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    CMC & CASSIDYSTASH
    You have forced me out of my retirement in order to leave with questions unanswered.
    Cassidystash, moving to Ilkeston was a cost cutting exercise to help the finances of Scunny… and closing a loss making stadium in the week was the same reason… you are a low level non league club, not a championship club… spend accordingly and you won’t go bust!

    CMC This week (Tues) we held the Derbyshire FA under 18 Cup final… at their request, it pissed it down, but the crowd was good, the bar was packed, the kitchen sold out, the atmosphere was electric and a good time was had by all (anything happen at Glanford Park Tues?)…yesterday we entertained 911 fans at our ground, once again, great atmosphere, bars busy, kitchens unable to cope, did you come to the football ground?….. or do you need spec savers?
    Small town … big club… that says something doesn’t it?
    Ilkeston probably as high as they can go with being a small club, and Scunthorpe have no limit to how low they can go with being a big club…. !!!!! TOSSER

    in reply to: More clueless Hilton or Dean?? #260114
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    My last post ( definetely)

    Dean…. 4 promotions in 5 years.
    Hilton…. 2 promotions in 3 years
    Scunny… 3 relagations in 4 years!
    And who is slagging who?…..
    Come in to the real world Scunny fans, and do not look at the crap from anonymous trolls who won’t give their name…
    Mr Innocent bystander gives you so much information … er… but not his name.
    Could be his wife’s father who doesn’t like him shagging his daughter… think on!

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    Lord Kitchener
    The idea of training at Ilkeston was a temporary cost cutting decision whilst the club adjusted to the rebuilding.
    And no one has ever suggested any other.
    It’s not going to happen now so no worries.
    But Scunthorpe will need to cost cut somewhere to balance the books don’t you think?
    A successful club means more chance of a successful team, regarding the Solihull game it was my personal opinion that not winning that game was pivotal in the poor finish to the season, and yes the player who rebounded the ball into the net was very sharp…credit to him.

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    Ironfromafar
    Your post is an excellent one, constructive criticism is always good, not that you have been very critical.
    You are correct about me knowing Mr Hilton very well, therefore it can be frustrating to see criticism from all quarters for just about anything he does, or doesn’t do ?
    Your assessment of the gamble he took to stay up is 100% correct, and your other thoughts are spot on as well.
    If you and any friends want to visit Ilkeston anytime you are very welcome, I have some wonderful ideas that would benefit both our clubs (innovative pioneering interaction that someone like yourself would quickly grasp).
    I am the catering manager at Ilkeston, which you see if you visit?, and not Mr Hilton masquerading as someone else, as has been suggested by some on here.
    Ilkeston is a hive of activity everyday of the week, so any day is fine to see the running of the club, and if Mr Hilton is left to get on with things you may well find Scunthorpe will follow the model we have…. self suffient, susstainable and a very positive buzz from the staff, players, and most importantly the fans.

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    I accept what you say Morthumbiron, and credit to gateshead.
    However they did not have a player embargo or the threat of closure to contend with, so it would be easier to attract players (decent players) than to Scunthorpe with all its troubles and recent well known declin.
    I was at the Solihull game and you were the better side, it knocked the stuffing out of the team when the goalie dropped his clanger (in fairness to him he had just made a world class save earlier, I am still trying to work out how you lost that game.. heads dropped and never raised again and with all the negativity the players and there families must read I think they gave up on performing a miracle.
    At that game I met and talked to quite a few fans, they were brilliant, really good away support for an evening match, the biggest asset Scunthorpe have is their fanbase, the majority are behind the club… the problem being on these forums is majorities tend tend to be silent..and minorities very loud!

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    I agree with some of what you say…but to set a forum post to insult your chairman and manager is not good is it?
    And you were not just five points behind, you had played more games than those above you… I was at the Notts county game and am quite sure you did not enter the notts penalty area once or even get a corner…. but you played Wrexham off the park for periods…. Wrexham popped Notts…funny old game football … and we in nottingham were very impressed with the scunthorpe turnout and fans passion… I was at Grimsby at yhe weekend when they played hartlepool… spoke with many fans… and they are sorry to not be able to play you…. there’s not the hatred you imagine with them.

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    No, toxic is when everything you write is negative and personally abusive to someone.
    As I said. You were going down anyway, don’t blame Mr Dean, it is very difficult to gel together players unknown to each other in a short time… look at Chelsea with their recent bunch of new signings, things take time and trying to find players, good players, late in the season is difficult with so many play off and relagations at stake…they just are not around.
    Your bad feeling towards yet another relagation is not down to Hilton and Dean….. embrace the fact you have a club, stop slagging off and give them a chance to build when players do come available in the close season.
    Mr Hilton has not bought the club to play in NLN, if he wanted to be at level he could have stayed another year at Ilkeston…. you are a big club in big shot, so instead of slagging each other off on a daily basis and all pill in one direction…. did I mention not so long ago Ilkeston had to hire generators for the flood lights to fulfill an evening fixture they could not afford to pay the electric bill… I will show you the video if ever you come down, so we (pre Hilton) know his capability…. First hand!

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    Of course there were no takers… success would frighten the life out of them… they need the failure to feed their toxic crap posts.

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    in reply to: More clueless Hilton or Dean?? #259915
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    Sideline,
    Your reply is fine, you are entitled to your opinion. And most important is that it is not toxic.
    I write for myself not Mr Hilton.
    I invited a couple of your residents troll to visit Ikeston to dispel their worries, even offering them a tour, food and drink, and speak freely to our fans in order to form an opinion,they declined. Or to put it bluntly they bottled it.
    That invitation is open to you as well, and you will see I am not Mr Hiltons mouthpiece, it will give you a better idea of what to expect under the guidance of Mr Hilton…. I was trolled a little when I mentioned our super 4g pitch, in fact I did elaborate Properly…so I will now.
    All credit toyour local team that have recently had one fitted…Bottesford I think?…
    There is however different spec on these type of pitches… we at Ilkeston are only one of 3 to this rolls Royce pitch in the UK…… another one is Liverpools training pitch…. and without being disrespectful the 3rd one is not Bottesford….. its St georges Park, England’s training ground!
    Mr Hilton did not shout his mouth of about that achievement…. he doesn’t do that,
    But I do, because I am proud of what we have at Ilkeston… so to the trolls who tried to make fun of Ilkeston…(and they did)….. put this in your pipe and smoke it!
    We Ilkeston, that tin pot, Mickey mouse, happy shopper, fifty pence club, have been approached by Birmingham City, Sheffield utd, and Derby County to play pre season games at Ilkeston…. we at Ilkeston would sooner play Scunthorpe, keeping the hospitality money to ourselves and you because of the Mr Hilton connection.. we would bring hundreds there and know you would bring more to ours..win win situation for both clubs… so no more trolling of ilkeston please!…. this clubs rise upthe league and status in the football world are largely down to Mr Hilton… someone who you have opened this particular post to insult (hilton or Dean who’s most clueless?)…. disgraceful!
    Anyone who wants to come is welcome,and you can go back and assure the trolls I am not a mouth piece for anyone, and you will get an incite to what you can achieve if you stop sticking knives in people…especially your manager!

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    Thank mistertonmick
    Your reply is welcome, and so good it is not the usual toxic crap on here.
    Of course the takeover was too late, and 90% of the good Scunny fans knew that in their head, but hoped in their heart it wasn’t…. can not fault them for that.
    I really enjoyed mixing with the fans I met at games.. top fans, top club, just needs a bit of time and you will rise again.

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    in reply to: More clueless Hilton or Dean?? #259910
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    My post is in reply to Iron-awe, not to the toxic keyboard warriors or anonymous who are clearly just trouble to the club.

    I intended to not post here again, but today I read your post, it just sums up the situation exactly, and perfectly.
    It is exceptionally precise, and your reply(your second post) to the first person to jump on the bandwagon against your sensible post, is just typical of the doom mongers on here.
    I am from ilkeston, and have been to your ground and some away games as well recently, sometimes accompanying Mr Hilton, so I know the score more than most, and definitely more than the negative trolls on here!
    When the club was taken over Scunthorpe were in a very poor position in the league with relagation almost certain, the team had been very poor to have won so few games at that late stage of the season, and this was realised by most sensible people, had Mr Hilton done nothing the trolls would have jumped up and down screaming that if we stick with this team we are doomed…and they would be right.
    Mr Hilton had a throw of the dice and tried to inject players who could possibly perform a miracle, and if not, at least he tried….nothing to lose really because you were going down anyway in my opinion, and most realistic fans of whom many I spoke to at 5 games I watched, they voiced that opinion, but they all were just pleased to still have a club.
    Finally to me, it seems that whatever Mr Hilton decides to change, or not to change , half the resident trolls on here will be up in arms, until the next decision he makes then the other half of trolls will take their turn to be up in arms….. damned if you, damned if you don’t springs to mind!
    I won’t reply to the trolls, so don’t bother lighting up your laptops.
    And when Mr Hilton and Dean come good, and they will, you won’t here a peep from these Muppets, if I offended anyone on here, I want you to know I am not sorry… probably delighted.

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    in reply to: Genuine questions for Mr David Hilton (a thread) #258451
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    I want to just clarify something in what will be my final post.
    As I said previously, I had tried to post on your other forum without success (just always said declined… see feed back) , so I was not actually using the term “keyboard warriors” on this forum, I actually think most posts on here are quite reasonable, and you seem genuine supporter’s, hence my invite.
    Some of the posts on the other site are quite toxic and no help to anyone, I am not so tech savvy being 64 years of age, and I am probably considered ” Old School” which is why I did not hide behind anything and welcomed people to come and see the set up at Ilkeston what Mr Hilton and Mr Nally achieved.
    They teach History in School to give you an idea of what can happen if certain circumstances occur again, as it may give you a insight to the possible outcome.
    I just wanted you to be able to Ilkestons history book, it may have helped you a little.
    My last post as I don’t want to become a keyboard warrior.

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    Thank you for your reply, the strange thing about all this is the direction each club is going you may well becoming here on a match day….just hope it’s in the national league for both our sakes…
    Best of luck and best wishes with your club

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    Deereme66
    I clearly said ‘ send your e-mail to me’ and I will reply to you.
    I am not the chairman of Ilkesten as it has been suggested on here, or a mouth piece for Mr Hilton.
    I most certainly do not wish to have a keyboard warrior battle with anyone, as it seems my correspondence is heading towards that direction, and social media isn’t always a good thing is it?
    My initial post was to say how well our club has prospered, maybe yours could as well?
    I actually work at Ilkeston town, if you Mr Deereme66 would like to come tomorrow (most people are free Sundays) and have a pint and pie, and guided tour, and meet fans that are not constantly bickering with each other that would be great, for obvious reasons I would not put my e-mail on here, but will reply with my phone number which I hope you would respect.
    If you choose not to come, best of luck with your final games.
    Patrick

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    Of course you don’t, you only want to live and dream negativity… any chance of a glimpse of success would be alien to you.
    Anyone wishing to visit Ilkeston send me your e-mail…we will arrange it, if not, don’t reply to my posts, I don’t really want to engage with people who did not have a club, who now have a club, and are dissatisfied!

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    in reply to: Genuine questions for Mr David Hilton (a thread) #258380
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    Hi, I would like to say (once again) there is no time limit on anyone coming to Ilkeston, come tomorrow or ten years time, makes no difference to me.
    My offer will stand.
    I would like to know though, has any of the people who have criticised Mr Hilton actually put a penny of their own money into the club?…. I think not!
    I have been to a few games recently to see Scunthorpe (home and away) hoping they could avoid relegation, I am not sure now if I would come again?
    It seems to me the fans, or some of them, want to see the dark side of everything?…. we would not want that type of fan at Ilkeston… I doubt any of you will come to see how Ilkeston has prospered.

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    Patrick here…. and not gone anywhere, just don’t live my life on a keyboard.
    Firstly I did try and post on the fans site, for some reason my post is always declined?… I am not so tech minded to understand why?
    Secondly, I will welcome any person who has posted on this thread to Ilkeston town, I will point out the massive improvements I have spoken about, and introduce you to lifetime fans who I suspect will give you an honest account of the way the club have climbed mount everest under Mr Hilton. It will probably be about as high and the same distance as Scunthorpe have nose dived in about the same time scale….
    The invitation is open and without a tome limit, and I will buy all who come a pint.. .
    I find it hard to believe you were losing your club and someone saves it, and he is being stabbed in the back.
    Hope he comes back to Ilkeston one day.

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    in reply to: Genuine questions for Mr David Hilton (a thread) #258270
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    Rene Artois
    I do not know other peoples financial status, but from experiences at Ilkeston and monies spent, with breathtaking improvements to the club and playing structures I think he has proved he is a winner… without doubt!
    As for poor communication, we’ll its not is it?… replying, and responding to negative comments from a small percentage of fans, who you would not have heard a peep out of, if the team were likely to escape relaxation is not my idea of good communication.
    As I said, let the doubters go to Ilkeston and ask independent fans about Mr Hiltons capability.. and not listen to keyboard warriors.

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    in reply to: Genuine questions for Mr David Hilton (a thread) #258266
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    I would like to maybe ask a question to the supporters rather than to Mr Hilton.
    Would you agree actions are far better than words?….yes of course they are, words are free and open to anyone who wants to chip in with their pennyworth, it’s a bit different when you have to put your hand in your pocket isn’t it?….and people who have criticised Mr Hilton have not put their hands anywhere near their pockets.
    Let me tell you about Mr Hiltons actions at Ilkeston, actions he has not had chance yet to reproduce at Scunthorpe.
    When he and his partner brought Ilkeston, it too was on its knees, not so different from the situation at Scunthorpe.
    In a relatively short time Ilkestons fortunes have had a massive turnaround, two successive promotions (winning the league on the latest one), Ilkeston now have the best pitch in the league, premiership standard dug out, changing rooms better than most league clubs, an unrivalled hospitality section in non league football, and probably many league grounds as well, so many kids football teams, too many to count, plus ladies teams to boot ( the senior ladies have just made the cup final), other teams and academies travel to play at Ilkeston from far, far away (one team from Southhampton in Feb this year).
    The club has a very busy schedule with hospitality events, weddings, parties, business meetings, and host some very high profile charity matches with many celebrities attending or involved.
    Sir Kier Starmer chose Ilkeston football club as his platform to address perspective voters on his publicity campaign.
    All quite impressive don’t you think, considering 99% of people would struggle to find this very small town of Ilkeston on the map.
    Ilkeston have fared well in the higher league they have been promoted to, will finish just outside the playoffs in their first season. But the surprising thing mostly is that they play against a lot of bigger, well established clubs that you find easily on a map, and even more surprising is that Ilkeston town have the highest home attendance in the league, and the most travelling fans to boot, and for a club on the outskirts of the town, that does not have a bus or train service pass anywhere near the ground that’s another surprising thing don’t you think?
    Mr Hilton has left Ilkeston in very good hands, and if he were to return in any capacity I am sure it would be to a fanfare of trumpets… even it was as the car park attendant…. finally Mr Hilton and the new manager did not so much jump on a sinking ship… more like the Titanic, but given time you will float up again, and if your not sure about that? Go to a game at Ilkeston and ask the fans about the “before and after” Mr Hilton and his partner.

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