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Iron414 wrote:

Pat, thanks for the catering pointers, you can sod off now, the role of panto villain round these parts is mine! (and occasionally AWG’s)

Glad you enjoyed it, to be honest I enjoyed it myself, I met Awaywego when he came to Ilkeston, nice chap, going to sign off now, hope I have raised a few smiles tonight. It wasn’t my intention but the opportunity arose so I took it, all are welcome to come and have a pint with me if we get promoted to NLN …or you get relegated to our league (hope not)

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Siderite wrote:

You still droning on with more insults?

You want the last word obviously, so you can have it, don’t want you topping yourself now do we?…. so I won’t reply to your next potty reply, good night Siderite. Hope you find the dictionary.

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Siderite wrote:

It was tbf. Sorry for getting sucked into this.

You did not get sucked in you idiot, you jumped in head first… and you probably don’t even realise, well done on the grammatical correction, I always appreciate people putting me right, and never offended.

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Siderite wrote:

Patrick0811 wrote:

Siderite wrote:

More snide digs from the toxic individual. Exactly what you caused last time.

no snide digs at anyone

lol.

For posters on here who were not sure if your an idiot, you have confirmed it tonight.

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Siderite wrote:

More snide digs from the toxic individual. Exactly what you caused last time.

no snide digs at anyone just replied to you in the only way you understand, poke the bear and it bites back, don’t poke the bear and maybe it will let you stroke it… learn a lesson.

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Siderite wrote:

Maybe quote the right person next time.

I am sorry that reminding of your own toxicity gets you going. You played an active role in dividing the fanbase. I won’t be giving you some pat on the back because you have catering opinions.

I think people quickly clocked who I was replying to, there is only one idiot on here that it could apply to isn’t there?…. no then tell us what you know about catering?… enlighten us?… you do realise this post is about catering don’t you?… of course you do, no body could possibly be that stupid could they, A POST ABOUT CATERING IS ABOUT…er…CATERING, not the problems in your head, go and have a lie down, find a dictionary, look up catering, it’s under the C section, and then if you find anything of interest or beneficial come and post for us, that would be nice if you could contribute something to the subject of this post…..and not your mental health problems.

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Xxx wrote:

Its about catering oh you forgot as usual

Oh dear, you have completely lost it, I posted as a football fan, and nothing else, I have helped some other clubs to restructure their catering with advice that had proved to be very beneficial to them, I have total respect for the fans at Scunthorpe, and offered some advice on catering that may or may not help… my post was 100% about catering, nothing else, you seem to want to pull it in another direction?…. you clearly are the person trying to stir trouble, but you won’t upset me, you will just embarrass your self further….oh and do you know anything about catering or not?… because if you don’t JOG ON

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Siderite wrote:

I am pleased we have you to declare what others think. I never said your post was offensive to anyone, but why let that get in the way of
Glad to see you carrying on from last time in some personal insinuations, because you don’t like being called out for the toxic, divisive individual you have been on this forum. A bad stench that should be left in the past.

You have responded again?…and it’s still not about catering?… the first comment was someone telling you ..you just can not keep your mouth shut… and he’s right isn’t he?…. if it is not about catering as this post is… don’t reply, you are making yourself look sillier each time you post… trying to help you.

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Siderite wrote:

I didn’t respond to anything you specifically said, did I? That was my point, so what was I ‘baited’ by? I have no interest in what you said, especially as you joined in trying to cause rifts among our fanbase and I will respond to who I want, thank-you.

You are embarrassing yourself, you are trying to create a problem that does not exist, others posters on here will be thinking “what a plonker”…. my post is not offensive to anyone, it is advice maybe that could be helpful, a d if not just ignore it, don’t let it upset you, you are over sensitive and maybe need to see someone?….

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Siderite wrote:

Might make sense if I responded to anything he said in that post.

you have responded?…. but nothing to do with the subject in this post?….. this subject is about catering and NOTHING else.
If you know nothing about catering find another page please.

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MK Iron wrote:

Footy food has to address its biggest single challenge. You have two fairly short windows to serve 90% of your product. From about 14:30 until just before kick off then again at half time with about 5 minutes either side.

During these times you want your staff passing out food and drinks, taking payment and moving on. Maybe having one adding food options (peas, gravy, onions etc.) and maybe another pouring drinks.

Cooking stuff and messing about with multi options is bad news for vendors and punters alike.

Menu for hot food should be no more than 5 or 6 and only things that can be batch prepared and ready to rock for the 2 peaks. No expensive catering equipment needed to keep things warm and edible for 30 minutes. Soft drinks and beer in plastic bottles. The club are surely missing out on an earner not selling beer while they can.

The few times I have had decent footy food it invariably follows these principles and the vast majority of times has been done in partnership with businesses that know how to do event food.

This comment is an excellent assessment of the problems of catering for the masses in a short time span, it’s an age old problem suffered by all football clubs, more so, by well attended games.
There is however a way to ease the problems a little for the customer and the caterer….it can take a little time to introduce and be accepted by the fans (home fans) but it does work eventually.
MK is 100% correct with his comments about the timescale, staff, and preparation that I did wonder if he had a catering background, but more probably just can see the obvious, that other people seem to not take on board when having to queue for slow served food?…
I have not solved the entire problem here at Ilkeston, let me make that very clear, but I have managed to speed up the service and serve food that gets very good feedback(on our and their social media after games) every week from away fans, ….the most common comment being ‘ that’s the best burger I have had all season…and the cheapest!)…
Before I explain how, I would like to make clear that our fan base is nowhere as large as yours, but I do open the food outlets accordingly, so it CAN be replicated to a larger crowd.
To those still reading here goes…(hoping my old sparring partner Deeryme is still with us?)….
First of all (as MK rightly said) You cannot be offering a large selection of food to the masses in a short window, it is too time consuming while they make their mind up, and time consuming with the staff switching over to different things every minute…big problem, and the main problem me thinks..
I have solved this problem, simple idea but not yet seen at any other football ground yet?….
I offer a very varied menu, Pies, cornish Pasties, sausage rolls, hot peas, chips with curry sauce, cheese, and peas, cheese/bacon burgers, bacon and sausage rolls/cobs/barm cakes or whatever you call them, chicken fillets with lettuce cheese and mayo, filled rolls (ham/cheese)… plus tea/ coffee/ hot chocolate/ Bovril… and too many cold drinks to mention…. oh.. and I forgot to mention cheesy hot dogs… so a big menu don’t you agree?…
How could I offer so much at a busy period like half time?…. well I don’t!
I have educated our fans over time that they can have all this (if it is not sold out) at any time between when I open at 1pm until 15 mins before half time, and until 15 mins after half time, for the period in-between they can have…. cheese burgers, or cheeseburgers,or CHEESE BURGERS!…no other food goes over my counter, we prep an awful lot on the grills and the queue moves very fast, most people get their burger before they get their change or the card machine pings “transaction successful “….. when the queue dies down it’s back to the full menu.
The food goes out at the correct temperature, the staff are totally focused on one thing, the fans get fed quickly….oh and by the way, Ilkeston has a five star food rating (Erewash borough Council) if any one cares to check…when I asked why we were getting 5 stars ?… the woman said because we don’t do six… only joking…
This system spreads the eating time of the fans and increases the kitchen takings, fans come early to fill up knowing they will get good food at very fair prices, so they don’t go elsewhere on the way… I think?

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Deeryme.
Save any replies till at least Sunday now.
Going to log off as racing from Goodwood on the telly, Sheffield Wed to watch tonight, hosting Notts County tomorrow whilst trying to listen to the Scunny game, forced to take the Missus out Saturday nights, busy Sunday with a tournament… so will check in with you Sunday afternoon (gives you a bit of time to create a good reply as well)… have a nice weekend Deeryme.

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Siderite

May I suggest you scroll up a bit to see Deeryme have a little dig at me?… for no reason whatsoever.
Now the boot is on the other foot, he has gone to sit under his stairs with his dummy firmly in.
He loves having little pops at people, not just me, but he can not take it when in bounces back at him!..
Come on Deeryme, get back to your keyboard…its getting cold.

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Hi Awaywego
Rattled him there didn’t I ?
He don’t like being called an armchair fan does he?…
I was going to go to Tamworth tomorrow but we have arranged a last minute friendly with Notts County… so scuppered that, but I might have arranged to meet Deeryme there so he could put to bed the myth that he does actually attend games?… maybe he will catch up with others on here who can vouch for his attendance?… wont hold my breath on that one though!!

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Deeryme
Pretty sure everyone else on here understood what I said…. just you did not get the drift… a bit like you never seeing your garden gate (for you only) … because it would mean leaving your keyboard if ever you thought about attending a game.

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Deeryme
Mk iron did not say Armaggen was being announced every 5 mins… he clearly said he was checking if it had arrived as predicted today several times in the last day or two…
You really must read things correctly before you comment.
As for your comment concerning me probably knowing more than anyone else on here?…. reminds me of the guy who goes in the pub and says he is in the S.A.S… of course if he really was he wouldn’t mention it would he… but seeing as he does it let’s everyone in the pub know he is a bullshitter!…. so anyone with INSIDE INFORMATION would not be given that information if they couldn’t be trusted to keep it INSIDE…. Get my drift Deeryme?…. so me not blabbing stuff to anyone who will listen or suck it in… is privy to things, and can be trusted to let things take there course.
I only post on here by the way, and some of my recent comments have been repeated on other forums?… including Grimsby towns Forum, meaning we have one of those guys in this forum who is probably one of those down the pub claiming to be in the S.A.S…. very rude to put my comments on other forums.. if I wanted that I would do it myself…wasn’t you was it Deeryme?

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Best ever post on this site!
No other words possible to improve it.

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Whilst I understand it is nessacary to have a user name on this site, I also realise that most people who do post, do not intentionally post anonymously, they are almost certainly known to other members of this group, for example myself!
I don’t hide behind a keyboard anonymously, I can be visited in person if someone wished to do so, and I have actually met people from this site who operate exactly the same way… upfront, not hiding, no back door tactics, no under the table dealings, no spouting rumour, while safely anonamous should anything back fire, to be afraid to reveal who you are, or why your doing it, while causing unrest, is a great example of cowardice and spineless behavior.
It is blindingly obvious that anyone trying thier utmost to bring down Hilton, is in doing so, will bring down Scunthorpe United!!
Any such person is only interested in their own personal agenda, and could not give two hoots about the club or its fans… obviously!
I do not reply directly reply to these type of cowards, and in my opinion it is the people foolish enough to engage with them that fans the flames and unrest.
If anyone finds my posts offensive (as suggested earlier) , I have some advice for them…. don’t read them when you see my name at the top… problem solved.
And if you don’t, please feel free to discuss anything you like,
I try to deal in fact, not fiction, so anything I post I firmly believe, although I am not infallible and dont mind being corrected should I make a mistake.

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Hi Cassidy
Think you have just about summed it up perfectly.
It’s the 4% who wet themselves with excitement at the mention of anything negative about the club, Hilton, Dean, the team not playing well, the Catering, the academy, Car parking, etc , they would get off on the club folding , how they must be feeling the pain with a decent looking team being built, the manager not being slagged off, but praised, the team itself looking like they are really going to enjoy the challenge ahead, the fans buzzing about the first game at Tamworth… the positivity must be making them ill.. me thinks!
The other 96% (some of who I met personally at Ilkeston) are top quality fans, and the dozens I spoke to briefly at my food outlet were full of good banter, it’s that 4% that are loudest and could well damage your great club.
Hope you don’t let them.

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We are a small club in a small town, so we are realistic about things.
We have had 3 promotions in 5 years so have come a long way.
National league North would be as good as we could get I think?..
So to have hosted Scunthorpe the other week was notable to say the least, and of course we hosted Derby County last night.
We are a strong community with everyone pulling in the same direction, and have created a junior set up second to none in football circles…
Thats about the short and tall of it.

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Maybe I did notmake things clear?, I don’t think we are going to try and stick 11 yoing players together, we have some good experienced players who we will keep, but maybe introduce some young players instead of older experienced players joining… which will in some way explain Leroy Lita leaving.
Leroy has been brilliant here, and stated that it has been great to play at our club, and he’s a nice guy as well.
We are trying a different approach to see how it goes?
You seen a decent guy, and your posts are reasonable and good to read.

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Yes ban over, driving his own top of the range …Range Rover, but still looking for a couple of people to thump…
Thanks for the laugh… you have made my day

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Very interesting attachment you have put on here .
Our club is a sustainable model for any football club to take note and follow, we have very recently spent several thousands of pounds installing new toilets and and a dance floor, in order to enhance our hospitality options, we have in the past paid big wages to ex pro’s with limited success and possibly not concentrating so much on the non football side of running a club, which of course it is very important to not rely on turnover takings, many chairman of clubs at our level are voicing opinions of low than average attendances this year in pre -season friendlies, this of course is almost certainly due to the current financial crisis, so in my opinion my son, the chairman here, is concentrating on expanding our hospitality income, pitch rental, tournaments, weddings, wakes, presentations. etc, in order to make the club not reliant on turnstile takings, and it seems to be working.
As I have stated previously, I was very impressed at the set up and standard at Rushall when we played there last year, all young lads, played us off the park, and few, if any, on big money, they surprised a few (but not me) when they won the play offs, I personally think it is worth trying their system of neutering a young team for a season or two, and hopefully do a “Rushall” and spend more constantly uprating our already superb facilities, as witnessed by Scunny fans when they visited here recently.
My son runs our club to the best of his ability, and makes the decisions with very little or any criticism from our fans, they know that since Himself and Dave Hilton took over the club it has prospered beyond their expectations, so they don’t take much notice of other people’s opinion, but more of what they see with their own eyes…. and certainly not what People put on social media.
Our fans are brilliant, and create a great atmosphere for such a small club…. win ,lose, or draw.

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Bang right there Deereyme, behind him 100%, things change, decisions have to be made, and we are not a revolving door with people who do have interaction with our club.
Pleased to say people who do leave are respected by the fans and tomorrow’s another day.

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All concerned fans meet once a year in a telephone box up the road near the ground, anyone wishing to join them just pop along, there will be plenty of space….

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Jamie ward left the club with mutual consent, nothing sinister, left on good terms, great atmosphere in the clubhouse tonight after the game, even though we lost, no fans showing any concern about how the club is being run, every one here happy about everything, we are not a club at war with each other, we are like one big family.
And I predict there will be a queue of people wanting the managers job, sorry to disappoint anyone who would have liked to hear negativity concerning our club…sorry but it doesn’t exist here.

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Sadly this happens in all walks of life, especially with footballers.
Do you really think Ronaldo wants to be stuck in Arab land, or Messi In Miami?…. I do wonder if they think the amount they are earning reflects their ability on the pitch?
At least they are openly chasing the money but Henderson has displayed hypocrasy at its height, maybe someone should tell him there are no shops in heaven to spend all the money?… and Gerrards on the same bus as well.

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Hi awaywe go
Not received anything through the post yet?…..

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Yes, will be astounded if any of your away games are not segregated, you are a big fish in a small pond and should be a pocket filler for other clubs…

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Hi Deereyme
Not really much call for A La carte here although we do have the facility’s for it, I did run a top end eaterie on the Costa Del Sol, so if Scunny win the league and want to have a posh knees up here I can accommodate, maybe Dave Hilton will foot the bill. Ha ha

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