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DM – No ideology or art, just realism. This is NLN. Players often miss chances, fall over, or can’t be bothered. Managers often struggle with tactics, and the games are often rubbish. But we scored plenty, and had it not been for a missed pen on Saturday we wouldn’t be having this debate now. FFS, anyone would think we’d just been relegated!

Ironx3 – supporters are often quick to call for a sacking on messageboards and elsewhere when the results start to falter. Fan impatience is legendary, as was the impatience of the last two chairmen. And look where it got us. Even when we had Laws and some of the most memorable matches in the last two decades, plenty on here were calling for him to be sacked!

Course, if Dean left there would be plenty of chancers willing to take over. But forget the ‘promised land’ any time soon. At this level, most would be useless, clueless, and take us back even further.

As for Nostradamus’ prognostications about ‘entering the dark ages’ … after regularly sacking managers for the past decade, that’s precisely where we are now! Surely it’s obvious.

Attendances? In this league ours might be an indicator of superior wealth, but we have big debts, meaning there’s far less available for the club to sign/keep players than some others.

Results? If this, if that…. if my aunt was my uncle she’d have had bollox!

True, the season hasn’t turned out the way we wanted, but under Dean we’ve done reasonably well, despite our impoverishment and near death. But past experience suggests that appointing yet another manager would be capitulating to the same populist impatience and recklessness which helped bring us here in the first place. Stick with him throughout 2024, let him consolidate and build, then review in January.

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Fair comment, but either way we’ve earned a poor reputation for keeping managers, boardroom stability and club finance.

High standards are important, but so is realism. A boy wonder manager with a stellar CV isn’t about to walk through the revolving door, wave his wand, and in a magical flash take the club back to FL2.

But, we did well this season, and we just might do better next time if we build on it rather than getting rid, going backwards and starting over. Failure to get promoted this year is just a bruise, not a tattoo.

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Rene Artois wrote:

Have you seen the person spec sheets for road sweepers and bin people?
You need a degree to empty bins these days.

But not to run a political party like say, UKIP.

Rene Artois wrote:

Alternatively, let’s aim low and wallow in the cesspit for a decade or two?

If leading the league for a good part of the season, finishing in the playoffs and then going out on a penalty are grounds for dismissal, who of any calibre would want to come here and with hardly any cash to spend? What sort of reputation does it give the club?

In case nobody noticed, it has been the persistent sacking of managers season after season that has contributed to the club being where it is already – in the proverbial cesspit of NLN.

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It’s the NLN, not the prem or politics!
Which managerial superman with all those attributes would take a job here, and with hardly any cash to spend?

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Good summary IA. Fact is, we’re still not good enough, and had we gone up, we’d have struggled, especially as the budget is said to be a lot smaller next season. The positives are that the club is still there, and despite all the challenges of the toughest season in the Iron’s history, we nearly got promoted.

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It depends on the manner of the defeat. If it’s an embarrassment then it could be Dean’s last game. If not, then it’s hard to say, as we don’t know what’s been going on behind the scenes and how the board feels about Dean and his management. You also have to consider whether anyone more suitable would be available or want to take charge, the current state of club finances, etc. etc. As fans we aren’t privy to all this knowledge, so who knows?

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Beware of Alfreton, they’re having a good spell.
Only lost one in the last ten and scored more goals than Tamworth this season.

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Well it’s true JI, you do play the victim and nearly all your posts are about yourself, just like those of your infamous predecessor.

‘Dim’? Hypocritical? Just look above – you moan about a lack of joy then go on a rant about fear, death and judgement! Elsewhere you go on about truth, yet endorse those wacky websites. You claim to espouse Christian family values but endorse Trump and the far right!

And as for wanting posters to take seriously the cussed, prejudiced loonies on here – the end of days brigade, the WND fans and all the jonnies with their hypocrisy, manipulation and lies – if that’s what you expect, you need to look elsewhere.

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Aye, witness the loonies on here that are either prepping for the end of days or pontificating about truth while following wacky websites like World Net Daily and expressing admiration for the serial liar, serial adulterer and self-confessed sex offender standing to become the next American president.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily

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The main issue here is the woman’s right to choose v religious patriarchs’ wish to impose their views on women; views based on pre-modern ideas about the creation of life.

The point is this. If abortion were banned, women would still seek it out, and the practice would be driven underground, just as it was in the past, with (usually poor) women enduring some of the most dangerous and barbaric medical practices imaginable, at the hands of charlatans and snake oil salespeople. Once again, it would become a cottage industry practised in back streets by the bad, mad and impecunious. Desirable? I don’t think so.

But let’s be clear, there are still far too many unwanted pregnancies, and the key to preventing many of them is education and contraception. With better education in schools and families, not least in some of the most staunch, severe and fundamental religious communities where contraception and sex are still taboo, women can grow to be confident and educated to take decisions which prevent unwanted pregnancy.

So, forget all the pompous piffle and frankly hypocritical comments about “ideological preference” from the ideologically motivated religious lobby. Instead, JI and others should consider how much their views are shared with fundamentalists of all kinds, especially Muslims, when it comes to basic issues around women’s rights, human rights, democracy and the death penalty. They’d be quite at home in Saudi Arabia; in fact I believe there are some cheap deals to Mecca, currently.

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True, the only question is by how many seats.

As Heathy says above, what would happen if any of us were caught doing this in the workplace? You’d be straight out the door with sandwiches wrapped in a road map, career in tatters. Then, there could well be legal letters and summonses for a breach of GDPR.

Imagine if it were a teacher, a doctor, or anyone really, sending intimate pix of himself to a patient, the parent of a schoolkid, or a constituent.

Yet, here we are, with the party of Churchill, Thatcher (if you like that sort of thing) Major… Heseltine, even William Hague… what would their reaction have been, how would any of them have dealt with this sort of thing happening in the senior ranks on their watch? Not with silence, we can be sure.

Can this party sink any lower?

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Aye, and they will in the election.

The main issues are his lack of judgement and reckless disregard for the privacy and safety of his colleagues while demeaning his office of state. And he’s a member of the er… ‘common sense’ group!

Just imagine he was a member of a Labour government. The press would be baying for blood. As it is, there’s barely a whimper. Hypocrisy?

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I’d be interested in “Brexit – the Social Impact of Self-Imposed Relegation”.

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Probably done deliberately as a warning to aid workers trying to assist those on the brink of starvation and death.
And this from a country which professes to be deeply religious.
Again, words fail.

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Yes, simplicity generally helps. You often get a better sound out of smaller speakers driven at about two thirds of their power than bigger ones driven at about a tenth or less.

T-table speeds can be worth checking too, but it’s tricky. I used to compare songs on vinyl against the same songs on youtube, but the uploads aren’t always accurate either. Or, you can mess about with ‘post-it’ stickers on the platter and the stop-watch on your phone for hours of geeky fun!

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Mm good stuff, the Alto is probably the strongest piece in the system, no? It could surely handle bigger speakers?
I think a lot of high quality older gear is preferable to the newer stuff. I used to have a pair of old Richard Allan speakers (Chaconnes) from the 60s. Lovely warm sound that was never tiring even with cd’s.

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Audio Innovations amp?
And the t-table/cart is…

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It’s called memory JI.
Instead of following nuts online, try getting more in your diet.

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Just Iron wrote:

JI is the new Bucks …

Jihadi, you once called BI “a cussed, prejudiced loony”
Hmm…

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And if you personally depend on the state in any way, e.g. for credits, benefits, hospitals, doctors, social services, emergency services, schools, libraries, playing fields… why would you vote for a party dedicated to shrinking the state and cutting them? It would surely be an act of er… self-abuse.

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Or Brexit????

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Most ‘British’ kits are designed in the UK but manufactured in China, Vietnam or elsewhere. Too expensive here, see. Just imagine the price if it was made in Bradford or Brum, rather than Beijing!

As for a “woke” badge about which people are “furious” (Daily Wail), does it contain a hidden message about Pride or Trans or something? Maybe I missed it. It just looks a bit purple.

Why isn’t there as much outrage about people not having enough food to eat in Britain, nor able to afford a home?

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DM, Shilton usually does talk rubbish, sadly.
Was a great keeper, now wizard of the drivel.
Was singing the praises of Rees Mogg over Brexit a while back.
Today, fretting about about a bit of ‘woke’ embroidery on the back of a collar!

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It’s not worth getting hot under the collar about. It’s sweet FA really…. Most of those venting about the colours of a tiny design on the back of a shirt collar aren’t really bothered either way, they’re actually upset about something else in their lives. It’s a scapegoat for the frustration felt about all sorts of stuff, particularly how the country and people have been stuffed, lied to and let down by their leaders in recent years.

And when the public get upset about something trivial, the politicos have to weigh in and make capital out of it. It’s a useful distraction from the big issues. No wonder the right is on it.

Nike’s own goal is the price, which is ridiculous and exploitative, particularly of parents with kids who just want to be patriotic and support the team. Patriotism is only available to the wealthy, apparently. That’s the real issue here.

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Rene Artois wrote:

Absolutely. Country is on its derrière!

Nahh, England is proud, free and sovereign, just like the good ol’ days. The economy is in the sunlit uplands, and we’re out of the evil empire. Immigration is under control and there are no more Turks. Farmers and fishermen are dancing in the streeets, and we’ve all got cheap food and shoes, just like they said on here.

It’s time these remoaner jonnies held their peace.

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Just what is it with this club??

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=groundhog+day+clip#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:3a3d30af,vid:GncQtURdcE4,st:0

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Whichever way you look at it the response to the initial attack has been way beyond proportionate.

The worst thing is the murder of children. Remember, children aren’t Muslim, Palestinian, Jewish, Christian or anything at all, until their parents tell them what they are.

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You won’t be repeating them, but no doubt some will.
But it’s pretty random.
There should be one about the kind of rubbish circulating online, like vaccinations being done to implant microchips, the EU being unelected, or the number of lies Trump told during and after his presidency (over 30,000). No doubt that contributes to his popularity with some on here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump

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S’pose JI’s lack of self-awareness plus obvious contradictions and double standards have a limited comedic value, as do those of Trump and Truss… which take us seamlessly back to the OP.

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Ironage, if you think it’s a few words away from an anti-semitic / Islamophobic rant, read it again – and see paragraph 3.

Of course not all Christians subscribe to the lunacy of the evangelical lot, nor do all Tories agree with the lunacy of those currently running the circus in Westminster.

But some – especially the most ardent on here – are attracted a) by the idea of yoking Christianity to nationalism, as the far-right does in the States, and b) by the idea that it’s under threat from Islam.

It’s complete rubbish of course, and just distracts the public from talking about how free market economics has failed to deliver social and economic justice.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/more-half-tory-members-poll-120849474.html

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