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  • in reply to: Keeper on trial #288566
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    Strange one… I can’t see us carrying 3 GK’s this season on our vastly reduced budget.

    in reply to: Scunthorpe 2.0 #288565
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    A week in the sun on the Costa Brava and I’ve recovered from Euro 24 heartbreak. Hurt less than Scunny losing in the play offs at GP anyway.

    Flanks exposed playing three at the back and wingers who aren’t wing-backs.

    AB take note!

    AGREE!

    I’d really like to see us bring in a seasoned wing back if we are to make any more signings.

    in reply to: Game on New Year’s Eve #288562
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    My season ticket is starting to look a tad expensive now, as I can’t make Tuesday night games and NYE is another I’ll have to miss unless I take annual leave. I understand the clubs take on the extra costs but surely this is the same for every other club in the league (and the leagues above) that are hosting on NYD? I think Michelle and the board have banked enough goodwill for most fans to let this one go but changing ‘traditional’ fixtures is slightly irritating to those that have bought season tickets in advance of the fixtures being released.

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    in reply to: Keeper on trial #288561
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    Can anyone at the game confirm if Fitzsimons is on the bench?

    in reply to: Barton #288059
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    Paranoid by Black Sabbath, great song.

    To be expected I suppose after all of the ‘burner’ accounts across the various social media pages but on this occasion Deerey is a little wide of the mark as I’m just a grumpy fan who’s a little fed up as the reality of our financial predicament has started to bite!

    in reply to: Recruitment #288057
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    Is questioning Lee Turnbull’s contribution to our club really that negative? Given there’s been no football to discuss recently all the discussion is centred around recruitment which most fans in both here and the ‘cult page’ have found to be rather disappointing. Maybe you have a narrative or motive given you are so positive about our recruitment. Are you Mr Turnbull himself? Tell me, do you think our recruitment has been good in the last 6 years?

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    I certainly trust that the board have all the business side of things taken care of, after all they are successful business people. That doesn’t mean that they are exempt from making mistakes and none of them have much experience in running a football club. Take the pitch hire for example. Having to cancel the Bradford friendly and the loss of income that game would have generated vs the small amount we generated through pitch hire which delayed starting the renovations sooner. As a club we probably called that one wrong but after everything Michelle and the board have done they can be afforded a few mistakes. Maybe they see something in Turnbull or maybe he’s going to unearth some gems this season. But if his performance doesn’t improve with regards to recruitment and whilst we’re clearing house I personally would like to see the last of the Swann / WHAM era with his departure.

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    Just calling a spade a spade Deerey. When the seasons underway if we are playing good football the tone of my posts will certainly change. For what it’s worth I’m extremely positive about the board and all of the excellent work going on with off the pitch business. And I am certainly not the only one to have felt underwhelmed with recruitment and that the team MAY struggle this year. Sorry to disappoint Deerey but I’m just calling it as I see it. No scooby-doo style unmasking to be done here but for entertainment purposes please do share where your great detective work has led you… am I Hilton? Maybe I’m Swann? Or Elliott? Oh no it was another poster on here that you accused of being Elliott wasn’t it?!

    in reply to: Squad Size #288048
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    I think the targets were those already signed. The most recent update regards signings was Lee Turnbull’s interview a week or so ago and he seemed to indicate any more signings would come from the trialists plus a few loans. With Butlers connections at Doncaster I could see us taking a few players on loan from them.

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    in reply to: Recruitment #288046
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    I’ve not ‘got it in for’ anyone Deerey but as in any job, a club employee should be judged on performance. The board have done a sterling job of securing the club, the ground, clearing debt and taking care of the business side of things. Glyn is seemingly doing a lot of great work with the sponsorships and generating revenue through those avenues. I’m just not seeing what value Turnbull adds but if you know otherwise please enlighten me? If a player had performed poorly for the last 8 years would we keep resigning him again and again? If we had spare cash to splash maybe we could afford to carry the salaries of people who aren’t contributing but for me Turnbull isn’t bringing enough to the table to justify what is no doubt a sizeable salary.

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    It goes without saying that im not happy with Turnbull running (or seems to be) the show.
    I know from what people have said Butler cant speak very well but I like the manager to do all the recruiting and be the front man,don’t get me wrong Turnbull has brought some stars in the past so if he’s found a gem great, but his last few years with Swanny recruiting was disastrous.

    Does anyone know what Turnbull actually does? If he’s just assisting with recruitment he’s not doing a very good job. The only decent signing we’ve made is Carlton, and he’s come in via Butler as a former team mate. The scatter gun approach to recruitment during the second half of last season was poor too, bringing in players that Dean clearly didn’t want or intend to play, Leesley, lad from Bradford etc?

    Our recruitment under Swann during the latter years was dire to say the least and when you look at the better players we’ve had in recent times they all have links back via the manager. Think Turnbull is riding on the Hooper and Sharp days but those are long gone and his performance recruitment wise has been pretty abysmal for the best part of a decade.

    We say Muzzy always manages to avoid the chop but perhaps Turnbull is the turd that won’t flush? He’s been a constant throughout the downward trajectory we’ve been on for the last 6 years, barring his short spell at Bradford where he flopped and was sacked after 10 months. He was also right hand man to both Swanny and WHAM, yet all is forgiven?

    He must be commanding a fair salary too. With Andy’s connections within football and the board running the business side of things is Turnbull really bringing anything to the table? A new broom sweeps clean and hopefully it sweeps in Turnbull direction soon and we can redirect his salary back to the playing budget.

    in reply to: Squad Size #287905
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    So far IMO .. we are looking like a pretty average NLN bunch AT THE MOMENT ,, things may change my opinion in the next week or so but into July should be more activity.

    Another very quiet week down at AAGP on the signings front. Maybe we’re waiting to end of July to save a months wages? Times are hard!

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    I didn’t make the Barton game but a pal of mine did so I’ve had a run down. 3/5/2 was my predicted formation given the absence of any wingers being signed and considering Law and Robert’s are so often out of action. I think 3/5/2 is preferable to the out of fashion 4/4/2 that some were crying out for under Jimmy. The trouble is 3/5/2 can quickly become 5/3/2 and I’m not sure Denton, Kelly or Barrows are really wingbacks. Will be interesting to see how Robert’s will fit into the team if we’re playing without wingers, considering he’s our most eye-wateringly expensive signing he will have to play (when fit!), assuming as the 10.

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    Very tough opening game. August will be a test for butlers boys but might help to set some realistic expectations for the season ahead I.E give wondergoals a reality check!

    in reply to: Recruitment #287750
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    Who do you think are ‘bin dippers’?

    All of them barring Hunter. I’m assuming (hoping!) they are just here to make up the numbers in training and so we can do 11 v 11, given we only have 18 under contract currently.

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    Crikey you know our business has been underwhelming when pie quality is the topic of conversation on the recruitment thread. Hopefully we will be serving up some ‘custard pies’ soon… to our so called trialists.

    Well you could certainly stand in as Coco the Clown to do the pie throwing, based on some of your contributions so far on this forum.

    Happily do so if it means ‘pieing off’ the bin dippers!

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    Crikey you know our business has been underwhelming when pie quality is the topic of conversation on the recruitment thread. Hopefully we will be serving up some ‘custard pies’ soon… to our so called trialists.

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    Hang on a minute 414 .. no no no i wont have that !! we havent tried his pies yet..

    You’re right IFA… I shall try said pies and report back… however he does come with a proven track record, a stellar reputation and high praise from his last club… which is more than can be said for our most recent signings!

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    Well that was the week that was, 1 player in and 3 non players ‘really’ even then the player in will only be a bench warmer (hopefully). Imo they should have held back their marquee signings back.

    Which Marquee signings were those AWG? Surely Max & Fish aren’t our idea of marquees now? They are bench players at best. Our most impressive signing thus far is the pie man from Hull.

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    in reply to: Squad Size #287713
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    Do any of them play in the Spanish 3rd tier? I must have missed their spectacular implosion of so, especially since they managed to qualify for European football pretty much every season.

    Typical WG only reading the first two lines of a post before jumping in with a load of nonsense. You’ve been caught with your pants down again WonderBalls!

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    Chester doing exactly as I’d hoped we would do, but it appears we are rewriting the script and going with a more direct physical approach.
    Brackley are my favourites to win the league this year. They have kept hold of the core of their squad and even their midfielder Bates who was announced as leaving, did a U-turn and resigned last week. If only our midfield maestro did the same. I know, I know… we can no longer afford players of that class but c’mon… the lads we’ve got on trial… surely we can do better?

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    in reply to: Scunthorpe 2.0 #287687
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    Penalties… we might see tears from CR7 again!

    in reply to: Scunthorpe 2.0 #287685
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    France and Portugal both looking very hard to break down.

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    Did you miss my post at 2.03pm as I’ve answered the points you keep labouring over in there WG. There’s no denying we were not good enough last year hence finishing 2nd and missing out on promotion. There’s also no denying we are on paper a worse football team this year, with little cover for injuries despite having a fair amount of injury prone players, playing in a division with tougher competition than last season with an unproven manager. The only ‘harping on’ is you about ‘coming back from losing positions’. I’d say our lack of a plan B when our plan A wasn’t working last season, was a weakness probably more attributable to the manager and his tactics rather than the players themselves that you seem to be blaming.

    You’ve completely got your head in the sand Wonder Goals. It’s a fact that we’ve lost our two best players. Not my opinion but the opinion of all the iron fans that voted Ogle and Butterfield as our best players the last 2 years. Facts don’t lie but the crack pipe does. Put it down and step away slowly.

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    in reply to: Recruitment #287674
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    Butterfield irreplaceable,what a joke.We have had far better players at a higher level level and often replaced them ,so a guy who faded in NLN is more than replaceable

    Back in the glory days maybe 64. At NLN we won’t get anyone anywhere near his quality. Have you seen the shower we’ve got on trial?

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    WG yes you are missing something. Your marbles if you think we have a better squad without the aforementioned and with the addition of the nobody’s we’ve signed so far.

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    Whoops evidently we’ve got a kitlady, hope she likes traditional songs.

    Can she play on the wing?

    in reply to: Running Picture Of Players #287661
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    Corbett gone to Aldershot

    Thats a real shame was hoping he would return to Scunny… was an attempt made by LT / the club to get him ??

    My guess would be NO.
    Corbett is a solid Tesco product. Not quite Waitrose or M&S but might push Tesco finest.
    We are shopping at Aldi… in the reduced to clear section.

    in reply to: Recruitment #287654
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    Results will have more effect than quality. If we’re playing well and losing and not challenging for auto promotion the gates might drop off. You seem obsessed about the loss of two players that don’t make a team. If it’s not quite as pretty but we’re digging in, players are putting shifts in and challenging for promotion; thats what people want, not hanging on for a Butterfield worldie.

    You are correct Deerey results have the biggest impact. I’m just not feeling too optimistic about either results or how we are shaping up to play.

    It’s not just the loss of our two best players, it’s the loss of other good footballers and the lack of any quality coming in to replace those that have departed. There’s been no real excitement over any of our signings and a general feeling of underwhelm on the football side of things. It’s quite telling that the announcement of one players exit has had a vast amount more fan engagement than all four of our incomings combined.

    Whilst seasoned fans might be happy with ‘digging in’ the fair weathers and younger generation want a bit of excitement and they are here for the ‘worldies’. A lad I met last year told me he’d been bringing his 10 year old son to most home games as his son had become a real young die hard after the Brackley game. No guesses who his favourite player was.

    If we are challenging for promotion all will be well but removing the rose tinted spectacles for a second that is a very big IF. There is still hope that the club have a surprise rabbit to pull out of the hat in the next week or so as I’m struggling to believe we will sign more than 1 of the trialists we currently have training with us.

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    in reply to: Recruitment #287653
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    WG if you are trying to tell me that you think we’re a better football team without Ogle, Butterfield, Elliott and DSF you must have been hitting the hard stuff again.

    Butterfield didn’t slow down, we lost momentum after January, no coincidence that coincided with losing Butterfield to concussion protocols and Whitehall to match suspensions. We looked nervous as the gap with Tamworth started to widen and tactical mistakes from the manager along with a lack of plan B didn’t help either. As a previous poster pointed out he played 90 minutes in more games toward the end of the season than he did in the first half so I don’t see fitness being a factor as you’re alluding to. I was at every home game bar 2 last season and he was the best player on the pitch in most of those games.

    We went a goal down in 12 league games last season and came back to get something from 4 of them; Tamworth away, Chester at home, Hereford away and Gloucester away. I don’t think that’s too bad. But you are right, ultimately we weren’t good enough last season and we blew our best shot to go up.

    I’d still have rather built on last season as despite the bitter ending I found it enjoyable for the first time in a long while as a Scunthorpe fan. The ‘pretty football’ when it worked was great to watch. I think with a bit more fitness, tactical nous and plan B for a more physical approach when the pretty stuff wasn’t working we would have had a good chance.

    Finances have dictated where we are now at. Michelle said herself Butlers appointment was a financial decision. Affordable manager, bargain signings and in your own words swapping quality for ‘hard work’.

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