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The Tories are finished, but people’s political choices never fail to amaze. Here we are in one of the poorest regions of the country, with a lot of elderly, infirm and unemployed folk, many of whom are highly dependent on the state, and what happens? In the last election they voted for a party dedicated to making the state smaller, to cutting benefits, and ultimately making themselves poorer and struggle even more for operations, transport, financial support, and care of all kinds.
So, the message to Tory MPs is quite clear. There is a way back. They should promise to banish the state altogether, close all the hospitals, withdraw all benefits, and let the free market rip. This would lead to an even greater improverishment of North Lincs., more boarded up shops, higher levels of crime and violence, and no emergency, health or social services whatsoever, all of which would lead to a sudden reversal of Tory fortunes and a landslide victory at the next election.
Trebles all round!
Just come in so haven’t taken in the replies to my last post. Maybe in the morning. Meanwhile ….
Hi Gurney You made 4 points so I’ll answer each one then add a bit more.
1. The idiocy was never about ‘not making good decisions’. It was about the most powerful and influential man on the planet making a series of awful, abysmal ones.
2. Energy. The Green New Deal. Yep. You nailed it. I disapprove ..almost to the point of despair .. of Biden’s Green energy policy. (My first real ‘outing’ in the bag, Gurney). A policy that helps to plunge hundreds of millions ..not just in the USA but across the Globe.. into energy poverty and distress; that enhances Putin’s capabilities; that gives unbounded joy to the CCP; that not only doesn’t help the environment but actually makes it worse. Genius!
3. Sidey may differ from me in some perspectives but he definitely shares my advocacy of fairness. You might ask yourself, Gurney, why all your contextual skills and undoubted intellect go sailing down the Swanee whenever my faith comes into view. For example … why did I refer to Feminist voices on Afghanistan. Is it because, as you said, my focus is solely on Christians? Are you under the illusion that Feminists mainly advocate for the disciples of Jesus? The idiocy in Afghanistan was that it had all the hallmarks of a woefully uninformed and hastily conceived grab for a ‘political trophy’ with scant regard for women, minorities, those who helped the allies … and ‘apostates’ now fleeing death because of their Christian faith. To pull troops out first! Idiocy. To leave allies scrambling! Idiocy. To leave tens of billions worth of state of the art weaponry. Idiocy. To consider the Taliban honourable and reliable partners. Idiocy. To signal to nasty, malevolent regimes across the Globe that the US is either naïve or spineless. Idiocy. I think you catch my drift.
4. No. I don’t endorse criminal behaviour. Whether it is storming Capitol buildings, looting and torching black owned stores and businesses, influence peddling for millions of Chinese lucre or fabricating narratives to discredit political opponents I am firmly on the side of accountability. It’s not for nothing that Justice wears her blindfold … and so should we all be impartial and consistent in our zeal for truth and justice.
Finally …. The Big Reveal. Have I ever mentioned that I am a Christian.? Probably.(Groan) I believe in the sanctity of human life and so am not a fan of abortion. I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. I believe that there is such a thing as a man and a woman. I believe in social justice. I celebrate the wonderful racial and cultural diversity on the planet. I love freedom of thought and freedom of speech. I believe in respectful and honest discourse. I don’t believe in labelling or mocking or cancelling people who have different opinions. And I’m probably more to the right than the left … with a bit of movement in between on some issues. Thats me out of the closet .. if I was ever in it.So, that’s quite a plea, JI! Let’s summarise:
You think Biden is not just an idiot but idiot of the year, because:
a) You don’t like his decisions (n.b. this isn’t a REASON for idiocy, it’s your own opinion of his premiership).b) You don’t like his policy on decarbonising the biggest energy consumer in the world, and weaning the country off fossil fuels because it implies poverty for the many. Yet, not to pursue that policy means even greater and more serious threat to the denizens of the world. Well, in short, what’s needed is a new politics whereby the poorest nations don’t pay for the consequences the richest nations’ consumption habits. Carrying on as we are would be to ignore the consequences of climate change, which really would be idiotic.
c) You think Biden should not have completed the process of withdrawal from Afghanistan which Trump started, because human rights of all kinds were being violated by Taliban. I rather think he’d be damned if he did and damned if he didn’t withdraw. It’s a thankless task either way, particularly as the troops’ presence wouldn’t be able to guarantee safety. But my main point is that being caught on the horns of this dilemma and choosing either option, is not a qualification for idiocy.
d) Unity and reconciliation? Your plea doesn’t mention it other than to say there should be accountability. So, where does Biden’s alleged idiocy enter into it?
Incidentally, as a practising Christian you might take issue with the expression ‘fossil fuels’. Fossils are usually over 10,000 years old, considerably older than the bible suggests for the age of the earth. How on earth does a practising Catholic reconcile that?
As for the final flood of virtuousness at the end, it’s all very nice. But, it’s also quite general – for example ‘freedom of speech’ could well be interpreted to mean freedom to disparage and lie about whoever and whatever you like! Abortion? Well I’m not a “fan” either. I don’t think anyone is a “fan” (bad choice of words), but I respect a woman’s right to choose. A deafening silence from you on the death penalty tho’.
I hope you can practice what you preach, but the wobbles over the need for decarbonisation and unity do raise serious doubts.
No further questions.
It’s understandable that after all the comment, criticism and speculation from other royals, the papers and the tv all saying he and his mrs are this and that, he’d want to tell his own story, particularly when there’s so much bitchiness, lies and misogyny involved. And of course, he’s seen his own mother go through the same.
Aye, and ridiculously expensive fares too, if you want to go to London.
Much cheaper from Lincoln, if that’s an option.I agree with your point Sid, and the one you made before that. Human rights are important everywhere. But that’s not what JI said. There was no mention of anyone else or their rights, other than Christians.
In any case, invading another country in order to defend human rights is never straightforward, as we’ve seen across the middle east and elsewhere in recent decades. It’s probably one of the biggest dilemmas facing any leader. But deciding against it, or deciding to withdraw – while it might be ill-judged, particularly without a clear withdrawal plan – is scarcely a qualification for idiocy.
A really odd post to explain your nomination, JI.
1) Is saying you think he doesn’t make good decisions – not really a qualification for Idiot of 2022.
2) Energy policy – that would be Biden’t green energy policy that you disapprove of, right?
3) Afghanistan withdrawal? Well, the Yanks went in ostensibly for counter-terrorism purposes, not to hang around and protect Christians. Do you really think the USA should be invading countries around the world to protect followers of Jesus?
4) Unity? Reconciliation juice (whatever that is)? Do you really think Biden should give a free pass to those Republican terrorists who stormed the Parliament?It seems to me you’d quite like to line up with the fundamentalist right-wingers of the USA but can’t quite bring yourself to say so.
And didn’t the same article say a generation would stop using the trains “forever”!
Total rubbish from the government’s client journalists in the Murdoch press.
Never mind that 500 people a day are dying due to the NHS being unable to cope. Effectively a plane crash every day by a government that’s supposed to protect its citizens. Just imagine the figure if Johnson hadn’t built those 40 new hospitals, or not had $350 million a week to spend on the NHS!
Ah, you’re such a SMARTIE, SOS!
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Yep, another desperate, ridiculous post from BI in denial of reality. It’s the main problem with the Tories as a party, and it’s the main problem with their most ardent followers.
They open their mouths and people just start laughing with incredulity at how detached they are. They can’t gaslight people now – it no longer works. The suffering has been brought to everybody’s door, and it just won’t do to keep on lying and pretending the government is doing a good job.
With the NHS, everyone can see how the government is underfunding it, in order to run it down, claim it’s not working, and use that as an excuse for privatisation. Well, just imagine how big the premiums and bills would be for those unfortunate enough to have poor health – mental or otherwise – or the outrageous fortune to suffer a bad accident.
Do you know the prime reason for bankruptsy in the USA, BI? It’s the inability to pay medical bills.
It’s obvious to all how these factors can contribute to people’s poor mental health. But, then what happens? They end up paying another bill for treatment for depression/stress/anxiety and all its related manifestations – alcoholism, gambling, etc!
And there you are, with issues of your own, advocating precisely the kind of political and economic measures which just make it all worse! You really do need help, BI. But, the good news is that treatment is still free at the point of delivery.
Strange, isn’t it, how hardly anyone wants to mention the B-word now. Maybe it’s because everyone knows they’ve been well and truly ‘had’ by the likes of jonnie-ten-names and his dad, but most are too proud to admit it.
Stewart Lee tries to make sense of what happened…
And here’s another thing. BI, your duplicity knows no bounds. Post-prawn, on the other board you’re frantically virtue-signalling your concern for mental health, depression, addiction, etc.
To your credit, you have commented before about your own problems. But despite this, many of your brother Tories would say to you ‘Snap out of it Bucksiron, control yourself! And if you don’t, it’s your own fault for being so feckless. Just take responsibility, show some effin’ backbone and get a grip, man!’
It’s the position of classic neo-liberalism. It claims you are responsible for your own actions, that you can ‘just say no’ to all sorts of ailments and temptations, whether they are in a bottle, a brothel or a betting shop. Something has made you like this, and what you’ve learned, you can unlearn. So get on with it, and take back control.
Yet, your own direct experience tells you that it’s more complicated, especially the causes.
Let’s look at this more closely. For example, have you ever reflected on the insecurity and anxiety caused by the removal of social safety nets and employee rights? Or, how it feels to go to work while also needing a foodbank or after begging for Universal Credit? Have you ever paused to consider the stress it causes when people suddenly can’t pay their mortgage or energy bills, and have to beg their supplier not to cut them off, or the way it makes them feel they can’t support their families at Xmas, and are only one payday from destitution?
The material effects are bad enough, but the psychological effects are incalculable.
Just ask any doctor.As you know very well, being in control of your own brain and behaviour isn’t always an option, so people need help. But now just consider the difficulty in obtaining it. The waiting times, the lack of resources, the staff leaving the caring professions – the nurses who have left the UK after Brexit, the junior doctors who are leaving because the conditions are so god-awful bad that it’s making them ill, and the carers who can’t afford to care because the pay is so low it’s better to be stacking shelves, or flippin’ burgers. Then, there’s the humiliation of discussing your pathetic finances in order to qualify for UC.
But, mental health is not just about financial and medical resources. Communities themselves bring important social benefits. Alas, they too have largely disappeared from many areas. Just witness the decimation of South Yorks when the mines closed without a proper exit plan of ‘what next?’. When the work went, so did the informal network of care and support through the proximity of friends, relatives and workmates. A community who would talk, lend a hand and chip in, when times got tough. And in its absence the results are there for all to see, particularly in high levels of crime, and of physical and mental illness.
So, when it comes to the contradiction between sound mental health and your support for small state, unbridled free markets, small pensions/benefits, and of course Brexit, you haven’t a leg to stand on, because the economic and social effects brought about by all these are literally driving you and many others mad, BI.
But there’s a solution. For happier, healthier communities, you just need to take responsibility, get a grip and never, ever, vote for the blue lot again.
Goood stuff, DM.
Alfie Mooore may also be of interest, a former Humberside cop now doing stand-up.December 27, 2022 at 9:34 am in reply to: The tories energy crisis caused by corrupt and bad planning? #251191That’s true. When the government withdrew support back in the 80s there was little notice and no exit plan. It was like the withdrawal from Iraq, and the result was similar. Descent into disorder, in-fighting a breakdown of community, and ultimately a decimated, depressed area with no real future. Hopelessness and misery sit side by side, and local folk are easy prey for demagogues; in the case of South Yorks., ones like Farage.
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Has Ernest got a bet on?
Had he bet on the Iron to lose every game in the last 4-5 seasons he’d be laughing!..Death penalty for who?
Come on BPG, that’s such a poor, cheesy answer. (Just camouflage for something much darker, I think.) It sounds like you’re happy to let politics trump religion.
HE will not be impressed, especially on his son’s birthday.But here’s a way to repent. You could move to the Middle East, open a deli. and call it ‘Cheeses of Nazareth’!
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Are you in favour of the death penalty, Bill?
Or in the absence of a buyer, the club is simply wound up, and the assets (players, stadium, land) sold off to cover losses. A bit like taking an old banger off the road, parting it out, and flogging anything useful on Fleabay.
Bill, it’s no use holding up your cross and ranting like some medieval priest against the devil!
Just answer the question about why many of the pro-life lobby declare that abortion is morally wrong, but the death penalty is not.1 user thanked author for this post.
Gurnelista – “ So why do so many of them support the death penalty?”
The answer to THIS question is that God ( who has reaveled His prescriptive will in the “ God breathed” inspired,inerrrant and sufficient Scriptures) is a JUST GOD.
So, you don’t know, then.
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Aye, what happened to the ‘sound businessman’ schtick?
Looking through the Maguire posts it seems likely that both Swann and Apollo knew for some time there was a problem. Others must have known too. But for whatever reason, nothing was done about it.A “ genuine Christian “ has no other position to take ,other than supporting pro-life.
So why do so many of them support the death penalty?
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And now, all the way from Conisborough, Denaby and district, for one night only live in Tesco’s…. it’s… the Reytons!
It’s difficult to know where to start with this, coming from a member of one of the oldest, most privileged and supposedly most respected institutions of this country which has had repeated and ongoing scandals involving racism.
To begin… Hussey didn’t just ask about origins. The black woman told Hussey where she was from, but Hussey pursued it in an offensive manner. Would Hussey have pursued it with a red-head with an apostrophe in her surname, or a prefix of ‘Mac’, if she’d said she was from London? Of course not.
The problem with Hussey is that she probably didn’t realise she was behaving in a racist way, because she’s been doing it all her life. But times have changed, we’ve moved on, and it is a problem now, and time to learn about it.
Oh, but she was elderly, they say. So, what is officially the age at which it’s permitted to be racist? Is it OK if you’re over 70 to move a black woman’s hair and tell her you don’t believe her when she says she’s from London? Or should it be 65.5, maybe? 60, anyone??
Perhaps it’s the same with yourself, JI. You see it as OK because you’ve been doing it all your life, and on top of that you’ve been persuaded and gaslit into thinking it’s OK by the likes of Farage and other Kippers, as well as black people in the cabinet who claim white privilege doesn’t exist.
Yet, racism is all around us. Show me a white footballer whose skin colour is brought into the discussion if he misses a penalty in an England shirt! And we end up talking about stuff like this woman’s conversation, which is trivial in itself, but so very serious. Why? Because it’s symptomatic of the epic inequality – social, racial and financial – even in institutions which claim to represent us, which is at the root of so many of this country’s problems. We should be ashamed.
Starmer sees the next election as his cup final. He’ll do whatever it takes to beat the Tories and at whatever price.
But the pair weren’t stopped entering the ground because of what they were wearing. According to the Mail it was because they were carrying swords.
A variation of the story appeared in the Express (below). Again, no names provided, just allegations. The last line says it all, with “if (the story) is to be believed…”.
In all probability it was a media stunt, created to sell papers and give the impression Qatar is awful (because this is what many think), when in fact the country supports pretty much everything the Mail and Express stand for – few human rights, disregard for immigrants and massive inequality, unless you happen to be a Qatari male.
It’s classic tabloid hypocrisy and double standards.
Aye, blame the foreigner!
With Qatar tho’, the Mail/Express are over a barrel. On the one hand, it’s Islamic and denies its people many rights enjoyed by westerners. But on the other, it’s non-woke. So any criticism of the country leaves the paper open to criticising itself and its editorial line. Anti-LBGTQ? Hoorah! Tough and repressive on law n order? Hooorah? Misogynist? Hooorah? Tax-free? Hooorah! Death penalty? Hooorah, Right-wing media praising right-wing leaders and cancelling the left? Hooorah!
How could the Tory press argue with any of that? So a non-story/stunt involving sword-bearering fans being refused entry to the stadium is its limit.
In reality this is a non-story, because everyone knows you can’t enter a stadium with an imitation sword in Qatar, any more than you can here!
But evidence suggests it was deliberately staged by a newspaper, to give themselves a headline and stir up their impressionable readers.
See how there are no names tied to the story, only claims, allegations, and apparently posts on social media. In other words, the journalist himself probably posted some rubbish somewhere, then reported his own comments for the article, and invented comments from other fans.
It’s nothing new. Pre-Brexit, the Mail did similar things with complete fictions about the EU. And, they do it now, inventing stories about likely to anger their readers – about ‘woke’ stuff, Markle, migrants, striking teachers, doctors….
British media at their very worst. They should carry a health warning.
That’s right. And, in a club like ours an academy is a community asset which develops young players not just in the footballing sense but in a wider more social sense, especially as schools are so stressed at present and unable to dedicate time to talent, and to those lacking in soft skills, such as following instructions, helping your team mates, dealing with disappointment, etc etc. A recent tv documentary showed this in action at Crystal Palace, who under chairman Steve Parish, are exemplars of how to do this.
Oh, and as for parental wealth, cars and academies, I don’t think you can assess anybody’s wealth from a glance at their wheels. And, there are plenty of youths with special needs – social or otherwise – from wealthy families, as any teacher will tell you.
It’s so often the case that the party in power lose elections, rather than the opposition winning them.
I would fully agree with this Gurnelista, I would think that there was a 15 to 20% swing to Labour after the Truss handling of her few weeks in number 10.
But why do so many Brits have no problem with all these thousands of drop outs
Because they don’t inhale nonsense from the right-wing media, who all want you to blame the foreigner rather than Tory incompetence which they have ushered into power in the first place.
Let me put it another way – why are you so concerned about people who weren’t actually born in the UK, when the kind of problems besetting people like yourself in North Lincs. are the chaotic health service, emergency services, boarded-up shops, inflation and energy bills, and the lack of support given by the government to people like yourself, often through a labour shortage which immigration can mitigate.
Knackered northern towns are beginning to resemble war zones, and you, your family and community are being terrorised by this government’s incompetence and negligence. Yet, you seem unwilling to call them out on it. Why?
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