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Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

We found the money for another 3 midfielders when they weren’t needed so there’s some change kicking about

Well there are no more replica shirts for fans to buy in the shop because of Hilton’s legacy, I don’t know if this is also affecting the first team’s kit?

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I wondered that but I think he’s probably an all-round diver?

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A quite incredible number of tickets sold, well done to the club and everyone who has got involved in making it happen.

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BigLeftToe wrote:

Jarvis had a hard time whilst he was here but he always worked his socks off. Did really well in the NL last season in a relegation side and would be a lot better than what we currently have (in my opinion of course). Worth a punt as WG would say!

I was thinking similarly, always good in the air even in that terrible Cox/Hill team. Got a lot of goals in a poor Torquay team last season.

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cassidystash wrote:

Difficult to convince players to move that far I’d say. (Unless they have Northern roots)
I remember Lee Hodges claiming it was 10 degrees colder in Scunny and he was only moving from London.

Is Aaron Jarvis still there? Could be a handy targetman for this side?

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Classic abusive partner behaviour.

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Deereyme66

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I presume it’s just Awaywego on a new login?

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WonderGoals wrote:

What are fans supposed to do cliff, accept mediocrity just because we still have a club ?. Very dangerous attitude to have, cliff. That’s the kind of attitude which stunts progression.

One of the most corrosive things in football these days is fans “demanding ambition” from their club’s owners. As CBRP says, this is the sort of thing that just encourages over-spending and short-termism. Far too much of it around.

Spending money the club doesn’t have, getting into debt, not investing in anything long-lasting: ring any bells from the last 10 years?

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Torquay entering administration, Blyth sold to goodness-knows-who, Rochdale on the brink: for all of our problems this year, we still need to be thankful for the fact we still have a club and trust the people who are running it now.

It’s never going to be an easy walk back to glory, there will be plenty of bumps in the road, this is one of them.

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This is an area where the club has been severely lacking in recent years, good on the new board for trying something new.

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Rene Artois wrote:

I can see attendances in NLN next season:

Midweek: 1,500 to 1,800
Saturday: 2,250 to 2,500

Unless we’ve got a recreation of the Keith Hill team, then no chance.

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iron64 wrote:

whatever the financial implications of sacking JD (put him out of misery) they may be greater if we lose 1000 fans (£10/12 000, conservative estimate) over the remaining home games

Do you mean 1,000 fans a game? I really can’t see that sort of drop-off, crowds have been pretty healthy this season and haven’t really tailed off in recent weeks. The Tamworth attendance was obviously a bit of a freak for a number of reasons but I’m not sure that’s the standard to judge everything against.

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I remember 2 late goals at Millwall from Garry Hooper to win a game there, at least 1 of them was from a great long pass.

That’s the great thing about football: there’s always more than 1 way to play the game, and tactics always evolve in response to the way teams play.

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Ironawe wrote:

But it sounds like he’s lost the dressing room. The players seem not to respect him (and that is the players fault as well). It’s a difficult one because a long term stay in this division will provide stability but the club as we know it will be a shadow of its former self. I really struggle to stay engaged in the quality of football, officials, pitches, grounds etc I go to every home game even though I have to travel, and watch on NLTV and I can’t believe what I watch half the time. It’s not entertainment, and if this is what sustainability looks like then who is going to be in it for the long term? Maybe 1,000-1,500 hardcore of fans

We’re still second in the league and have won more points than the last 2 seasons combined, we’ve scored 6 in a couple of games too. It’s not all been bad.

I agree it’s been garbage recently but let’s not forgot what’s gone before.

There’s no reason why stability = bad football, it just means we have to be more careful with our money and get better bang for our buck. More Wharton years, less like the Swann years.

We spent huge amounts under Swann but did we ever really overachieve? Did we have many players who exceeded themselves in an Iron shirt? I’d argue no.

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There’s a big difference between a long pass & a long ball.

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Hoof ball can be just as tedious (John Beck’s Lincoln anyone? Any Keith Alexander team?) but there definitely needs to be some sort of balance.

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Ironawe wrote:

Must be linked to gate receipts only though? If in playoffs we would probably make up 95% of attendance at home and 40-50% away (depending on opponent/ allocation etc). if I were Scunny I would be doing tickets for a fiver but you’ve got to buy a monthly lottery ticket!

In cup ties, the clubs have to agree on the admission prices. You sometimes see smaller clubs going to a Premier League side in the FA Cup and fans being charge big money because the small club wants to maximise their earnings and won’t agree to, say, £10 admission.

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Just an application to change the schedule for an existing approved application, it seems. Says it was originally granted permission in 2021.

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wotnowbrncow wrote:

I fear Clunan may be a poundshop Justin Walker

Bit of a Poundshop Jim Goodwin too, with all the pointing & telling other players how to do their jobs.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

Justin was a poundshop Beckham. In hair anyway.

And penchant for Adidas Predator boots too.

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Ironawe wrote:

That seems an odd set up for the playoffs. Why only 25% of revenue? (Presumably you mean ticket sales not match day revenue?) so if our home match generated, say £60k of ticket money we only get £15k? It’s 25% of the revenue after costs? So with policing and other match costs it could be break even at best? Not heard this before

Similar in the Football League play-offs, I believe, there is a sizeable share with the rest of the league. And similar to the FA Cup where there’s something like a 40-40-20 split between each team & a central pot.

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Highest budget in the history of National League north with the best support so if he can’t do it, he needs to be sacked immediately.

I don’t necessarily disagree with this and I don’t rate or particularly like Dean but we have to recognise that what Tamworth are doing is beyond freakish. They’re currently on course for 100 points, which is ridiculous. We’re on course for around 82, which in most recent seasons in this league would be a solid second place and often even enough to win the league.

Of course he should be doing better, but sometimes your opponents are just too good. Must be how clubs like Bristol City felt when we were ripping up League 1 in 2007.

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Clunan makes Justin Walker look like one of the most incisive passers we’ve ever had!

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WonderGoals wrote:

Pretty shocked he’s at least not on the bench to get the odd 10-15 minutes here and there.

Not arguing with your assessment of Poulter and that goal for Clee Town is a belter, but who are you leaving off the bench to include him, with only 5 subs available?

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BarnardFoxtonBarker.. wrote:

IFA I don’t think their bans start until 7 days after being sent off in this hell hole of a league.

Correct, my theory on this being that at this level clubs have to carry smaller squads and so might need a bit of warning to cover gaps left by suspended players.

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Gurnelista wrote:

As for assisted dying, it is indeed legal in many enlightened countries. But not here, yet. Again, it’s a victimless crime. There are loads of ‘em.

It is but there need to be safeguards against coercion and exploitation of potential victims. Don’t want to end up with a Monty Python “not dead yet” scenario!

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It would finish during the black-out, so seems unlikely to me.

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cassidystash wrote:

Any chance of this being streamed as it’s no longer Saturday 3.00 ko do you think?

Low; being a 1pm kick-off, it will finish within the blackout window, which starts at either 14:30 or 14:45, I forget exactly when.

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Personally, I’d accept any bids which might still be on the table for Elliott. Much as he has his moments, it’s clear that he & Whitehall aren’t dovetailing as a partnership and trying something different might not be a bad thing.

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I understood it that we’ve not cleared all the debt yet but the league is satisfied at our efforts and clearly believes that this board will honour its commitments.

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