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I wish him and his team the very best on their next appointment at Grimsby Town.

Joking aside, I can’t see him getting a job at a club anywhere near the size of Scunthorpe or Grimsby. Be very interesting to see where he ends up.

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cassidystash wrote:

But will we ever have a better chance to ascend that first step? Not any time soon IMO.

Why not? We’ll still be the biggest club in this division most seasons and so we’ll always be competitive. Aligning the stars of a good manager who gets the most out of talented players should not be an impossibility.

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64 wrote:

Should have gone when Hilton did

If that had been a financially viable option, I think that might have been the case.

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Good decision! 1.5 seasons that failed to meet expectations, the most uninspiring public speaker we’ve ever had in charge, and a style of football that found few fans.

Appreciate he had to deal with many challenges along the way but so did all the players and for some reason they seem to get a lot less sympathy for it.

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Awaywego wrote:

Coventry play in the best stadium outside the premiership imo uninterrupted vue all round the ground and the are really good acoustics really good. Interesting how different people see different things.

Surprised you like it since it’s impossible to park anywhere near their ground!

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46 games played and we may or may not be promoted.

Can you endure another season in this cesspit league if we aren’t promoted?

Do people really care which league we’re in? Of course it’s nice to get promoted, it’s nice to be in a higher league, but frankly I’d still watch & support the Iron in any division and as Mick says it’s nice to see us winning games after all these recent years.

And I’d FAR rather watch a game at Curzon, at Blyth, at Alfreton, at Gloucester than really terrible grounds like Leicester, Coventry, Doncaster, or Colchester. Awful, awful places to watch football.

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ironfromafar wrote:

Boo Boo the local Council.. who ever it iz

The council’s so financially cash-strapped they need to sell the stadium – like virtually every council in the country their budget has been cut and cut and cut over the last 14 years to the point that they can’t afford basic services, nevermind valuable community facilities. The real story here is how communities & society have been so royally shafted in the last 14 years. And maybe also why the EFL felt the need to have such a hard & fast rule – especially given the unusual circumstances and the fact the club has played there for more than 40 years….

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I don’t think promotion is a necessity for the club but it is for Dean: personally, I wouldn’t retain him after this summer but other opinions are available.

Either way, Saturday could be the final game that a lot of these players play for SUFC.

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Don’t be such a size queen NI!

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Awaywego wrote:

We’re already twinned with Stenhousemuir for visits ferrite. Think it was 18 yrs this year.

Is that right? I presume everyone already knew that?

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MK Iron wrote:

They would then be able to give season ticket holders a couple of days to claim their place before a longer window for general sale.

Why do we need a two-tier system dividing fans?

Apollo11 wrote:

I doubt there would be a two tier time-based pricing system for a Play Off semi-final with tickets on sale for just a week or so. I may be wrong, of course, but doesn’t ‘this kind of match’ just have the one ticket price (concessions excepting) per each relevant area of the ground?

Not sure, I was just explaining a potential reason why clubs like to get the money in as soon as possible, which is why they price regular matches in that way. Not just SUFC of course, virtually every professional club does this now.

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What other reason could there be?

I would imagine it would be in the interests of the club to want to secure sales as soon as possible, for the same sort of reasons as clubs price tickets to encourage fans to buy in advance.

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I think the club is probably the best judge of that, and the fact a reconsideration was asked for suggests they think the reduced sale window might cause an unnecessary strain.

Assuming that’s the reason why the extension was requested.

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Ordinarily on a match day you can’t hand over cash or tap your card at the turnstiles.

I know there will be “reasons” for this and I’m moving the discussion away from the OP but I simply don’t understand why clubs which are not going to sell out the ground don’t have turnstiles where you can do this. Surely it should be as easy as possible to separate potential customers from their money? Especially on the terrace where there’s no issue around seat allocations.

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FWIW, I think the requirement not to sell tickets in advance imposed by the league is a daft one, I don’t see the point. Especially when FA Cup ties have often been sold with an unknown opponent pending a replay.

But equally a couple of days to shift 5,000 tickets doesn’t seem that tight given most folk will be doing it through an automated online system.

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If you mean physically hand over cash or tap your card at the turnstile itself then absolutely not.

This would seem to the easiest way to do it, or am I missing something?

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I think it’s more generous than that – ie. it’s an awareness of the (admittedly short term) undue strain this is likely to put on club resources, plus the hassle involved for those people who don’t buy digitally having to go down to a very busy club office within a very limited timeframe to, probably, queue for ages.

Do you not think it’ll be pay-on-the-gate?

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Siderite wrote:

Madden was a decent enough goalscorer for us, so I don’t think there’s room for complaint, but he wasn’t not as good as Hooper or Sharp. Not as good with the ball as Keogh or Hayes.

That’s a fair assessment. I agree that Madden wasn’t terrible, I just don’t think he’s a patch on what went before him.

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Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

Ridiculous decision by the authorities. 3 days to sell tickets for one of the biggest games of the year isn’t fair on supporters nor the club.

Again, I don’t understand what isn’t “fair” here? Are people just frustrated that they can’t post a screenshot of their ticket on their social media? Why do you need a ticket a week in advance of a game which won’t sell out?

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I realise I am swimming against the tide here but I never liked Paddy Madden and always thought he was massively over-rated, partly because pretty much everyone who has come since him has been even worse.

I still think it was a sign of what was to come when we signed him in January 2014 despite Winnall banging them in, Deon Burton being a regular, Paul Hayes signing on a free, and the team going really well. Felt like a signing for the sake of making a signing.

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CMC wrote:

Good idea.
Here’s an example of what could be done.
In November this year, we will welcome the fifth batch of inductees to the Motherwell FC Hall of Fame.

That’s exactly the sort of thing I was thinking about. For what it’s worth, Motherwell is (currently) a fan-owned club, so I’m not surprised to see them doing this sort of thing. I always had a soft spot for Motherwell too, another steeltown club, great name & kit. KVV. Used to work with a fee ‘Well fans on Scunthorpe steelworks who had moved down after Ravenscraig closed. We should have some sort of “fan friendship” with Motherwell I reckon, pre-season friendlies, group of Iron fans going to see a game of theirs once a season (and vice versa).

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sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

A room has already been earmarked for an SUFC museum, there’s a large amount of memorabilia set aside.
Ready for next season.

This is a great idea, hope it’s a real success.

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I’m sure you know what you mean.

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Deereyme66

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I still don’t really see what the issue is here, it’s not going to be a sell out so why not just make it pay on the gate?

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Apollo11 wrote:

So the on sale date remains the Thursday before the Saturday, ie just two days prior. Absolutely ridiculous, imho.

It’s unusual but realistically what difference does it make to you? Do you really think it’ll sell out?

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Deereyme66

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TheJuryeffsOut wrote:

I read those rules, not an easy read.
It seems to me the National League have set a percentage, they describe as “a levy”, which they will take from the net proceeds of the game after all expenses for both clubs (and including the travel and hotel costs for National League board members and officers who attend the match). The remaining proceeds are split 50% each to the 2 clubs.
I can’t find out what amount the levy is but it was agreed prior to the start of the season.
Should be a good earner for the league if it is (as we hope !) at Scunthorpe.

Worth remembering that there’s a similar setup for the Football League play-offs and FA Cup ties have a similar arrangement.

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Not often you see a goal scored with a two-footed tackle!

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Apollo11 wrote:

I’m sure they it was probably a shitshow behind the scenes, in business or financial terms, whatever… but the Sands club in Gainsborough was actually good while it lasted – not half-arsed, at least not on the occasions I visited for dinner / dance / cabaret style evenings in a post-Sinatra / wannabe Goodfellas style.

I went to a couple of jazz gigs there and whilst it was great to have that sort of thing in Gainsborough, I was never that impressed with the venue.

Was it a success? I don’t seem to remember it lasting too long but did he close it to move it to Blackpool, or were they separate things?

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lesgeo wrote:

Dean seemingly had a lot of say in recruitment of the present squad. As a recruiter, he hasn’t looked too bad at all.

Hang on a minute, I have some questions to ask here!

Even if we ignore the complete shambles which was the end of last season, when so many signings made under Dean barely played or didn’t impress, the signings made since the embargo was lifted this year have hardly impressed. Clarke’s barely played, McAlinden’s been here & there, Corbett is a mystery, though not as much as the guy from Farsley who’s disappeared off the website, and then there’s this Leesley chap too. Not the greatest track record?

Sure, under Dean a good squad was assembled last summer, but surely that’s easy if you’re paying well over the odds for players?

In fairness, I don’t know how much input Dean has had into signings throughout his tenure, but I couldn’t say that the record has been a positive one in those 15-16 months.

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cassidystash wrote:

Sorry if I’m a bit late but I’ve just seen that TNT are covering all NL, NLN & NLS play offs. Does that mean no streaming? Anybody confirm or otherwise please.

Couldn’t tell you but another news story today is that the Football League’s iFollow is going to disappear next season as Sky are going to broadcast all the games. More expense for fans!

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cassidystash wrote:

Promotion (or not) is surely the key. Achieve that and it’s inconceivable that Dean could be sacked, who would come to a club that sacks a promotion winning manager? Only the terminally thick or unemployable. IFA has the right idea about any new contract for Jimmy, 6 month maximum or a rolling monthly if we can get away with it.

It’s funny, in Italian football this sort of thing is really common: you hire a manager to do a job, they do it, the club then decides whether to keep them on to do the next job or to find someone better suited. Managers understand that’s how the system works. Obviously it would be very odd to do that in British football, I just find it interesting how even things that seem “obvious” to us can vary around the world.

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