play football then they can play with their mates in local leagues; 20 minutes max to an away game, afternoon in Cleggy for fish & chips and amusements with team mates.

If they were any good then the big boys would still want them.
Also, if you start at the bottom, there’s nowhere to “fall” to.

By this, I mean if you are good enough for a Man Utd, a Newcastle, a Liverpool – there are plenty of other branches (clubs) to hit on the way down.

Start at a Grimsby, a Donny or a Morecambe etc and you hit the ground when released.

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The “Thanks Premier League Thread”

Is there any point of lower league (L1 & below) clubs operating academies?

Thanks Premier league

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Northumbiron wrote:

“As parents, you’ll waste a small fortune ferrying little Johnny here, there and everywhere.”

#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#>#%#%

So what!

Perhaps they enjoy it and get something out of it apart from money. You know, like physical fitness, friendships and performing as part of a team.

Would you want your 8 / 9 year old son travelling for up to 2 hours to a game where they may only actually play for 30 minutes?
Then, a 2 hour return trip.

Travelling for 8 times longer than they are playing.
Makes no sense!

If they really want to play football, then let them play in the local leagues – far less pressure and lots more fun.

The title of the thread is: “Project Footballer” – I made my comments relating to the ‘success’ rate of players coming through the Academies.

You are much more likely to experience success at:
Project Darts
Project Snooker
Project Tennis
Project Athletics
Project Boxing
etc
I’m sure the lads would make friends and develop social skills etc. Most of those events will keep them fit too.

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This year Ferrari decided to retain their four tyre changer pitmen for their F1 races.
They’d obviously concluded that they needed four!

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Rene Artois wrote:

I watched 12 minutes of it.

17.2% of players in National League North aren’t English.

They come from 35 different countries.

23.5% of players in the National League aren’t English.
They come from 53 different countries.

L2 = 30.2% none English.

L1 = 38.6% none English.

Championship = 51.2% none English.

Premier = 68.4% none English.

Don’t waste your time, money or effort with football.

If you want them to become a sport man concentrate on the solo events where they don’t have to rely on team mates.

Darts, Snooker, Golf, Tennis, Athletics, Cycling, Boxing, Swimming etc

They’d probably have the longest careers playing golf.

As parents, you’ll waste a small fortune ferrying little Johnny here, there and everywhere.

The odds on your lad being a Beckham are probably 0.000001% (1 in a million)
Of being a Messi or Ronaldo probably 0.0000001%

The percentage of English players in the game will continue to decline.

First post didn’t contain enough zeroes!

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I watched 12 minutes of it.

17.2% of players in National League North aren’t English.

They come from 35 different countries.

23.5% of players in the National League aren’t English.
They come from 53 different countries.

L2 = 30.2% none English.

L1 = 38.6% none English.

Championship = 51.2% none English.

Premier = 68.4% none English.

Don’t waste your time, money or effort with football.

If you want them to become a sport man concentrate on the solo events where they don’t have to rely on team mates.

Darts, Snooker, Golf, Tennis, Athletics, Cycling, Boxing, Swimming etc

They’d probably have the longest careers playing golf.

As parents, you’ll waste a small fortune ferrying little Johnny here, there and everywhere… with maybe a 0.1% chance that he’ll have a career out of the game.

The odds on your lad being a Beckham are probably 0.001% – of being a Messi or Ronaldo probably 0.0001%

The percentage of English players in the game will continue to decline.

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I’m sticking with my Scunthorpe 3-0 Boston but I think the crowd will be bigger.
I think the attendance will be more 4,775

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sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

Question.
Is any true Scunthorpe United supporter prepared to publicly state they support the blatant pathetic cheating by Whitehall?

He needs to stand up, be counted and play the game like a real man!

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I preferred the game when it was played by men who wanted to prove that they were big, strong, fit, fast individuals whom wanted to out fight / strength / will / speed their opponent and stay stood upright on their feet whenever possible to impose themselves on their opponent.

There was a penalty awarded at one of the games on MoD this morning – I think a bead of sweat from the defender landed on the forwards boot stitching and he went down as if he’d being hit by a howitzer.

It’s pathetic.

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ironfromafar wrote:

make yer own mind up ..all looks a bit daft to me .. 3 game ban incoming will give Elliot a run of starts.

From where I was, it looked to be a penalty to us. I thought that their player was the instigator.

From that little clip. It’s inclusive due to the camera angle. It looks as if it was a joint effort to get in to each others faces?
Probably both not the brightest?

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It was a dire watch – but points make prizes and that’s all that matters.

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another fed up fan

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Was their 2nd dismissal harsh?
At least we came away with all 3 points.

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Ref is rubbish.
Whitehall was ripping their guy to pieces.
Oh well… least we go in 1-0 up.

10 v 10 …

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Crap pitch.
Keystone cops first goal.
Evans the scorer I believe.
At least we are 1-0 up.

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WHAM go in to the New Year still in the No 1 spot.

A win today will see us start 2024 top of the pile.

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Feyenoord, last seasons Dutch champions played 4-3-3

Slot hits the spot:

Arne’s Army: How Slot is regenerating Feyenoord

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PSV 2023-24

P16 W16 GF56 GA6 GD+50

10 points clear of last season’s champions, Feyenoord.

23 points clear of fifth placed Ajax.

Drawn against Dortmund in the R16 of the Champions League.

Peter Bosz believes in attacking football, a swarming press, and a 4-3-3 formation.

Triangulation: 4-3-3 generates the most number of passing triangles (I’ve said that before)

Not bad for a works (Philips) team.

https://theathletic.com/4940896/2023/10/09/eurowatch-psv-bosz/?amp=1

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20th January
I wonder how many of their 1,000 Home supporters will travel.

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Who’s loving the not-WHAM alternative?
UTI

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The Royal Spanish Football Federation runs football in Spain from top to bottom.

Barcelona were last seasons Champions and are members of the RSFF.

Deutscher Fußball-Bund is the governing body of football, futsal, and beach soccer in Germany, running it from top to bottom.

Bayern Munich were last seasons Champions and are members of the DFB through the DFL as are all German Clubs.

The Italian Football Federation manages and coordinates the Italian football league system from top to toe. It is also responsible for appointing the management of the Italy national football team (men’s), women’s, and youth national football teams. The Italy national futsal team also belongs to the federation.

Napoli were the Italian Champions in 2022-23 and… you’ve joined the dots together – are members of the IFF.

Riddle me this.

When the Premier League was formed in 1992, the clubs involved all resigned from the FL/EFL

None of the clubs in today’s PL are members of the EFL.

EFL – English Football League
Therefore – the League of English Football.

If the Premier League sits outside and aside from the EFL, then is there a challenge to be made here?

If they are not part of the EFL, then last years English Champions must have surely been Burnley?

So, should Burnley, Sheff Utd, Luton & Middlesbrough be representing England in the Champions League this season?

Premier League – they want their cake and to eat it.

EFL should close the doors on the clubs finishing in the relegation places of the PL. Let’s see how interesting and exciting it is when it’s the same old, same old season after season.

The German, Spanish & Italian representatives in the Champions League are all respective members of that country’s Administrative Federation.

England’s representatives aren’t.

It’s Kerry Packer football !
Challenge it!

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Crap prediction.

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Rene Artois wrote:

Iron 1-0 Celtic

Celtic 1-1 Iron

I reckon we’ll take four points from the double header.

Tamworth 2-1 Olympic

Olympic 1-1 Tamworth

Bank holiday fixtures tend to throw up some ridiculous scores due to beer, food, partying etc.

To be honest, anything could happen.

Ding, ding; R2

I’m going to stick with my 1-1 draws for Scunny & Tammy.

The weather is going to be poor, heavy rain 80% likely at Farsley.
It’ll be a scrappy, ugly, poor game with the highlight the bovril, pie & chips at half time.
UTI

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1992-93 was the inaugural Premier League season.

Since it’s inception, only Premier League teams have won the EFL Cup.

The last team from outside the Premier League to win the League Cup / EFL Cup was Sheffield Wednesday in 1990-91.

Wednesday were on a one year secondment to the second tier that season… lol.

Yes MASTERS!

So, for the last 31 years the EFL have allowed and being happy to let non EFL members win their trophy.

Will an EFL team ever win the EFL Cup again?

You couldn’t make it up!

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Did any young (20s) guys or girls sign up?

A lifetime of football for a token, if we survive.

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The Premier League don’t need the EFL ‘feeder leagues’.

The Premier League clubs buy whomever they want from whatever league in the World that they want.

A death knell.

EFL are paupers and constantly begging for scraps from the PL.

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