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Can anyone explain to me why Hilton is apparently leaking information out via some fan’s twitter account and not making proper public statements?

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64 wrote:

I do pay for sky sports for F1 so works out expensive as I don’t watch it a lot so can say hey deserve to be jailed for stealing ,these programmes cost a fortune to make even if its the Murdoch doing it

Don’t be such a Tory.

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Northumbiron

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The PL are going to be furious when they find out one of their member’s owners was pirating PL TV rights for years…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeoutQ

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Is this the same Max Bell who is a contributor to the podcast invited to Ilkeston for a puff piece at a time when the plan was to move the club’s operations to there?

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Anonymous wrote:

£345 for a seated season ticket.
Is that at GP?
Gainsborough?
Ilkeston?
Or take your own foldable deckchair down to a roped off pitch down’t ex tip?

Is no news, bad news?

I’d be very interested to know the bookies ‘views’ on this?

Hilton walks 1/xx
Swann bulldozers the ground 1/xx
Phoenix club formed 1/1 (Evs)
Hilton buys the club, lock stock & barrel and games go ahead at GP XXX/1
Swann resumes control and away we go again for more drama XX/1

I cannot understand why anyone would be buying a season ticket a) at that price and b) with all the uncertainty around the club at the moment.

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bartonscorpion

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Northumbiron wrote:

A better sweepstake would be “whose solicitors put the notice on the gates?”

The random capitalisation and wording suggest to me that it’s not a solicitor’s notice but I could be wrong.

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Deereyme66

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It shows a couple of things, one that players look better with better players around them, two that young players can improve quickly.

On that point, I was thinking that Cameron Wilson looks like a player who would really benefit from some coaching, he’s got the skills, he just needs more help to become more effective, hopefully he will get that at his next club and become the next Matt Godden or Kyle Wootton, showing us what we missed.

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Bigger problems on our plate I guess, we sometimes talk about not knowing where a new signing will play – but instead of which position, we’re wondering which ground/town he’ll play in!

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premier iron, lesgeo, cassidystash

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WonderGoals wrote:

Ferrite just going by what was said yesterday, we are to overspend in a bid to get straight back to National League but Dean has a budget and it will be sustainable.

Not quite sure how those two things go together – if we’re “overspending” then how is it “sustainable”?

WonderGoals wrote:

This isn’t any of Swann’s carry on. I wouldn’t have thought so anyway. Yes we’ll be paying decent wages but haven’t paid a fee so far and just think we’ll stick to bringing in free transfers.

I can’t remember now but did we pay many transfer fees under Swann’s regime? I don’t remember that being the case – the issue was always about the massive wage bill.

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Iron Age wrote:

Isn’t that the cause of the club’s current financial situation? The previous owner “gambled” on getting promotion to the Championship by paying more than the club could afford.

Yep, that’s exactly the point of my OP. All feels eerily familiar to 10 years ago.

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Northumbiron wrote:

Not that unusual for players to look downwards for a new challenge.

“New challenge” almost ALWAYS means “pay rise”. Unless there are no other offers on the table, it means they’ve gone for a pay rise. Nothing wrong with that from the player’s point of view, of course.

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Iron-awe wrote:

Agree with WG ( yes I know it’s a rarity ) but if the club can get these type of players in and be sustainable then I say bring it on. We can still attract reasonable crowds next season and if we can get off to a flyer they could well sustain, different scenario to when Swann was spending stupidly on players and wage deals we could not live with even on crowds around the 5000 mark.

That’s the question isn’t it? If…

Matty wrote:

I’m not complaining. It’s great to see some god damn ambition and positivity after a long period of shite! Looking forward to next season now. Hopefully more good news to come re the land acquisition UTI!

The trouble is, look where this “ambition” got us last time.

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WonderGoals wrote:

You’re saying that Ferrite but then again you’d moan if we signed cheap rubbish which you hadn’t heard of. You would have claimed we weren’t serious about making it straight back to the national league. I don’t think the club can win here.

This is a refreshing change.

You say this like there are only 2 options: spend too much, or spend too little. There is, of course, a third option which is to cut your cloth.

I’d be far less concerned if we were signing some of the best players from last season’s NLN. You’re right that it’s a good thing that we’re getting signings made early, no complaints there.

But is this a refreshing change or a repeat or past mistakes seen about 10 years ago?

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A planning application to build 302 houses on the Glebe Road site was rejected last year and a brief perusal of the planning docs makes for interesting reading. Application PA/2021/672.

“There appear to be significant constraints associated with the technical suitability of
the landfill materials and therefore significant re-engineering is required to form a
stable development platform which will not be subject to differential settlement.
The technical and legal feasibility of undertaking these works is unclear at this stage
and further information is required on this aspect along with the potential
environmental impacts of the re-engineering.”

So sounds unlikely a significant facility like a stadium could be built there – the Warren Road site to the north has had permission for industrial buildings (2005), so perhaps more positive there?

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Deereyme66

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cassidystash wrote:

Two from the NL, probably the best level we’re likely to attract.

A league above where we will be playing? Sounds about right.

God knows if they’ll be any good but the experience of the last 5 years or more suggests that it’s unlikely!

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Madden must be the most overrated player in the last 20-30 years of the club’s history, I think people just romanticise him because we’ve had so much dross since he left. But he was nowhere near the strikers who had come in the years before him (not fit to lace Hayes’ boots, for example).

Wootton has definitely matured physically and in terms of understanding his game since leaving the Iron but there was definitely potential there. He was better than anyone signed to replace him.

Always thought Jarvis looked pretty decent for me, although never likely to be that prolific he could have made an adequate own brand Steve Torpey for us this season.

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Pat O’Cake wrote:

So you think 10 weeks is long enough to sort out years of mis-managment?

I think a healthy dose of scepticism is a pre-requisite for any football fan.

Obviously settling the tax debt was important but, otherwise, what positive signs have you seen since Hilton’s takeover?

Because I would point out the following:
– Proposing to move the club to Ilkeston – on non-matchdays
– Proposing to shut down the academy before Tony Daws explained the situation
– Appointing Jimmy Dean & the scatter-gun transfer policy

If we hadn’t had the Swann era, do you reckon you would be cutting him less slack?

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TheJuryeffsOut, Deereyme66

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Hang on, why was the national anthem being played before a football match? Are we in America?

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open hearth iron, TwoWrights

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Lord Kitchener wrote:

We have fallen way too far, and this was directly because of our former chairman. Whatever your doubts about the new chairman and manager, we have to get behind them

The first sentence is the reason why the second sentence should not apply.

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Interested Bystander

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Anonymous wrote:

Both leagues have 24 teams – too many IMHO. 46 games on sub optimal pitches will result in injuries.

It’s like football didn’t exist 20 years ago! Besides, many of the grounds in NLN will have artificial pitches.

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The Iron Hour is 15 minutes Iron & 45 minutes of padding, which isn’t a great ratio. And the laddish “bantz” is pretty tedious too. The last one I heard ended with 10 minutes of laughing about something that wasn’t even that funny. Glad they’re having fun, and I think they’ve got a couple of people on there who could be a lot better, but it’s not for me at the moment.

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North Lincolnshire Irons

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At some point, we are going to have to realise that just changing all the players every 6 months isn’t going to solve our problems. Where’s the coaching? When is a manager going to improve some players and get more out of them? What about the people signing the players and scouting new ones?

This endless churn just creates instability.

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another fed up fan, North Lincolnshire Irons, lesgeo, Deereyme66

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Awaywego wrote:

Owner puts club up for sale followingfan abuse, just saying!

Club owners are the real victims in the mis-management of football clubs all over the country.

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WonderGoals wrote:

I know SST tries his best but to say the quality control on this forum is lax is an understatement. I would ban the whole lot if it was up to me get this back to how it was, an actual forum you could actually enjoy without certain people trying their hardest to ruin it for everybody else.

Oh the irony.

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IronIronIron

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Could they not have moved it to Ilkeston?

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BobbyGmeister, Northumbiron

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lesgeo wrote:

It’s the players – the only common denominator.

My biggest worry for next season is how many are still under contract.
Getting rid of contracted players isn’t easy.

Which players? The 14 signed since January? A number of the contracted players for next season are Dean signings (Chapman, Elliott) and most of the others are just inexperienced youngsters (Lewis, Foster, Shrimpton). And Tom Pugh whose contract was extended under Dean’s watch I believe.

Aside from Beestin, I don’t think any of the contracted players were with the club in August (in the first team at least), so why do we think that another complete overhaul will make any difference? We’ve been throwing the pieces up in the air every 6 months for years and we keep getting worse results. At some point, we need to consider other options.

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Can’t comment on his tactics but I hope he’s not as defeatist in the dressing room as he is in his interviews, he comes across as anything but a leader. I always wasn’t impressed with the way he seemed to wash his hands of any responsibility for the results since he took over in his interview on Saturday – saying that it needed a lot of turning round and a lot of new players – well, you signed most of the squad Jimmy, so why should we trust you to do it all over again?

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North Lincolnshire Irons, Sharp_Shooter24

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WonderGoals wrote:

Bystander give it a rest you’re a quid shop, glue sniffing version of Miss Marple.

ironfromafar wrote:

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Your fascination ,no obsession with hunting down DH to the extent of what his favourite bog roll is and if hes tanga or boxer really has become more tedious than the media v Harry n Megs … to you and a hand full of others it may be of interest and make your trousers move alas me and im guessing most other normal SUFC fans just dont give a shit and are simply waiting to see the outcome re the GP issue ..DH saved our club paid off its tax and other debts for that alone i am very grateful

Why are we blaming the messenger?

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WonderGoals wrote:

Good enough defensively though to add cover to a more defensively sound LB. I think he’d flourish on the wing. Another important thing about him is that he doesn’t get injured too often either.

I think we could do a hell of a lot worse then him and plus he’s versatile as he can play in CM at a push too.

It’s amazing how often attacking left backs don’t convert into left wingers, probably because the skillsets are more different than people realise. We saw it tried at Scunthorpe with Marcus Williams; we saw it at England with Ashley Cole & Wayne Bridge, it never worked. Running onto an overlap is very different from beating a man from a standing start, for example.

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Northumbiron

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If it was all about the football Pat, you wouldn’t pick Scunthorpe United as your team to follow!

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