[Ferrite]

I’m amazed that 64 isn’t raging about American “cookies” being marketed instead of “biscuits”.

[Ferrite]

I didn’t realise they’d got rid of them, was that a Hilton or Swann “improvement”?

I haven’t bought a programme in decades, I don’t really see the point of them in the internet age, but I know they’re important to many people.

[Ferrite]

ironfromafar wrote:

As for Hilton hes gone and for now i trust quote “enjoying his life away from football” though im sure hes harboring thoughts of where next to have a go next.

I’ll be surprised if he comes back to football again, I think he was genuinely taken back by the level of attention & scrutiny a club of our size brings with it.

[Ferrite]

No idea, the fun* lies in finding out.

*fun not guaranteed.

[Ferrite]

Awaywego wrote:

He paid the bills till obviously he said he would stop, just the same as Swanny.

Is that true?

[Ferrite]

cassidystash wrote:

If any team at a realistic level need to match Fitz’s wages then they will probably not be looking to pay a fee. Would we let him go on a free to save the money?

Yes, I reckon transfer fees are pretty negligible at this level and I assume he’s only got a year left on his contract anyway.

[Ferrite]

From what I have seen of Roberts, he’s clearly a good player, but in many ways he makes us quite easy to play against because he always cuts back into traffic. Teams that want to defend deep against us will be happy with that.

[Ferrite]

Dragoniron wrote:

My source tells me they’re looking to save Fitz’s 2k a week. 5 players make up 50% of the wage bill, him being one!

The guy who left Chesterfield, a kick away from promotion to the Football League, to sign for Hilton’s Mercenaries? Aye, I reckon we should be looking at offers for him, tbh.

[Ferrite]

64 wrote:

Somebody wrote that and thought it OK,
No mention of season ticket holders

What’s not OK with it?

[Ferrite]

64 wrote:

It is for many mate, certainly in my industry and steelworkers.Not all industries have stop periods.Shops in town all will be open. Warehouses to supply shops are now a big part of our local.economy they don’t have stop periods.

Sure, I appreciate many people will be *able* to go to work but equally plenty of folk will be on annual leave anyway.

I always used to work that period when I had a proper job because you could get more done and people with kids wanted the time off. But in general if you want time off in the Christmas-New Year “perineum” I reckon you’ll probably be able to get it.

[Ferrite]

I cannot for the life of me understand why you’re so outraged about this. To claim December 31st is a normal working day simply isn’t true. Many people may work, plenty of others don’t. I reckon it’ll be a success.

[Ferrite]

BigLeftToe wrote:

It is a terrible idea, it’s very much a standard working day for many. Some people have a lot of Friday’s off, shall we start moving games to 3pm on a Friday too?

Yes, let’s take a perfectly reasonable decision, one which has been clearly explained by the club giving good reasons, and just make up something nonsensical.

Club statement: King’s Lynn Town encounter

FWIW, I’m self-employed so I don’t get paid days off at any point, not even bank holidays, but you won’t hear me being outraged about this.

[Ferrite]

The Kidderminster game is an evening kick-off. Not my preference but not an outrageous decision.

A game on New Year’s Eve at 3pm is a good idea I reckon, lots of people are off work anyway, can use the game as the starting point of their NYE celebrations, rather than being dragged out of their beds on New Year’s Day. I agree that a bit of explanation of the thinking behind the change would be good but I don’t think it’s a terrible idea, personally.

2 users thanked author for this post.

Just Iron, cassidystash

[Ferrite]

Iron-awe wrote:

Getting the scallys to behave is the tough one, wonder how many flare attacks will take place this coming season?

“Flare attacks”!

These videos are wonderful, it’s such a great feeling to feel proud of our club again.

[Ferrite]

I hope the fella with the neck tattoos is better than the last one, Jack King.

[Ferrite]

How many clubs will be expecting to finish above us?

[Ferrite]

Siderite wrote:

Personally, I find that quite a narrow minded article based on stereotypes that do nothing but shore up an opinion that a manager, who despite being so good to guide crap England to semis and finals, wouldn’t be touched by top clubs or the nations with prestigious histories in tournaments. If France don’t succeed they wouldn’t touch Gareth with a barge pole, even if they get over the nationality issue.

I think it’s a clearly provocative article but it’s intention is, to my mind, to get people to think about WHY they have such high expectations of this group of players and how they view a manager who has been the most successful for England in the last 60 years.

[Ferrite]

This sums up my thoughts perhaps better than I have done on this thread:

https://www.football365.com/news/southgate-klopp-england-exactly-the-same-john-nicholson

[Ferrite]

It just feels like a film we’ve seen for decades – over-hyped “great” players who are apparently wonderful but who lack the technical ability to shine in an England shirt – hence why England players can’t keep the ball and end up giving it away cheaply in games. And yesterday was a real prime example of it. Rice was awful in possession, looked like someone pulled out of the stands to play, then there’s the fact that there are apparently only 2 English left-backs in the top flight, both of whom are injured. The goalkeeper doesn’t fill me with confidence either but where’s the competition there?

We can blame the manager all we like, and we clearly won’t be in the job after the end of the tournament, whenever that comes, but unless the game addresses the reasons behind the slim pickings in key areas (GK, LB, CB, CM) then I don’t see how things can improve massively. It’s all very well complaining that Grealish or that boy from Chelsea or whoever haven’t been picked but the issues run much deeper than that.

[Ferrite]

MK Iron wrote:

Can we have someone come on and tell me Southgate is doing a good job?

While you’re at it convince me why I am being unrealistic to expect we could do better than snatch a lucky draw against a team of reasonable Championship standard?

I’d point at Southgate’s record of semis & a final as being in the “credit” side of the ledger.

Yesterday wasn’t great and he has questions to answer but equally most of the players in that team couldn’t make a simple pass. Saka’s final ball was atrocious, I don’t think he found a teammate with a single cross. Foden looked better but shot wildly over when through on goal. Kane can’t/won’t move. These things can’t really be laid at the manager’s door and just shows how massively over-rated a lot of England’s players are.

Also, don’t most of Denmark’s team play in the Premier League too?

[Ferrite]

Peter Promise wrote:

Are you still allowed to park on Gunness straight?If not where can you park to get a prompt exit to Gunness or the M181 please?

You could last season as long as you’re fully off the road, which isn’t easy as there are potholes so deep you could hide in them.

[Ferrite]

I can see parallels between Grealish and McManaman – both exciting youngsters who could beat a man and “make things happen” but who both had that coached out of them at big clubs, their trophy-winning success coming at the price of their individual flair.

[Ferrite]

I have a theory that there has never been a good Puma shirt and their efforts at this tournament haven’t changed my mind.

The Adidas stripes suit the Italian shirt quite well, I reckon.

[Ferrite]

Just Iron wrote:

Agreed. Grealish has more competition than Shaw ..and I definitely think a fit Grealish would be a great option for any team at the Euros. I don’t know so much about his off field stuff but probably don’t think it’s affected his selection. Could be wrong but I think it’s down to lack of game time at City plus all our ‘riches’ being midfield and attack.

Has Grealish ever done anything in an England shirt? I can’t recall much. He has been neutered as a player at Citeh, he just dribbles slowly forwards and then passes it 5 yards sideways.

[Ferrite]

Never impressed me in an Iron shirt and the fact he’s dropped down a league, presumably for the cash, says plenty.

[Ferrite]

Deereyme66 wrote:

That’s ridiculous in my opinion. He won’t be and they do. I don’t think England players are over rated either. Not justified.

I think there is already an over-the-top level of criticism in the press and among England fans about last night’s performance. It was a good win against the best team in the group that virtually guarantees qualification, in a formation that gets the most out of the team’s best player. Lots to be positive about.

Siderite wrote:

That is on Southgate and I feel like he cannot get more out of the squad, so if we fail, I would like to see a fresh start with another manager who can maybe identify how to maximise the potential.

I think that this is typical of how England fans have a warped view of their team. What does “fail” mean? Because I reckon a lot of people think it translates as “don’t win the cup”. Similarly, maximising the potential of individuals is not the same as maximising the potential of the team. Just because there are a bunch of attacking midfielders available, that doesn’t make a team. He’s got no left backs and virtually no fit and/or experienced centre backs. The goalkeeper’s pretty ropey too. All that has to be balanced against attacking sacrifices.

Siderite wrote:

It doesn’t seem fair to make out that we have achieved more results under Southgate because of him alone and to say failures only come because of players alone, or vice versa

That’s fair but too often I think the opposite is true – the manager gets all the blame, the players get all the credit.

[Ferrite]

Deereyme66 wrote:

Yes, he is too defensive. Too often the team drifts into sitting back and deep after going ahead, unecessarily inviting pressure. I wouldn’t say England are no good, but IMO they are not fulfilling their potential in the slightest and the tactical nous looks bereft. Against a better side last night they’d have lost 2-1. I have no confidence in them dealing with the tournaments best. Really screwed if they go behind too. Just my opinion

Average of 2 goals a game, nearly half of which are in knock-out ties. 10 clean sheets in tournament matches.

England have never been any good apart from one summer in the late 1960s. England have no God-given right to do well in tournaments. England’s fans and press hounded a reasonably successful manager in Erikssen because of his apparent “defensiveness” because England did win well enough. England were absolutely terrible between Erikssen and Southgate.

England’s players are consistently over-rated, just because the Premier League is incredibly wealthy, and are consistently shown up by other country’s players in major tournaments.

Southgate has been by some distance the most successful England manager for my 40+ years on the planet but he’ll be vilified by the fans & press because England fans simply don’t know how to be happy.

[Ferrite]

1-0
1-2
3-0
3-0
0-0
6-2
1-1
2-1
4-0
2-0
1-0
0-0
1-0
1-2
2-0
1-1
0-1
6-1
2-1

Southgate’s major tournament record: 19 games, 37 goals scored, 12 conceded, only 2 games lost in normal time. But yes, Southgate is too defensive and England are no good.

[Ferrite]

Agree on Cleveland, one of Scunny’s most under-rated players. His contribution to the 2006/07 title was equal to that of Keogh, Sharp, Crosby, Foster, Murphy, etc.

I remember when Steve MacLean scored that goal at Hull, Cleveland pogo-d past the away end behind the goal, celebrating wildly. A proper Iron great.

1 user thanked author for this post.

Just Iron

[Ferrite]

WonderGoals wrote:

Fresh selection of Beverages including Birra Moretti, Cruzcampo and Inch’s Cider. Investment from Heineken as part of the deal means we will get new upgraded equipment in the cellar and bar areas for pouring and dispensing. That’s been needed for a long, long time.

Looks like the push to make the club better is also extending now to the catering operation. Good to see.

Is that for the Iron Bar WG? Or the bar under the Clugston stand?

Until there is some investment in the equipment in the catering areas, and in the staffing there, you can’t expect to see great improvements. If only we had been owned by someone who had a track record in the hospitality industry who could have used some of that “expertise” to make improvements.

[Author]

Posts