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I get the impression that DH will actually make improvements rather than just talk about it. Look forward to seeing more detailed plans about the proposed development and how the club will benefit.
Donating money rather than loaning it is massive positive.
Interesting that he thinks the training pitch is really poor quality and that was one of the few things swann actually did invest in, it seems not very successfully.
Inevitable that big cost savings have to be made so we can live within our means.
That said, don’t like the relocation to Ilkeston, seems unfair on the scunny, Donny and east Yorkshire based players and staff we have. Surely this change will cost more money if we have to pay for a bus to take people to Ilkeston. Having a pudding of a training pitch at GP would be good practice for winter in NLN.Is this another indictment on our situation – that our location is making it this difficult to get together a team that can compete in the 5th/6th tier?
I take your point about the training ground – how has it become this poor, or was it always so?
I also agree with the point about staff used to calling Scunthorpe their main place of work. I’m assuming that new staff will be recruited with a view to their main place of work being Ilkeston, with Scunthorpe being a secondary place of work. I wonder how attractive that will be, when added to 6th tier football.
What, realistically, do we need in order to be competitive on and off the field next year, assuming that relegation happens?
On the field – some new players. I don’t pretend to know the contract situation of the current side, however, given that many of these have either experienced 2 relegations or have arrived as ‘panic’ buy stop gaps, I’m supposing that the team sheet in August looks significantly different to the last on in April/May. Would a squad of around 22 players plus 4-5 loanees be around a realistic mark?
Off the field – Manager, Assistant, 1st Team Coach, GK Coach, Physio. Would we need any more connected to a NLN team? Office based staff and those who manage GP – I’m not sure what is needed there. Many roles, as WG suggested, could likely be merged given the scope and size of a NLN operation. However, I’m supposing that I know what it is going to be like!
Does anyone know who will be staying with us next season, assuming they don’t get released/sold? I’m guessing the likes of Wilson and Foster will be long gone before August.
Up the Iron!
The scenario I suspect has many turns left in what undoubtedly will be a bumpy and twisted road.
I’m not sure what to make of this. My cynical brain suggests that this is the beginning of a new future of sustained lower league football, where investment is minimal as the club adjusts to cutting its cloth to support a NLN team and where cooperation with Ilkeston is deemed to be our saviour. Perhaps they become a feeder club to Scunthorpe and this is where our loanees start their recovery from the humiliation of been dropped from Premier League 2 to NLN or perhaps even Tier 4 of Non-League football. Neither club moves forward to any great degree, perhaps Ilkeston do due to the pulling power of Scunthorpe attracting loanees that Ilkeston cannot. Scunthorpe effectively become a mothballed version of what they once were, attendances dwindle until a merger with Ilkeston becomes the only realistic way forward. Franchise established…
The happy, clappy optimist that lies within sees how we move some facilities to get better opportunities. We mothball costly functions for a season or two until the books balance and the provision is better. Scunthorpe swallow their portion of humble pie, accept their plight but move forward proudly. Hilton invests over time, facilities improve in Scunthorpe and the club eventually rolls forward, with a realistic financial proposition in its own ground with its own academy returning upon our return to EFL football.
The reality…likely to be neither of these.
I just hope we survive, thrive and retain some identity that makes SUFC the proud club we know and love.
Up the Iron.
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Swann, Turnbull, Hill… It doesn’t really matter who they churn out. It wouldn’t sound any sweeter, even if they could get someone to write a script with words like sorry, gutted, embarrassed, hurting…
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Iron away at St James, losing 3-0 and the away support singing about how Shearer had took them down…the Cliff leap v Tranmere, Sparrow goal that kept us up in the Championship, Sheldon supersub v Swansea… The whole Nigel Adkins rollercoaster ride of positivity.
Today feels horrible, but those memories and others live strong.
UTI!!
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I’m not sure if I expected any different. Passion isn’t a theme of our leadership team speeches/statements. What I do know is that we need them to know finally smell the roasted beans and get the platform for next season in place ASAP. New owners (if the actually exist) and new players, deadwood removed ASAP. I wouldn’t play many of them now, blood the youth and work out which are worth keeping!
Firstly though, we need an on pitch Captain. Not easy to buy but an absolute priority. Hopefully gel the new team quicker …
UTI!!
Capt, thanks for the kind words. The truth for us now is that we are in the most uncertain of times. The only certainty is the relegation. We don’t know where the future of the club will be. Are there actually buyers who wish to take onboard a club with no real assets and a debt that is likely beyond the means of most to repay? Will we have a ground to play in? There is nothing to stop Swann seeking the land as commercial, I’m sure there would be takers for that. Then what…?
The glory days, like those of Grimsby, were fantastic memories and mean at least as much to me as another trophy for Liverpool or one of the other big clubs. Flounders, Daws, Calvo-Garcia, Gayle… Mean nothing to most people outside of Scunthorpe but each of those lads brought something to the club and I’m grateful! This was before the Millennium bug was a thing!
Now, a squad bereft of quality, a youth policy that bears precious little fruit, a number of players who seem to compete… to spend time with the medical team and a senior leadership team that is offering precious little actual leadership. Many similarities to Town, but unfortunately I think we are scraping the barrel harder than your club did.
We will move on. Next year always brings hope, our hope is to stabilise and begin the journey of putting together a competitive team for our new level. The current squad would struggle to survive for sure.
All the best. UTI!!
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I thought Lewis did OK when he came on. His touch looks decent for our level and he looked to make a pass. I agree about Loft, there is some talent there but there isn’t the application needed for a team like ours that is crying out for consistent performances. I would like to see Wilson and Gallimore get more playing time, they have the desire I like to see. Lewis deserves to be around the squad too. Add a proven forward at this level and a CB and I think we will have enough to survive. Hill’s more difficult job is on the summer, whether we survive or not.
Rod McDonald…old McDonald would have marked him better than we did. You’d have thought when he got the crossbar we’d have learned a lesson. Let’s hope 2nd half we get after them. UTI!!
Did Doncaster have more fans at the game than there were Scunthorpe fans? I can’t make weekend matches, but a Donny supporting friend reckoned that they literally outnumbered the Scunthorpe support. That’s a sad indictment of true…Too many by the ways… :-)
Ultimately, do we have the players to deliver on any system effectively? I see a bucket load of effort on the whole, which I appreciate, but also a chasm in terms of football league class. How many of our side would get into a top half National League side? I don’t think we’d lose too many to those clubs if we made the squad available for free transfer (sadly…)
I do wonder about the recruitment too. I just don’t think many managers would get a fine tune out of this group of players. I will be delighted to be proven wrong and I hope I have a massive portion of humble pie to eat soon!
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Lincoln provided us with what we needed-a proper test. They knew what to do with the ball and when they lost it and were generally that little bit more clinical in all areas. Their defence mainly kept us to half chances, the midfield moved the ball far better than we did and their front line, led well by Hopper, gave the back line a challenge.
Positives for me were the attitude from the players, always trying to do the right things. Perry looked effective in midfield, just wish he had the other trialist from Saturday next to him. Pugh looked very good at the back and Beestin did enough to persuade me he should start. From the bench, Taft looked effective without really threatening ⅝6 and Wilson did enough to suggest he could win free kicks in good positions and his energy was contagious.
On the flip side, we look poor up front, there is a serious lack of punch there. No player suggested they’d be clinical in front of goal, not did we create too much for those forwards to be able to prove me wrong. If we are able to bring in an finisher, this team has potential to do significantly better than we have seen for a few years.
6 out of 10 tonight, but definitely moving in the right direction!
I thought today’s encounter was a good one. No-one was bad, trialist B (no 8) looked a class apart at times. I’d sign him up. No 4, trialist A, also looked very useful and is worthy of another game at the very least.
My only real criticism is that we still look at little toothless up front. Sort that out and we will do nicely this season.
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Has anyone else got the same sinking feeling we had a few years ago when we signed a ridiculous number of defenders? Just this time with forwards? None of the signings will have got the other League Two sides worried, only us!
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