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Awaywego wrote:

That sounds fine Ferrite that’ll leave us with a squad of 24 that’s roughly £60,000 a week £3 million a year in player wages alone. Where would all that money come from.

No idea but that is one of my concerns.

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Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

Either way, there’s a funding shortfall from the EFL and that is not going to be made up by selling assets as we don’t produce enough: It had to go. The wrong decision was the u-turn.

Am I right the shortfall is reported as being £250,000/year? That’s roughly £5,000/week. Which is, what, two players? I’m sure we could spare a couple of midfielders to save the youth set-up.

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Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

Considering the funding deficit this year and even more so the year after, closing the academy should have been the first decision.

I don’t know the detailed ins & outs of the finances of that part of the club (and I suspect you don’t either) but the claim made by our current leader that it hasn’t produced anyone saleable in a number of years seems to be incorrect. Also, if you produce a youth team player who can play in the first team you can avoid signing an external player. So that’s another way to offset the running costs.

I can understand that the owner would be looking to cut costs but when that’s balanced against the sheer number of signings (one of whom has immediately gone out on loan!) it does seem like a very short-term approach.

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Deereyme66

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I already have done – your unnecessary patronising comment about another poster has already said it.

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So is this another youth team product now with a football league team, even though the academy hasn’t produced any saleable players according to our current leader?

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Pat O’Cake wrote:

You wouldn’t need to unless he needs someone to put cones out.

Will you be providing us with a list of acceptable professions required for stating an opinion on SUFC? Just to avoid any future confusion.

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CMC wrote:

Lost any respect for him when he signed for Donny.

Signing on Fee whore.

What a ludicrous opinion.

Good luck to him in the States, bit of a change from Sheffield!

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sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

Solely for the benefit of Northumbiron.

Not just NI, not sure many of us have got the time to read between your many lines.

Do we know what this judgement relates to or do we have to look that up too?

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bartonscorpion, BigLeftToe, Iron-awe, cassidystash, Northumbiron

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Amazing how often businessmen seem to point the finger at regulation being what causes them problems.

If the club was aware of this, why was it still selling tickets above the specified steward/supporter ratio?

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Iron-awe wrote:

The plan I believe was to turn over the wage bill ratio to favour the playing squad rather than other staff, so you’ve answered your own question in a way. Sorry Ferrite I was replying to your question but AA jumped in first.

That’s fair but if we’re immediately loaning him out, I’m not sure what the cost/benefit is? It feels at best a luxury that I would not have thought we could really allow ourselves at the moment.

Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

Plays right back/centre back. Offers cover in both positions. Can justify that signing.

But he won’t be here until Christmas…

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Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

I can understand the Barrows loan; broke his leg in November and needs the minutes, highly unlikely to displace Ogle either.

So why did we sign him in the first place, given we’ve apparently got very little money and are cutting staff costs left, right & centre?

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So we signed Barrow in the summer and loan him out after 1 game? Call me crazy but that seems a strange way of doing things.

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Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

Think the Neil Wright experiment showed why it won’t work; supporters want transparency and that’s in direct conflict with the boards role. Have meetings with fan’s groups by all means though.

Good to see another member appointed, especially from the local area.

I reckon the issue with it is more whether the chair/owner genuinely wants someone in that role as a key part of how they run the club, or if it is just a token position to pay lip service to the fans.

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I’d forgotten Notts County although I guess that’s slightly different with it being a pretty large allocation, so I imagine most folk who wanted one will have got one.

Did we really sell out the away end at Brammall Lane? Some effort if that was the case.

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cassidystash wrote:

Are you sure? Doesn’t sound like the sort of thing that………. Ah well, maybe. I expect it was the council being difficult, has to be their fault surely.

If you read the story I linked to above, you will see that is almost exactly the Coolsilk response.

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cassidystash

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MK Iron wrote:

Not open yet. Trip Advisor quotes the bar/restaurant part which had previously opened without the hotel part is now permanently closed.

I think that might be an old establishment of the same name:
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g186332-d23630968-Reviews-Spyglass_Bar-Blackpool_Lancashire_England.html?m=19905

The reviews are what you might expect.

No sign of the hotel opening, last I saw he’d got into a dispute with the council:

https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/politics/eyesore-set-to-be-removed-from-blackpool-town-centre-ahead-of-museum-opening-3757835

Older articles talk about a 2019 opening.

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Iron-awe wrote:

Well he walked off the pitch, not many players with broken legs do that.

When we played Palace in the Cup around 1997, Paul Warhurst walked off the pitch at half time but didn’t reappear for the second half. On the radio on the way home, they said he’d broken his leg! Unless he slipped in the shower, presumably it had happened during the game?

Didn’t Stuart Pearce try to play on with a broken leg too?

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MK Iron wrote:

Not enough players left due to red cards and injuries. More common in South America but I vaguely remember it happening here.

Famous Sheffield United v. West Brom.

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Floodlights failing and electricity supply failure another 2. There must have been a bomb scare or 2 as well.

There was a Man United game called off for a bomb scare a couple of years ago but I think that was before kick off, rather than an abandonment.

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MK Iron

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Our charismatic manager seemed to think he’d broken his leg, hopefully that’s not the case.

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Pitch invasion like the Blackpool v. Huddersfield game at the end of the season a few years back.

Presumably things like referee injuries, or incidents in the crowd would be on the list too.

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Positive signs – what sort of Hull team was it?

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That was probably the same month as the 4-4 with Northampton then? When Ben May scored and celebrated by squaring up to their centre back.

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I think it’s the only game I’ve been to that’s been abandoned – had a couple of last-minute postponements, including Cheltenham (A) literally as I turned into Whaddon Road.

Anyone remember an FA Cup tie around 2009-10 played in dense fog. It was non-league opposition, possibly from Nottinghamshire area, but can’t recall their name. Can anyone remember? I think we won 4-0 or 4-1.

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There was a Auto Windscreens game at home to Carlisle in the late 90s/early 00s which was abandoned at half time, if memory serves due to a frozen pitch.

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SST

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Patrick0811 wrote:

If you have been to all that many non league grounds you should know full well all your games will involve segregation…. and bit have to wonder about it?

Not many grounds at the levels I’ve been to have had segregation other than for certain games. For example, I’ve only seen it twice at Gainsborough I think, in 20-30+ visits.

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Patrick0811 wrote:

Very few games in our league are ticket matches, and think you will find the same now you have dropped down another league, you may find Scunthorpe are the exception because of your large away fan base, last season the only one I remember was ticket, your first game this year at Tamworth.

Yep but away games don’t matter for the purposes of our catering, do they?

You don’t need to lecture me on non-league football, I’ve been to dozens of non-league grounds all over the country, I know what to expect. Will be interesting to see if segregation is enforced at all our games and – as you indicate – for the first time in our history it might be tricky to get tickets for the away end for a Scunthorpe game.

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Patrick0811 wrote:

The weather, and the attendance, being major factors. when I first started catering for large crowds I got it wrong more times than right, but the mistakes are what give you the experience to get the balance right by being very much on the ball watching the supporters carefully before kick off, if you see damn well it’s going to be packed you have up till half time (the rush hour) to quickly prep as much as possible, meaning if you do have some waste it is not so bad because you have taken a good few quid.

Virtually every game these days is pre-ticketed – the vast majority of tickets are sold in advance, so clubs have a pretty good idea of how many will turn up.

Patrick0811 wrote:

Reasonable question you ask, but the outside caterers would charge far more to the supporters for the food, I have witnessed that at many grounds where this happens, the club usually charge them an agreed fee for the pitch so the caterers over charges to cover it.

Depends how you structure the contract: do they pay a fee, meaning they have to recover that fixed cost before making any profit? Or do you do it like a franchise where you set the prices but rely on another company’s expertise, economies of scale & staffing structure to leave them headroom for a profit?

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The last bloke was good at talking about problems, let’s see if the new guy is better at fixing them.

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Yeah, the local stations are really getting hollowed out with all of the cuts forced on the Beeb, a real shame.

I think the DAB broadcast is only local.

I do think it’s daft that the EFL won’t let local radio stations broadcast their games on the BBC digital platforms, makes no sense.

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That was certainly the case for us last season Rich, for someone living outside the Humberside FM area it was very handy to be able to listen to games online.

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