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I think we can all agree that things appear to be heading in the right direction since KH took the reins however, one thing we need to happen quickly is wins!
Whilst improved performances indicate that he’s slowly turning things around we must remember that we need to finish 22nd to avoid being relegated. When we look back at the last few seasons, we can see on average a team needs 47 points to avoid relegation, with both Bristol Rovers and Barnet being relegated with 50 & 51 points respectively. The big question is “How many points do we need this season for safety?”.
Looking at the League 2 table we can see the teams in the relegation battle zone (20th or lower) are all averaging 1 point per game or less. Based on the form from the start of the season we have Carlisle, Oldham and of course us all projected to get less than 40 points for the season. Whilst we could potentially survive the drop on 40 points, I feel that we should be targeting a minimum of 48 points as this would give us a greater chance of avoiding relegation. The issue then becomes how do we get 34 points from the remaining 27 matches? We need KH to start turning this team of dustbins into a cohesive unit quickly so we can start to scrape a few wins and get those points on the board. We were thankful for Orients wasted opportunities last week, and the Bradford match could have gone either way.
December is a very important month for us, and the next two matches could really make or break our season. We need to win the Stevenage match to pull them right into the mix. If we can follow that with an away win at a out of form Hartlepool United (they’ve lost 5 on the bounce) we’ll be able to take some confidence into the Bristol home match, and the very important away match at Oldham on Boxing Day. A few good results this month could see us pull out of the drop zone, and more importantly, drag more teams into the battle. Failing to beat Stevenage and Oldham won’t relegate us, but it will make our job of survival so much harder. I feel that come the end of December we’ll have a much clearer understanding just where we’ll finish come the end of the season!
Add to that Carlisle at home Jan 1st … after that fixture things will be a whole lot clearer more so if we are still in the mix to stay up .. may reflect on the Jan transfer window signings ins n outs.
Re your 48 pt target … yes im more optimistic now , i like Keith Hill but ….48 is a tall order and im thinking 40 to 45 max which may or may not be enough ..i doubt it will be.
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many accurate comments added overnight all of which i agree with .. (i watched on tinernet then always check out Gareths ironarmy vlog Sunday mornings.)
Way better performance great first half.
more desire effort n fight
Fitness improving
100% we would of lost both Orient n Bradford under Cox
it was a joke for months with Cox and players took the piss .. now with Hill thats changed , experience and hes got the number of the likes of Loft.
weather a huge factor
my lingering though (in hindsight) if only Swan had got Hill in a month or two earlier ??
next run of games are winnable and im crossing everything even my ears we can pick up enough points to get out and away from the bottom zone ..
Carlisle won today which isnt great as apparently they played a lot better than they have been.
I watched a local match here and its not good terrible bent officials and players with egos like Loft but worse YES WORSE who spend more time rolling around slightly injured breaks up play n spoils it massively. ..really miss the buzz of attending UK/Scunny games and i urge all fans that can go to GP to go and get behind the lads.
a month ago i was doom n gloom .. we looked down but after recent games something is changing and there is hope.. Hill could save us and i like how he makes decisions re Hackney etc Cox would have dithered as too nice guy..Hill is experienced organized and ruthless as Mr Loft is hopefully gonna find out come the New Year.
Try to get Ohara another good call , be interesting to see what happens in January ..hopefully we will still be in touch and able to stay in the league.UP THE IRON
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I hope Swan will splash some cash in January ..alas realistically i dont see it happening .. cant even be arsed to chuck in the funds to fix the scoreboard at GP… hopefully as previously posted we will still be in touch with others. its already looking like a 3 horse relegation battle as it stands now.
UP THE IRON
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A points gap is starting to appear and IMO by January we may have missed the boat regardless who Hill signs .. Carlisle also looking bad whilst Oldham do still have enough to scrap a win or two. Hopefully any other clubs will fall away and go on a loosing streak ..thats our only chance to stay up with this current mob.. if i were a betting man sadly it would be in us dropping out the league this year.
i watched the “Highlights” and i use the term loosely .. also the excellent Ironarmy YT vlog as Gareth is always fair n balanced.
Fans were great .. team and performance shambolic defending and piss weak attack.
Wilson not getting a sniff ..not even keeping the bench warm.
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spot on post WG .. something has changed .. hindsight is a wonderful thing what if Swan had ditched Cox / Lillis n got Hill in a month sooner??
Im guessing more will come out in the future as to just how piss poor Cox actions and management style were.Up the Iron
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Be interesting to see Mr Hills team formation n personal chosen.
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This got me thinking about the past Scunny fan chants .. all be it i now watch via livestream how quiet the fans are nowadays .. totally understandable with attendances dwindling and not a lot to cheer in recent times… any atmosphere creating noise is welcome even if it possibly contains a bit of soft racist banter .. ” wings of a sparrow arse of a cow ” ..alas in the UK today indeed many other countries society appears all to woke and having recently watched some old episodes of Little Britain , Love Thy Neighbour and Til death do us part it compounds my opinion how silly things have become.
sorry if on wrong thread btw ..dont wanna upset anyone 5555
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I used to do the markets in Scunny ,York ,Donny Sheffield and Cleethorpes and had / still have a few very good traveler mates in and around Lincs n West Yorkshire area , for more reasons than i wish to state gimme a pikey over a dingy diver any day.
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The thought that COVID is the main cause re stay away fans is at best an excuse or a cop out not wanting to recognize the real reason which is no buggar likes to go watch their team loose week in week out whilst loosing with out a fight and effort.
I am not based in the UK so cannot comment on the Covid situation there but now i very much doubt more than a hand full are staying away due to it .. i may be wrong.
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During his tenture seems a few of Cox choices were strange including his reluctance to give Wilson etc a run out .. he obviously had his favourites. Hopefully being more experiences at this level (in general) dont think we will see the same from Hill .. he has a big job on his hands sorting the wheat from the chaff ..or the semi chaff from the chaff, we may not see Hippolyte play for a while if the rumors are correct on Hills thoughts on him.
Went to the Meeting and Swann totally focused on getting the missing 1000 back.
I m also not impressed with what’s going on to attract people back who they are convinced don’t come mainly from Covid related reasons.
Seem to pinning a lot of hope on this survey but when asked how many had replied no one seemed certain ! Then 400 mentioned but survey still open.
When suggestions put forward to attract new fans there always seemed a reason why they could nt do it. It might have been an idea if one of the Team with Mr Swann had taken notes of suggestions put to them !
Not doing this gives the impression not really interested in what was said to them! Mind you the Meeting was half over before the other 3 were introduced and that was only after someone asked who they were !
They did not seem to grasp or want to that there are a lot of other factors besides Covid that have lost the 1000 fans.
Hill turning this lot into a Football Team seems to be their plan
The Meeting was told by Mr Swann that something is happening at Board Level in the next couple of weeks.The selling of shares perhaps ????
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Re the missing 1000 … a combination of
Shit football
No one likes to constantly watch crap football and your team loosing week in week out.Dislike of owners .. keeping disgruntled fans away.
Overall are the club are offering a shit product ?? ..match day experience , crap food and a depressing atmos etc , former regular fans will find other ways to spend a Saturday afternoon .. cutting the grass, going the bingo , a tupperware party or painting the spare bedroom more enticing.
Covid and the economic effect
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When you stand back and look at the loan signings and crocks that have come into the club it makes you wonder who sanctioned these deals and were the players checked out medically and to a certain extent rated at all for their talents… Bunn Kenyon amongst others need shipping out ASAP.
Re yesterday ..first have was decent .. second useless , in truth probably a good chance for Hill to see waht hes working with 555 .. a cup run would ov been nice but not overly bothered we are out.ironarmy Gareth summed it up well on his YT channel…always follow his vids.
IMO Loft just waiting to leave , others on longer contracts just taking the piss i really hope
Hill can find some way of turning things around as IF thats IF we go out the league it could well be years before we return looking at the strength and money NL clubs now have at their disposal.Maybe get the youngsters ( Wilson etc ) in cos at the mo their are only 4 or 5 players who should be pulling on the shirt come match days.
No confirmation what Swann has promised Hill on a budget to bring in players now (free agents) or in January but its a fact there are plenty that need to leave.
Next league fixture will be very interesting to see not only the line up but if the players chosen show any change in desire or effort.
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Out at the first hurdle.It’s the Iron way, don’t y’know.
YEP sadly thats my prediction as well … a cup run would be handy for the added cash but really staying in the football league is way more important and be able to give Hurst and all the cods fans the finger IF we avoid relegation as they are being particularly vocal on the Iron being doomed already with Hurst speaking carefully to the media re the subject… i caught a sense of glee in his warblings.
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