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Expect a whole catalogue of proposed “reforms” to be bandied about. From the sensible to the downright ridiculous.
This one from Moysie is probably the latter: –
“David Moyes: West Ham boss calls for a unified British competition”
So an improvement on Tuesday then?
Did he say owt about this?
“Fan-led review of English football to consider ownership, finance and fan involvement”
not affected Coventry too much either
Err, ground sharing with Northampton and Birmingham?
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Don’t worry lads, he’s got the interests of the club at heart and isn’t going to walk away.
He told us so on the last podcast!
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Socialism vs Capitalism. Who’d have thought eh?
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I’m sure our resident economics expert will put our minds at rest by coming on here and telling us that “there’s nothing remotely unusual about this” and that it makes “perfect sense”!
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“Snagging some players on the cheap” is what got us into this mess!
We need a spine (in more ways than one).
Experienced keeper, CB, CMF & striker to be signed this summer. One at least has to be capable of being an on field leader/captain.
Anything less will be suicide!
Surely there will be sanctions from the Prem for those six clubs?
It is traditional for the leaders of a failed coup to be put up against a wall and shot!
Not on about that. Talking about your strange idea that the nation wanted Liverpool to win the cup so other teams rolled over.
Nah! Don’t think so.
Aye!
Basically we’d have to lose the last five by a cricket score for Southend to finish above us on GD, and the Cods need to win all their remaining games. If they draw or lose one we’re safe.
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The current form table makes for bleak reading.
Don’t read it then!
Sometimes I wonder what you’re on about Awaywego!
Anyway back to the ESL debacle. Another funny thing was reading the statements issued by the “Big Six”.
Grovellingly apologetic to their loyal fans. I wonder if we could expect a similar statement from the board of SUFC after the distress caused by this season’s performances?
I won’t hold my breath!
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Our assembled forward line constitutes zero ambition.
Please Mr Swann for the sake of our club sort it out.
We’ve been asking him to do that for the last three years. What makes you think he’s going to do anything other than sack Cox and replace like for like?
What makes you think the “committee” will stop signing the Aaron Jarvis and Dunwald-Turan types and go for an Eoin Doyle or a Jamille Matt?
He’ll be too busy sorting out his hotels and casinos for May 17th.
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remember the Cox/Lillis appointment was hailed as the dream team at the the time.
Yes, let’s wind back to last summer. The league had been declared null & void so we were spared the nervous end to season we’ve just witnessed. Wilcox declared that he didn’t want to be first team manager, so the vacancy was there.
I was one of the many who said that it had to be the right appointment as we couldn’t continue as a hiring and firing club. It had been the same the previous year when Hurst was appointed. As ‘tash says Cox & Lillis looked to be the dream team. A young, hungry manager eager to cut his teeth in his first managerial role, and a wily old fox who knows the ins and outs of the game. The bonus being that they were both ex Iron players and, indeed Cox was a Scunny lad!
Fast forward a year and we are still in the same position. So why didn’t it work?
Well it hadn’t worked with McCall, Daws/Dawson or Hurst so should we have expected anything different?Cox has still suffered the same frustrations as previous incumbents. Training ground injuries, players going through mood-swings, players being asked to play out of position, realising in October your keeper isn’t good enough so bringing in someone on a short term contract/loan. Not having an on field leader in the Crozzer/Bish mould. Not having a plan B!
All these things have happened before Cox and Lillis set foot through the door. It’s been a season of more of the same. What had made this season even worse is the quality of players Cox has had to work with. He is responsible for bringing some here, but most were sourced by our erstwhile recruitment “committee”.
I don’t disagree with SS24 or IITB, I just think that whilst the present ownership continue as they have, changing the manager will have minimal effect on our performances. Sack Cox and appoint Wellens, Mourinho or whoever and I’ll stick my neck out and say we’ll be back having the same conversation next Spring.
Peter Swann comes on and talks a good job. We’re restricted by budget, Covid has been terrible, we’ve been unlucky with injuries to our best players etc etc etc. But it’s the same for every club in L2 (and many in L1). Look at Morecambe. Absolute garbage last year, could get automatic promotion this. They’ve done it during a pandemic with no fans in the stadium and a small budget. Accrington Stanley in L1. Harrogate Town FFS!
This malaise has been set in at our club since Chris Lucetti left. I don’t think a sixth manager since we sacked Alexander will do any better, especially if we keep signing too many poor players.
The guys who needs to learn from their mistakes are not just the ones sat in the dugout.
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Can Swanny find anyone cheaper than Cox?
Because that’s what it’ll come down to.
The Prawn must be seething having to pay wages to these wasters.
Prawn is responsible for bringing them here in the first place!
Get Richie Wellens in and allow him the budget to do what he wants with!
You could get Guardiola in, but with the budget he’d be given the results would be minimal.
There’s no easy fix for this. The rot started three seasons ago and it’ll take another three to sort it out.
Cox is not the main problem.
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I’m sure some Newcastle fans will be NI, not all. There’s still a risk here of viewing fans of these clubs as one homogenous mass
I think I covered that in my earlier post.
Hope I did.
I wonder what Everton fans think of potentially having their two biggest games of the season taken away from them?
Got The Far Corner on my bookshelf! It features Darlington 2, Scunthorpe 1 (Carmichael). January 94.
The Newcastle fans are rubbing their hands in glee, because they think that with those six gone they’ll be in the running for a league title or an FA Cup win!
And they won’t be the only ones.
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Very good points Awaywego.
And if the clubs can fill their 60-75,000 all seater stadia and sell the overpriced merchandising and food/drink AND get a fat wad of money from a tv company then why should they worry about Joe Public?
Down the road from me, Newcastle United can get 55,000 polyester clad “fans” into SJP even when the football is crap and said fans are moaning. Meanwhile in the surrounding conurbation similarly attired punters are watching on tv in pubs and clubs. Throwing copious amounts of larger down their necks, much to the delight of the landlords.
Their idea of supporting the Toon is not how many games they get to a season but how quickly they can get hold of the new home shirt, and how many NUFC related tattoos they can fit on their corpulent bodies. Their preference is for tribal drinking rather than live football.
Of course not all NE football fans are like that, so the ones who can’t (or won’t) pay £40 for a ticket go and watch the likes of Gateshead, Blyth Spartans or Spennymoor Town. Where it costs £8-£12 to get in and pie, peas and a pint will get you change from a fiver! You can stand or sit with your mates and even have a bit of banter with away supporters.
Not a great comparison, but there was a similar scenario with breweries. A century ago every town had its own brewery (Brigg had Sutton-Bean & Sergeants). Cities had several. By the 60s/70s they had all been bought out and we had 4/5 big brewers churning out bland nitro-keg rubbish. The reaction – microbreweries producing good beers at a local level.
And how do the major players combat this? Making their bland brews even colder and employing clever marketing tricks to attract the younger drinkers.
You’ve developed a brand name, so go on and milk it for all its worth. There are countless multinational companies out there doing exactly that. Why should football be any different?
That’s what’s happening with these ESL proposals. I talk football with guys in their thirties and many of them confess to following the European Leagues. Some actually say they “support” Barcelona or Real Madrid!
Any Capitalists out there who are enraged by the thought of a ESL are hypocrites. Any Brexiteer who thought we were better out of Europe – tough luck!
It’ll be very interesting to see where the tipping point is.
side passes virtually non-existent
Now there’s an idea. Forward passes only! A sort of reverse rugby.
Which is fine if you have forwards with strength and a good first touch or pacy wingers who can run onto a through ball.
And you have to know when to make that forward pass, which involves players moving off the ball.
Nothing wrong with side passes if they create space and drag opponents out of position. Better than giving away possession.
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The game was formed by the people for the people to enjoy
Actually it was formed by toffs in public schools.
A lot of water flowed under the Stamford Bridge before it filtered down to the working man.
Football fans worldwide are responsible for creating this monster. Is anyone really shocked by this news?
Hypocrisy by the bucket-load doing the rounds today. And already the vultures are circling over the carcasses.
I shall observe from a nearby perch.
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On the down side, any restructuring may save the Cods from relegation! ☹️
What a pile of crap BS.
Of course fans aren’t happy. It’s not just you.
So how do you suggest we protest? In a normal season we could do it at the ground, or outside the ground, or even by staying away from the ground. But we can’t, so what do you suggest as an alternative?
Social media? The club doesn’t a) have to read it, and b) have to take any notice of it. You could write to Mr Swann. After all he says he reads and responds to every letter (apart from Alcy’s). But after hearing what he said in response to Witton Iron last week, you can guess what the reply may be.
I know, let’s have a fans’ forum! They work – NOT!
So perhaps your protest march idea is the only option. Gather at the site of the OSG and march down Donny Rd to the SVS. You get it organised and I’ll drive down and join in.
That’s if demonstrations haven’t been banned!
That’ll be the end of term after you’ve failed your exams and have to come back the following term and do re-sits.
That or sign on the dole.
Well two of them scored today thereby only worsening our GD by one when it could easily have been four.
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