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Yeah, I thought they made a good start yesterday. Which is surprising as numerous supporters crow about Butler not making one good signing.
You say that as though it’s unjustified and our recruitment has been good (or even average) Deerey? I know you like to ooze positivity but come on, this seasons recruitment has been nothing short of abysmal and even you know it.
Let’s give the new boys a few weeks of Butlers expert ‘coaching’ and then see how they look. After all, he has a habit of snuffing out any initial promise in every one of his new recruits. Nicholson looked the business in the first few games now can’t even make the bench, Carlton scoring for fun in preseason now couldn’t hit a barn door, even Beck was the bright spark in an otherwise embarrassing showing against Rylands, now… well the less said the better.
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Obvious click bait 64 but I’ll humour you. In short , No ‘the rest aren’t crap’. Clearly it’s relative to budget, resources and the clubs objectives for any given season. For some survival might be the remit so finishing 20th would be deemed a success.
In the case of SUFC; Biggest budget in the league, best facilities in the league (sandpit aside), one of only a handful of full time set ups and a clear remit of ‘promotion a must’. We are currently underachieving and if we fail to go up would that mean Butler is crap? In short Yes.
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Seems like we’re back to bin dipping again after blowing the last of the budget on Beck.
Probably too much expectation on Brogan from the start, with some dreamers labelling him as a replacement for Butterfield, BUT he did show flashes of quality and was one of the more creative of the summer signings so no surprise that he doesn’t fit into Butlers hoof and hope setups.
The recruitment this season is the worst I can recall.
3 strikers signed, one loaned out (twice) and the other 2 yet to register a single goal between them – unbelievable.
3 midfielders, one made of glass and the other two have failed to get regular starts and subsequently one shipped out on loan.
A defender who, for the promise he showed in the first fistful of games, has made some howlers that would embarrass a pub player on a Sunday morning kick about and now can’t make the team.
Now we’re coming to the crunch point of the season where a strong character with some experience of what it takes to get out of this league wouldn’t go amiss, so we bring in two 18 year olds who’ve not registered a single senior start between them.
A recruitment specialist has to be a priority, but better still would be a decent manager who has an eye for a player and can do his own recruiting.
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Remind me who our Sports Psychologist is… he/she ain’t listed on the staff list.
It’s Supermod, he’s doing it pro-bono so you won’t find him on the payroll.
He bigs up the players and staff on here whilst simultaneously shooting down anyone who raises any questions over their abilities, in the hope they log on to read it and pump up their confidence.
He’s a bloody genius! Let’s get him nominated for the next Nobel Prize award.
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I was referring to the person iron414 said was ‘done over’ (according to 64) when the new owners took over from Hilton.
Pardon? I’m certain I’ve never said such. Show me where?
I don’t think you need to be some sort of expert to know that coaching can help players. Even if they are 31.
Coaching perhaps, Butler’s coaching probably not. Which of our players have improved under his ‘coaching’? None, they are all individually equal or worse than previous seasons and the team as a whole is markedly worse. The only ones that could be argued as improved are Fitz, who’s coached by Muzzy or Cal Robert’s, who, it’s fairly obvious, has always had stacks of ability but has been hampered by injuries.
In any case I think Rene’s sentiment is that Beck was not brought in at 31 as a development player. If we wanted a player who needed coaching in order to contribute with goals I’m sure we could have got one for free. Alas we’ve paid for ‘ready to go’ now we’re been told by the oracle of wisdom supermod, that he needs to coached first. Hopefully Michelle paid on her credit card and we can get a refund under section 75 ‘misrepresentation of goods’
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If the suggestion is that Butler has the ability to mentally ‘unblock’ our strikers maybe he should have worked his magic on Carlton given he’s been ‘coached’ by Butler for the last 7 months and is still yet to register a single goal.
Perhaps you should offer your services as the club shrink seen as you’re so well versed in the subject Deerey. Michelle’s partial to a back office appointment and you seem like you could do with a new gig seen as you’ve spent all day arguing on the forum yet again. Change is as good as a rest, so they say.
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Cheers and same to you IFA. It was a busy Christmas in 414 house with kids their families round and a post-NY overseas trip to see my daughter. I did pop my head in only to find majority of the conversation around Maw vs Ellis, slagging off of Iron Hour, Jerry, Earl and so on, so I quickly retreated back to my sun lounger with a cold pint. Same reason I avoid participating on the FB page.
Agree with your 7th-10th prediction, it’s extremely tight and plenty with games still in hand.Going well? Good to see you’re still easily pleased Deerey. For a lot of us it’s going to take more than a 45 minutes of good football per 20 odd games to be convinced after the utter dross we’ve seen for majority of this season.
The seven unbeaten run is a good PR spin, but not exactly the achievement it’s being hailed as:-
A 0-0 draw at home to Alfreton, one of the worst games seen by many at GP.
A 0-0 draw at home to Hereford, subpar and painfully dull.
Another 0-0 bore draw against part time Darlington.
A piss poor performance and skin of the teeth last minute 2-1 win to the league whipping boys Marine, by an arguably undeserved penalty.The reality is; there was only one acceptable performance in those 7 games. But after some of the horror shows we’ve seen this season (Rylands, Alfreton, Guisley to name but a few) the bar has been set so low that anything better than ‘utterly shite’ is now deemed an ‘improvement’ even if we’re still very poor.
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A loss to bottom of the league Rushall to kick off 2025 with a
bangwhimper. Seems the KL performance was a red herring, a la Kiddy at the seasons start, but alas normality is resumed.Had a great chance to really put a mark down following the Kings Lynn game and instead serve up one of the worst league results in our history.
Love the club but it’s hard work at times
Spot on, always one step forward followed by two back. Suppose we should be grateful for one decent half of football every half season?
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:Paid a fee for Beck and he came on a 2y contract’
Is he? Had to check official club platforms because I don’t recall it being stated as 2 years. Can’t find anywhere saying it is. Permanent contract yes. Maybe I missed some detail about it?
Wondergoal has always just made crap up.It’s how he makes sense of himself,he never let’s the truth get in the way of anything
https://x.com/humbersidesport/status/1857855555961766386?s=46&t=Qv8lWfaqiDCnLnYpnf-vPQ
Confirmed in the above interview at 5m30s.
Contracted until end of 25/26 season.Don’t take it personally WG, I’m sure an apology from 64 will be imminent. Perhaps if our supermods spent more time listening to the information that comes directly from the club rather than picking fights and squabbling like teenage girls with other forum members, they might not need to unnecessarily insult those offering accurate and relevant facts.
Regarding Beck, he’s been woeful thus far, though in fairness we’ve only recently started to play a system which ‘should’ suit him. But watching the miss back from Saturday, Mrs. 414 would have put that away and she’s on a waiting list for a knee op.
Some on FB fans page suggesting he’s the worst player in SUFC history. Perhaps an exaggeration but when you consider the level, I reckon he’s up there.
Maybe Turnbull got wind the axe was about to fall in his direction and Beck on a 2 season deal was his parting gift and a big middle finger to us. Either that or Butler has got zero ability to spot a player (likely given the rest of the summer flops).
On the topic of summer recruits, Brogan didn’t make the bench yesterday, even with a midfield spot opened up by Scales covering at RB. Injured or out of favour?
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Our manager will be happy with the deterioration of the pitch as it will serve as another excuse as to why we’re persisting with his only style of play; longball. Michelle said during an interview in the summer she’d negotiated a great deal to have the pitch renovated. Perhaps she drove the bargain a little too hard and so corners were cut in order to keep the job profitable.
What’s that saying again… ‘Buy cheap buy twice’.
Same quote can be applied to the management appointments and all of this seasons signings.
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There not shouting loud enough yet cos its fell on deaf ears from Butlers interview, he sees the last 5 games as progression..
Nobody is taken in by the delusional post match interviews (aside from perhaps the board given Butler is still clinging onto the job). His attempts to rewrite history by describing a game entirely different to what we’ve just watched is cringeworthy. Does he really think he can gloss over how shit we played by spoon feeding us a few cherry picked stats and sound bites about hard fought points and tough opposition? It’s the same bull week in week out and most of us are now sick to death of it.
Pains me to say but the cods manager Artell spoke just before Butler on Humberside and the stark contrast in their interviews was humbling. He provided what sounded like an honest and accurate assessment, accepting they were rubbish but spoke professionally and sounded like a proper coach. Butler in comparison sounded like a pissed up, rose-tinted spectacle adorning fan, who should have been speaking on Gareth’s reaction vlog with a pint in hand, rather than live on Humberside.
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Dire game of football as has come to be the norm at GP on a Saturday afternoon. The fact that the only positive is a marginal improvement on Alfreton, described by many as the worst game of football ever seen at GP, says it all. As always; hoofball, square pegs round holes (Whitehall as a 10 I ask you?), zero creativity, looking devoid of ideas and Fitz MOM saving us from blushes yet again.
Not sure on the accuracy of the attendance figure reported. Lots of empty seats and little atmosphere. Are season tickets counted even if the holders don’t turn up?
Butler’s ‘we’re not the finished article’ line is worn out. He’s had a full preseason, two cups and were half way through the league games so when do we expect to see the ‘finished article’? The last game of the season when we’re floating around mid table perhaps? We’ve taken a giant leap backwards from last seasons football and have fallen off a cliff results wise from our first 10 games so this analogy of us being a work-in-progress, as though we’re improving each game is more waffle. We still don’t know our best 11, we still don’t have a style of play (unless it’s hoof and hope) and we still don’t know our best formation or how to get a tune out of the best squad in the league. We’re on a downward trajectory under Butler and the board are merely prolonging the agony for supporters and decimating the goodwill they banked, with their silence and inaction.
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3 points is 3 points but listening on the wireless it sounded like an 80 minute extension of the Alfreton game with a very soft penalty to gift us the win.
Any positives that could be taken from the game (and aside from the result there were very few) were subsequently obliterated by Butler’s PR disaster-class Humberside interview. A very foolish move which only serves to reinforce the view that he’s not that bright. Make no mistake, the disdain he showed Turner, was equally directed towards the fans. Throw in the post match summary ‘outside noise’ comment and the approach appears to be bollocks to unity and the fans that raised tens of thousands to save the club and buy a record number of season tickets. The win somewhat papers the cavernous cracks, but it’s clear to all that his days are numbered.
From Alfreton, the worst game seen at GP in most of our lifetimes, to this week’s worst interview ever given by an SUFC manager? Who needs Santa Claus when Butler is the gift that keeps on giving this festive season.
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