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Its becoming pretty obvious how this clusterfook is gonna pan out ..regardless of If Swann pays the loan off (which as a businessman he wont).
Im now more of the thinking Hill will walk any time between Feb to the end of the season.
To not muster a single shot on target in 90 mins is an embarassment and highlights just how poor we have become.
The NL league is looking nailed on and imo it would be a huge surprise (miracle) for us to survive , more so NL life there after will be very tough and SUFC could find themselves there for years and do well not to fall lower ala Kidiminster …worse still and admin and into the history books as another Bury or Macc town.
SAD TIMES INDEED and despite my hopes of survival are dwindling i remain claret n blue all way through.
Well done to the fans that traveled to Exeter ..its a fair old trek if i recall correctly.
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Cant really blame any player wanting to come to Scunny in their current position and probably aware of just what a wanker Swan is.
Even the players previously affiliated with Hill seem wary jumping aboard a sinking ship that taking in watter weekly and will be sunk well before h the end of the season comes around at this rate.2 users thanked author for this post.
Relegation will be a real shitter …its folding completely and not existing at all that worries me.
Is it me or ?? it comes across as really theres little fight going on from the boardroom to actually stay in the EFL… slightly more on the pitch since Hill arrived but zilch from the owners.
agree with previous post loyal fans have the duty and right to kick off when their club is in a mess and relegation is looming.
selling the club ??? whose gonna buy it and wahts it worth bearing in mind who owns the clubs assets.
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maybe hes skint …. ready cash wise (not on paper)
sighting covid within the business sector as an excuse he may well be broke or saying hes broke.
this does not in any way defend him from the lies and harm he has brought to out club and the current transfer window inactivity confirms how much he really cares …or rather DOES NOT GIVE A TOSS.
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Sorry to hear that Ironfromafar, that’s horrible. We lost one of our regular away day group last year and it was so weird going back to games and seeing the gap where they used to stand.
On Scrimshaw – his finishing looked ok but otherwise I thought he offered virtually nothing – poor control, not much passing, just a lot of running.
Thank you .. a smashing bloke life long fanatical PVFC fan we shall be raising a glass fir him Friday.
Totally agree re Scrimshaw .. the effort was there but lacked in ither departments.
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Robins said he called Billson back through lack of game time, and expects a quick turnaround and redirection to another club to gain the experience he needs.
Fair comment as he did come to Scunny for competitive game time experience which he has not had for what ever reasons.
Scrimshaw ?? obviously not rated by Hill so left out …could be the same as above.
Like to Wood gone and a couple more loaned out … alas non of this means Hill will find any half decent replacements , time is running out.
We need a local crazy Scunny FC fan to win the lotto n buy the club….sorry dreaming again !!
As said before L2 NL .. SUFC are my team through thick n thin its the thought of the club being lost into administration that worries me and its a distinct possibility the way things stand.
Sad day here as yesterday my Friday drinking buddy and wing man passed away .. great guy staunch Port Vale FC fan .. great company i will miss him and our daft football banter terribly.
There are more things to consider in life than being relegated.
Watched ironarmy vlog .. massive shout out to the fans that went to Tranmere and sang their hearts out.
Call it my observation or opinion but looking at the overall current state of things below..
A very young un experienced squad that simply isnt good enough.
An un interested self centered chairman who refused to get rid of an obvious useless manager sooner rather than it was too late
Loft leaving was a dead cert …but not having a replacement is unacceptable.
Hill may walk .. he has managed to get a semi shine on this turd but its full gloss polish we need and a miracle, if Swann doesnt assist during the transfer window expect Hill to say im orf.
Projected points tallies being pure speculation and cant see us reaching anywhere near a total to stay up
I can only see this ending badly and lets not fool ourselves life in the NL is tough and not a given we wont drop further (Southend are struggling) … being a loyal fan i will follow Scunny til the day i die regardless what level they play … alas my main worry is going out of business totally ALA Bury etc and the club being lost forever.
HOPE IM WRONG
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It wouldn’t suprise me to see Hill walk at the end of Jan.
Exactly what i was thinking .. as pointed out Hills post match interview tack has changed and maybe already got one eye on the door realizing he bit off more than he can chew and working with SWan isnt all its cracked up to be.
NL here we come .. and IMO the very real possibility of administration thus oblivion.SAD TIMES INDEED
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Not too fussed hes gone ..but .. Could well come back to haunt us very soon.
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Loft to Colchester im finding strange .. he (Loft) must really want away if its true as its quite possible we could stay up n they could go down.
Im thinking Loft n Hill havent really got on from the outset and an excellent 45 mins last time out hasnt changed that.
I hope Hill can bring in at least 2 or 3 new faces ..strikers mainly also Hackney n Scrimshaw extend.
More so the 6 pointer against Carlisle goes ahead ..but its looking doubtful.I see both Oldham and Stevenage drew over night.. sadly means we are back in the bottom 2 but not bottom.
im away up the jungle til the 2nd Jan ..wishing all Scunny fans a safe and Happy New Year , lets hope 2022 is a better one both on and off the pitch.
UP THE IRON CLARET n BLUE ALL WAY THROUGH.
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Northampton being called off isnt a bad thing as already said can go into the Carlisle game on a high and beat them.
Feeling a lot better after Santa delivered my wish of a win and add to that the codheads going down the NL quicker than Mo Salah or Rahem Sterling in the penalty box.. now what was all that fishy BS earlier in the season of them smashing the NL and coming straight back up ..errr twood appear its all gone pear shaped over on the Cleggy North Sea rivieraBunn up there as the link man with a Loft that can actually be bothered could give teams a lot of problems at this level.
You hit the nail on the head re Loft / Jarvis but it will take more than just a 45 minute solid performance to win me over ..Loft has to produce more regularly and look like he actually is interested in playing for SUFC or not ..playing to get away to pastures new perhaps ???
Hill certainly has managed to get more out of the same group re fitness levels positions certain players are now playing and ability … Hippolyte being the prime example.
Great win ,,i feared the worst after i saw us go i nowt down early but credit where credit is due the guys turned it round and well done .. out of the bottom 2 which in its self puts pressure on others around us ..more so makes the Carlisle fixture huge…and as previously said things will be a whole lot cleaer come mid January
For now enjoy the festive gift of a long awaited win ..lets hope it boosts confidence and we can push on from this result.1 user thanked author for this post.
nothing more clearer than the fact we need a striker or two … just hope Loft gets the chop .. hes just a piss taker along with 3 or 4 others whom Hill hopefully has wormed out .
Pleased to hear Rowe saying the group are happier under Hill as it aint rocket science how just one lightweight shit stirrer in the dressing room can upset the whole apple cart.Again goes back to Cox n Lillis inexperience and lax / weak management. If if if only Swan had got rid sooner.. hindsight is a wonderful thing .
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Hill schmill.
My money is still firmly on non-league for the foreseeable future, many of us will never see a return to league football.
Merry Christmas Swann, you utter turd.Yes sadly pretty much my feelings … depending on the ins and outs next month im holding out a wiff of survival but if push came to shove and using my head not heart i had to put 500 quid on as a bet it would have to be on the Iron going out the league, ans as previously said looking at the NL its very difficult getting out of it again (at the right end.
All i want for Christmas is SUFC league survival … is that too much to ask Santa ??Hope everyone had/has a great Xmas day and a safe and prosperous New Year
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Rover recently filled the away end at Walsal .. and according to a mate saddlers fan best away fans hes seen for a long time.
Its a must win for us .. anything less and January transfers or not it makes the Oldham n Carlisle fixtures even bigger.
AGREE … WORST FRONT LINE EVER AT THE CLUB .
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The Oldham n Carlisle games are massive ..IF IF we can win those its a whole new ball game loose one or both and the writing would be on the wall….WOULD’NT IT ???
I follow the Carlisle YT .. nice young man who was “over the moon” at their away win at Stevenage at the weekend and thinks now they will pull clear and finished comfortable mid table.. as he commented the NYD fixture against Scunny is a must NOT LOOSE game for them.
Only bright side is it appears the Codheads NL honeymoon is over as they are falling down the table quicker than my gran after a bottle of sherry.UP THE IRON …KEEP THE FAITH
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Echo previous post .. IF ONLY Cox n Lillis had be relieved of their duties sooner and Hill in a few weeks / months sooner .. thats hindsight im afraid.
MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT under Kieth hill … but only ANOTHER DRAW .. thats 4 on the bounce in L2 if im not mistaken, whilst great not to loose its wins that are needed and looking at the current table its hard to see a way out of this mess with our current tame strike force and lack of any real threat in the final third…hoping Hill can remedy this in January.
I watched the game on internet as usual and some highlights (use the term loosely) here via YT
also Gareths excellent Ironarmy vlog .. maybe some of you guys are included and well done to the 300 plus who made the trip on a freezing wet n windy day.
Some huge games coming up notably Oldham , Carlisle ..real 6 pointers , in truth every fixture is massive now and come the New Year things will be all the more clearer.. hopefully on a positive side.
For the most part Covid restrictions lifted here from 16th Dec so my business can re open which is great but means more traveling so harder to follow the footy and the forum.
Early i know but wishing all members and Iron fans a safe and happy Christmas and New Year.
Not easy but .. KEEP THE FAITH .. UP THE IRON… CLARET N BLUE ALL WAY THROUGH..
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I think we can all agree that things appear to be heading in the right direction since KH took the reins however, one thing we need to happen quickly is wins!
Whilst improved performances indicate that he’s slowly turning things around we must remember that we need to finish 22nd to avoid being relegated. When we look back at the last few seasons, we can see on average a team needs 47 points to avoid relegation, with both Bristol Rovers and Barnet being relegated with 50 & 51 points respectively. The big question is “How many points do we need this season for safety?”.
Looking at the League 2 table we can see the teams in the relegation battle zone (20th or lower) are all averaging 1 point per game or less. Based on the form from the start of the season we have Carlisle, Oldham and of course us all projected to get less than 40 points for the season. Whilst we could potentially survive the drop on 40 points, I feel that we should be targeting a minimum of 48 points as this would give us a greater chance of avoiding relegation. The issue then becomes how do we get 34 points from the remaining 27 matches? We need KH to start turning this team of dustbins into a cohesive unit quickly so we can start to scrape a few wins and get those points on the board. We were thankful for Orients wasted opportunities last week, and the Bradford match could have gone either way.
December is a very important month for us, and the next two matches could really make or break our season. We need to win the Stevenage match to pull them right into the mix. If we can follow that with an away win at a out of form Hartlepool United (they’ve lost 5 on the bounce) we’ll be able to take some confidence into the Bristol home match, and the very important away match at Oldham on Boxing Day. A few good results this month could see us pull out of the drop zone, and more importantly, drag more teams into the battle. Failing to beat Stevenage and Oldham won’t relegate us, but it will make our job of survival so much harder. I feel that come the end of December we’ll have a much clearer understanding just where we’ll finish come the end of the season!
Add to that Carlisle at home Jan 1st … after that fixture things will be a whole lot clearer more so if we are still in the mix to stay up .. may reflect on the Jan transfer window signings ins n outs.
Re your 48 pt target … yes im more optimistic now , i like Keith Hill but ….48 is a tall order and im thinking 40 to 45 max which may or may not be enough ..i doubt it will be.
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many accurate comments added overnight all of which i agree with .. (i watched on tinernet then always check out Gareths ironarmy vlog Sunday mornings.)
Way better performance great first half.
more desire effort n fight
Fitness improving
100% we would of lost both Orient n Bradford under Cox
it was a joke for months with Cox and players took the piss .. now with Hill thats changed , experience and hes got the number of the likes of Loft.
weather a huge factor
my lingering though (in hindsight) if only Swan had got Hill in a month or two earlier ??
next run of games are winnable and im crossing everything even my ears we can pick up enough points to get out and away from the bottom zone ..
Carlisle won today which isnt great as apparently they played a lot better than they have been.
I watched a local match here and its not good terrible bent officials and players with egos like Loft but worse YES WORSE who spend more time rolling around slightly injured breaks up play n spoils it massively. ..really miss the buzz of attending UK/Scunny games and i urge all fans that can go to GP to go and get behind the lads.
a month ago i was doom n gloom .. we looked down but after recent games something is changing and there is hope.. Hill could save us and i like how he makes decisions re Hackney etc Cox would have dithered as too nice guy..Hill is experienced organized and ruthless as Mr Loft is hopefully gonna find out come the New Year.
Try to get Ohara another good call , be interesting to see what happens in January ..hopefully we will still be in touch and able to stay in the league.UP THE IRON
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