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Fair enough Cass, not how I saw it but I can understand why some other options might be better. Watching last night, I thought Beestin was completely anonymous and the fact we had no threat down the right-hand side, combined with Elliott looking anything but a centre forward, really hindered our attack.
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Pugh is number 30, who are you all watching?
Put it another way, what parts of his performance did you not enjoy? For me, he was the only one showing any real urgency, putting opponents under pressure, winning balls he would not have been expected to win. Yes he gives away too many fouls but with Butterfield alongside him, that should be a pretty decent central midfield for this division.
Yes, I should have made it clear I’m not trying to whip up a “Dean Out” campaign, I was just curious what people made of his first few games.
Nearly £2,000 a head for roughly half the average home support? It certainly seems ambitious.
There’s definitely merit in the idea but I’d like to know more, such as where the money’s going, do these shares entail any obligations like someone mentioned above with maintenance, how will future decisions on the ground be made (1 member 1 vote? Simple majority?), what happens if not all the shares are taken up?
Horrific for the whole family.
I can’t pretend I enjoyed Neil Cox’s time as a manager but I had a lot more time for him as a man and I think he’s been a big upgrade on Humberside from other summarisers. I hope he & his children are coping and are able to carry on with their lives.
Looks like a left sider from that clip, if not his positioning is awful.
Interesting if he starts Saturday, with Manny at the other end it could be a record for pens in a league match.Just had a similar conversation along those lines. Shinpads definitely required for all strikers!
We need to go into the last 16 games with the intent to win ALL 16 games. We cannot pick and choose what we want to win. We need to be 100% positive hence the 16 game winning run.
Out of interest, and I know this is not your point, but which games do you think a team goes in to not trying to win?
I’m already a big fan – check out the tackle he makes about 15 secs into these highlights. You cannot coach that.
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Ended up in a large function room where we were offered hot or cold drinks and snacks for which we weren’t asked for payment. As we tucked into our tea and sandwiches we realised the staff thought we were BPA “executives”!
Did they think one of you was John Helm?
Awaywego, we’ve moved on a fair few players out on loan.
And I’m sure Ilkeston, Farsley & Cleethorpes will all be covering a huge chunk of our wage bill….
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What about a set number of reviews of VAR per team per game?, in cricket teams are allowed so many reviews per innings then once they are used up then that’s your lot. Plenty of teams asking refs about the validity of a decision and then VAR is used, perhaps three per game and then you have no more left to question the ref?. Just a thought.
I think this would be terrible in football. In cricket you see loads of speculative reviews when teams try it on “just in case”. In cricket, the ball’s always dead at this point but at what point would you use them in football? Because I can see loads of teams using reviews late on in games to try to disrupt the opposition, perhaps even breaking up counterattacks? I just think it would add to the current confusion.
But ultimately while you’ve got people like WG who either don’t understand the laws of the game or who refuse to understand them, what help have we got?
The umpiring decisions in cricket have improved beyond measure. Not ‘like with like’ maybe, but rather, ‘like with similar’.
I agree in some respects but fundamentally I still hate that you can’t celebrate your team taking a wicket because you’ve no idea if it will actually be out or not when the umpire’s finger is raised.
The trouble with these technological approaches to refereeing/umpiring is that all you do is you narrow the window of debate: so whereas before we would look at a player half a yard beyond the last defender and all be pretty certain that he was offside, now we have to look at the leg hairs of the players to make the same decision. The same applies in cricket where run-outs/stumpings/no balls are judged by fractions of the players’ boot being behind the line – or not.
Frankly, we’ve reached this situation because as a game we weren’t mature enough just to shut up and accept decisions. You end up with Match of the Day spending no time analysing strikers missing open goals or defenders passing the ball straight to opponents, you just get loads of discussion of whether the referee’s decisions were “correct”. And a decision in football often isn’t “correct” because it’s a matter of interpretation by a human being. Pundits who talk about “correct decisions” are themselves fundamentally wrong.
When VAR was first proposed, the errors that were highlighted like Frank Lampard’s “goal” in the world cup against Germany, were such obvious errors that the solution was to work with officials and raise the general standard, not ruin the game for the sake of the odd gaffe.
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Buying a lot of players from the league below suggests a certain amount of bets being hedged – give them a chance to prove themselves in a higher league but in the knowledge they are solid performers if we go down.
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Not sure about O’Malley, from what I’ve seen his defending is a real problem for the side. Lovely set pieces are fine but there’s a reason managers don’t rely on him.
Can’t disagree with any of that IA, I have very little interest in Big Club football. Can’t remember the last time I watched Match of the Day. And I don’t really get what satisfaction you would get from supporting a club like Citeh or Chelsea.
They sold out then got cranky when they could not keep winning most things every season, hence the fair play rules. It’s a load of bollocks, they got what they deserved whilst the rest of the football structure was left to rot.
There’s some truth in what you say, but City aren’t being charged for the breaches of the rules, per se, but more for an alleged the cover-up & collusion.
It will take a massive effort certainly, but our chances are much better than they were 2 weeks ago.
We’ve “bought a ticket” as Adkins would have said!
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I think how you describe Man City can be applied to all the big clubs in the Premier League TBH Ferrite, it’s all about money and I don’t see Chelsea or Man U or Liverpool or Arsenal and now even Newcastle being any different.
No you can’t: Man United, Arsenal & Liverpool are owned by American investors, rightly or wrongly. But they’re not owned by a country which is accused of funding the football club through payments disguised as sponsorship. Nor are they accused to trying to cover up this illicit activity.
Chelsea is a closer case in point, Abramovich should never have been allowed to buy the club and use it the way he did.
I agree that all of the big clubs are only interested in making more money for themselves and not in the good of the game but Man United is a very different beast from Man City.
I don’t think that any of the football authorities, either in England or Int’l, will have the wallet or the desire to fight them.
Well if that’s the case why has the Premier League brought charges against its richest & most successful club?
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Far too early to be worrying about other teams yet. Oldham could be midtable by Easter. Halifax could continue their plummet down the table. York too.
Need 8 or 9 wins to get to 50 points (which is roughly what Oldham are on track for). That’s a huge ask.
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As pointed out already, they are innocent until proven guilty.
What I want to know is why, in 2023, are they going back to 2009? Have they not checked them out since then or are they incompetent?
It’s not only City who should be getting chased. There are a number of clubs around Europe who need reviewing.
Because in situations like this a club like City will have hired the finest legal minds to represent them and therefore these things take a lot of time.
It’s no surprise to me at all that City have been up to this, look at why their ownership is there. The current Man City has nothing to do with the Manchester City of the Maine Road days, it’s just a host body for the ownership.
And whilst I get Ironfromafar’s views, these things have an impact on clubs at our levels too, whether it’s clubs over-reaching to try to keep up with the Jones, B teams in the Football League trophy, or elite academies hoovering up all the best talent and depriving the lower league clubs of one of their main sources of revenue.
I hope that they throw the book at City but most of all I hope that they rip up the rulebook on club ownership so we cannot have countries owning football clubs.
Competition for places was desperately needed, no doubt about that at all.
Two ways of looking at a lot of these signings: something to prove vs. quickly discarded. Time will tell!
quite a few new signing while losing 90k a month?,” it’s his money “so they said once before.
Be wary people. I’d like to see a plan to stay afloat before I start crowing about this new guyI guess there’s also a cost to not doing anything given the current league position. But agreed that we should be wary of any owner splashing the cash.
Seems to be a quid pro quo for moving the away game to Friday night as well:
https://www.scunthorpe-united.co.uk/news/2022/october/barnet-fixture-date-changes-confirmed/
50 points is another 27 required. In 17 games, that’s 1.6 points/game. It basically means winning just over half our remaining games: not an easy ask when you’ve won 5 all season. But if we build on the last few weeks, it’s not completely impossible.
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Hmmm…. a player Barnet have let go after 6 months and who has played all his career down south (so it’s not like he’s leaving Barnet to be closer to home). Good luck to him, hopefully he’ll do well but it’s not the most exciting signing. Still, least it adds to the depth of the squad which is desperately needed.
All very well but there are plenty of dodgy owners who can prove the source of their wealth and who still shouldn’t be allowed to own clubs. We still need to break the model of one rich bloke owning a club.
And a second thought: having recently bought a house and had to jump through a bunch of hoops about proving where the money had come from etc., how is this rule not already in place? Surely it’s basic money laundering regs?
HOWEVER, the club could have gone to the wall, but at the 59th minute of the 11th hour it was saved.
He could have done what the Bury owner did……and didn’t (we’ll probably never know whether this was, or was not, an act of altruism towards us and the club, possibly with further financial loss attached to it).
The other thing I’m thankful for is that the Academy, as far as I know, survived all the cutting and asset stripping throughout the decline.
Discuss.I assume he was paid money for the club and therefore he wanted to make sure he maximised the return? Like making sure your house looks presentable when you try to sell it!
It’s not uncommon in these situations for players to follow an owner or a new manager to a club – I wonder if we’ll see a bunch of Peterborough Sports’ & Ilkeston’s players heading in our direction?
Electric Arc Furnace would mean a lot of job losses, I think
Loss of heavy end with ironworks, BOS plant, remaining coke ovens, sinter plant….
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