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Doesn’t seem like much speculating going on here Sanfran…seems pretty factual that he assaulted an emergency worker and got arrested for it.
It is ALLEGED that he assaulted an assaulted worker. It is for the court to decide if that’s true or not.
Well in a couple of weeks time, they’re going to need the lights on for 3pm kick offs anyway, so evening games would make little difference in that regard.
3am might be even better Barton, then you could miss it all together.
FFS go get junior brown,still hasn t a club as far as I know,+ he would bring a little bit of experience,just a thought
Yes, we need more signings! Even though we have a squad of 30+, even though we’ve signed 9 players this season, even though the game’s in a real financial mess, we need to sign more players!
I look forward to people demanding Cox resign in a couple of weeks, I’m sure another change of manager will definitely resolve all our problems. Just like the last half-a-dozen changes have.
My memory isn’t what it used to be.
Irrespective of the above, can anyone else remember when Colclough last had a good game? – You know, a 7/10?
Has there been one since he recovered from his bad injury?The big win over Northampton last season, that’s about a year ago.
No idea if this is our Ryan Colclough but isn’t this the same offence Adam Hammill got done for a few years ago?
Cheltenham and Exeter away the kickoffs have been brought forward to 6pm and 1pm if that is any good to you, you obviously don’t go to Saturday afternoon games in normal times then.
I would do during normal times – for me, it seems weird just to be sat around the house on a Saturday afternoon, precisely because I would normally be out at football or doing something else.
Barton’s very own Enoch Powell.
Agreed, a nasty man, I’m surprised he’s still allowed to post on here after some of his comments.
Another signing? How big’s our squad now?
He made the point scunny are a really well run club so if we are affected in this way how bad are other clubs???
He basically said the EFL need to pull their fingers out!!Who said that? Clarke or Swann?
To be honest, given the club has had minimal income for the last 6-7 months, it’s no great surprise that this is the case, aside from some notable exceptions like Exeter I can imagine most clubs are in a desperate position.
What I find incredibly frustrating is that the game of football has been awash with money for a couple of decades now. Yes, it’s been tighter in the lower leagues thanks to the greed of the Premier League, but there’s still been more money than in, say, the 1980s or 1990s. Yet, it seems that the game has completely failed to put money aside for a rainy day, the old Brian Clough “prune juice” analogy still seems to apply. Basically, we’ve had decades to fix the roof for a rainy day and we never bothered.
Ferrite is becoming the new club guard dog…it appears he’s taken over from the other wally. Any, and I mean any posts of criticism towards the style of play e.t.c “even if coupled with a valid reason” will be immediately shot down and you’ll be moaned at for moaning.
Thanks for your kind words.
I think we’ve got a real problem with expectations as a supporter base, too many of us still seem to be in the “promotion to the Championship” mentality. We need to get real. This is what we are now for the time being. You can either enjoy it and get behind the team or you can moan and look like an entitled Premier League fan. Your choice.
Hard to see how Dales, Olomola, Mooney, Jarvis, Pugh and maybe more are going to get anywhere near the matchday squad if we don’t have a massive injury crisis. Is Cox keeping Eisa and McAtee out of the picture until the transfer window closes?
I’ve been wondering the same, I would have thought that some sales would be crucial but, realistically, how many clubs are going to be making signings now?
It’s a football forum.
Contributors are allowed to moan!
I reckon we’ll lose more than we win this season, we should at least enjoy these rare days in the sun!
n’t think there have been any/many complaints about the 3 points, they were badly needed.
I never said they were, people are complaining about how they were gained.
The worrisome thing for me was that we could easily have lost that game if it wasn’t for Watson. It’s good Watson had a stellar performance, but we can’t rely on the goalkeeper winning it for us in most games.
Sure but a goalkeeper is one of the team’s 11 players and is allowed to play well. Even better to see Rory Watson finally show some real promise and deliver a match-winning performance. That should be a positive for me.
cassidystash is right. Most see someone like Eisa, for example, as one of our best players and I think it would be rather contentious to say otherwise, so when he’s left out and the replacement/resulting performance is no better then there are bound to be questions from fans. Sure, we’re not privy to training and ideas of the coaches and managers, but we’re allowed to form an opinion based on what we see. We’re supporters of the club, but that doesn’t mean we need to shut off our own critical faculties for blind cheering on of whatever the manager or players do. We should strive to be measured in criticism, and sometimes many aren’t, but I don’t see harm in holding an opinion if argued politely and reasonably enough.
Presumably, you think Cox is not an idiot? So shouldn’t we trust him to make the right decisions for the team? Sure, if things go badly for a long period of time, then by all means question him but doesn’t he deserve the benefit of the doubt for now?
Look, I do get it, we’ve had a succession of managers who’ve been, at best, conservative and at worse outright negative. But people carping on about “attacking football” when we’ve just won one game, the first in 8 matches and only fourth in 16 league games this year, is just a bit premature in my opinion.
I hope you’re right in that things do change, but try to be a bit more forgiving of some who vent, especially after the emotional time of match day. Yes, we don’t have to watch, but given I pay for the games on ifollow, I feel like I should, and I want to pay because it helps the club in these times.
That’s fine but that patience & forgiveness needs to be shown to the team and its management too. Give them a chance.
Remember him missing from less than a yard out once.
Was it the Bedlington Terriers game where he took the ball round the keeper, looked up at the DRE and smiled as the entire crowd shouted “MAN ON!” and the recovering defender took the ball off him?
I’m not doubting for a minute that the club are losing significant amounts of money due to this crisis, but I’d be interested to see exactly what the figures are in terms of matchday sales. Can a shareholder help with last year’s figures?
If you take the above example – 1,250 ifollow passes is £12,500 (bigger clubs will get a lot more). But the costs of holding a match – police, stewards, other casual matchday staff etc is presumably zero.
As I say, I’m not doubting we’re losing a lot – parking, food, programmes, memorabilia etc are also zero – I’m just interested to know exactly what the figures are.
The accounts are publicly available: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00123622/filing-history
The annual figure for gate receipts is around £1 million.
There will be some costs to putting on games behind closed doors, such as stewards to stop people getting into the stadium area, people to run the ground (lights, cleaning, groundstaff, office staff, etc.) but you would assume fewer costs than a normal game.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think clubs get the full £10 from iFollow, there’s a % for the company that provides the platform.
Presumably Loft is guaranteed a goal against his old club? I mean, that’s how it works when our former players come back here, so it’s only fair it works the other way round.
Before you start taking pot shots at me, you should be questioning Cox. By all means it will take him time to realise his best 11 and to stamp his own mark on the team, but, to play your best players out of position hell bent on shoehorning them into a system everybody else bar Cox and Lillis realises doesn’t work, it annoys me…as it has to plenty of other fans.
Try asking yourself why he’s doing that. He’s no fool, there must be a reason for it. Give it some thought, I’m sure he has.
Seconded Cass, hope he can find some form.
I think the Orient chairman was saying that because they’re being chucked out of the competition because they had tested their players (and had positive results) whereas he’s saying if he hadn’t tested anyone, they’d have had their game on the TV, so where’s the incentive for them to test?
There is no proof whatsoever that Swann has been choosing the team. Where he is guilty is in choosing poor managers.
I agree with the first point but who would you list as a poor manager?
Wilcox – won promotion, for all his flaws.
Robbins – had his moments and has done excellently elsewhere.
Alexander – ditto.
Daws – who knows from barely 10 games?
McCall – not great but not terrible.
Hurst – was showing some promise before leaving suddenly.None of them are particularly exciting appointments but they’re not awful. I would argue all of them should have been given more time, apart perhaps from Robbins.
From what I’ve seen, Eisa is quick with a cracking shot and Gillead is slower with a good range of passing: based on that, both could well shine in their “new” positions, given a bit of time. But I could be wrong, so could Cox.
I would just ask why Cov is doing this, does he feel that moving these players will help make up for shortfalls in other areas of the squad? We all know we’re short of midfielders and none of the fit strikers are particularly quick.
But if it doesn’t work, I’m sure Cox will shuffle the deck again in a couple of games, you just have to give these things a bit of a chance.
Cox hasn’t exactly got off to a flying start but I’m willing to give him time. What I can’t quite fathom or give him much time for is playing people out of position or not playing them at all. Eisa and Gilliead were two of our very few positives from last season but so far this season they’re yet to play a single game in their actual position. Move them back out to the wings and start actually attacking teams like Cox professed he would…not pass the ball about nicely at the back making your possession stats look nice with no cutting edge (been there before haven’t we??).
Could it be that he thinks he can get more out of them by putting them in different positions? Remember when Gareth Bale was just a reserve left-back? Didn’t Cristiano Ronaldo spend his early days on the wing, not scoring many goals?
3 games and you’re already an expert on what he’s doing wrong? It’s a wonder you’re not manager WG.
You know how everyone was saying “give him time” at the start of the season? Well, guess what that means? You might have to wait a few more games until you form your judgements. There might be reason in his “madness”, there might be reasons why certain players aren’t being picked.
Time will tell. My suspicion is he’s desperately trying to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
Will club’s start to consider folding now fans won’t be allowed back in Oct 1st? Let’s hope not.
The government have said today that it ain’t going to happen. Problems.
The rugby on channel 4 a 5000 crowd atmosphere, there’s your answer Ferrite if you get to see.
An answer to what?
I was supposed to be seeing family from the north-east this weekend, that’s had to be shelved sadly. Now I see the government are floating the idea of a full national lockdown in October for a couple of weeks. Not great news.
Does it feel right to keep trying to play sport and diverting valuable resources in these circumstances?
Basically Iron-awe, I think we can all agree that there is plenty of blame to go around!
It’s not Tottenham’s or Liverpool’s obligation to ensure Macclesfield pay their tax bill; live within your means and budget accordingly.
Maybe not directly but it doesn’t help that the Premier League refuses to share TV money properly, or that rules are consistently changed to suit the big clubs, like the EPPP scheme which undermines the academies of small clubs or the introduction of B-teams into the Football League Trophy. The list is a long one.
But the Premier League isn’t solely to blame, if Football League clubs were more united and less willing to bend over for a few pennies from the Premier League table, we wouldn’t be quite so badly off now. But there is no solidarity between clubs, everyone is solely out for themselves.
However, my point around self governance remains the same. Bury knew roughly their yearly turnover, yet they rode along with a madman’s spending spree when Beckford and co rolled into town. In no other walk of life would you get away from running a business so recklessly
Very fair point, so why don’t we govern clubs more strictly? Why do we allow owners to run up such appalling debts? The league could and should impose much tougher rules to stop them doing that but refuse to do so. Make owners post a bond each year to cover costs if the club runs into financial problems. Keep a much closer eye on finances during the season and react quicker if problems are occuring. Stop any one owner having overall majority control. These things are all possible!
Yes, that was definitely the reason for my typo!
I think fans have to accept some blame for the problems too, with all our endless demands of “showing some ambition” (translation: spend more money), thinking that we need to “invest in January” (translation: spend more money) or “be competitive” (translation: spend more money). It can’t keep going on like that. We need more solidarity between fans of rival clubs, for the good of the whole division, rather than just hoping that the axe will continue to fall elsewhere.
I hope Bucks is ok, this sort of pathetic trolling is not good for you.
Quite a surprising move for Butler but good luck to him.
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