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  • in reply to: If Butlers here in 6 months #292992
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    414 must be a Cod Head, seeing how desperate he/she is to see SUFC fail. Are we not still top? Have we not just won a game 6-chuffing-0 in the league?

    No one is pretending everything is perfect, only a fool would do that, but after years of wading through slurry we are finally in a good place and the team is doing well on the pitch. If it all goes to cock, whinge away at the end, but imagine that this season ends with our first promotion in over a decade and all you’ve done all season is moan, grumble, complain, and demand the manager is sacked?

    in reply to: If Butlers here in 6 months #292947
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    Butlers full of shite, if he’s not defensively minded first and foremost then the grass must not be green.

    A football expert speaks.

    in reply to: If Butlers here in 6 months #292941
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    Just got back from a week away, logged on to the forum, and am shocked to see that we are languishing in the relegation zone. Because surely no sane fan can be whinging about a young, promising manager who has led the club to the top of the table whilst having to deal with a vastly reduced budget, combining highly paid stars with more modestly remunerated squad members?

    in reply to: Butler the new Dean? #292273
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    Are we still litigating this? Jimmy Dean, that outstanding manager who built on his successful time at SUFC to take a job in a higher league? That Jimmy Dean?

    in reply to: Trinity #292088
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    One of the major failings of the Swann era was, in my opinion, the complete overlooking of youth-team players. Until of course we massively over-corrected and just played completely under-cooked youngsters in the first team.

    A lot of promising talent was overlooked in favour of over-paid, under-achieving signings. And judging by some of the players who’ve thrived since leaving, that has really cost us.

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    in reply to: Trinity #292076
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    A great club, I hope they have a fantastic FA Cup run:

    “Trinity were elected to the Football League in 1896, and the first League match at the ground was played on 12 September 1896, with 2,000 spectators watching a 1–1 draw with Manchester City.

    The record attendance for a Football League match at the Northolme was set on 29 April 1911, when 5,600 saw Trinity beat Chelsea 3–1.

    Pretty sure Trinity are responsible for our record defeat, something like 18-0, back in the 1920s when Trinity were possibly still a Football League club.

    in reply to: Tuchel #291994
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    I’m sure the English press will give him a fair crack of the whip and the England fans will not get on his back for failing to live up to their ludicrous expectations.

    in reply to: Trinity #291993
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    Good luck to Trinity, I’d say they have a fair chance of making R2 having drawn Hednesford.

    Is Declan any relation to Callum Howe?

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    in reply to: Trinity #291975
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    Happy to put millions out of work then?
    Happy to pay more in tax to make up the government shortfall?
    Choices.

    Clearly you missed that I wasn’t being entirely serious. But equally, the same specious arguments were used when smoking bans were first mooted.

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    in reply to: Trinity #291950
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    Why? It’s not compulsory, lots of people bet responsibly and enjoy it.

    Not for any moral reasons but just because:

    a) Other people’s bets are as interesting as other people’s dreams and other people’s kids

    and b) It leads to really awful, abusive online behaviour. Just look at Rene’s words about the ref. Often the racial abuse of players you read about after missed penalties, own goals etc. is from people complaining about the bets being ‘ruined’.

    Oh and c) it ruins lives. Maybe that is a moral reason.

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    in reply to: Trinity #291946
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    This thread is a great example of why betting should be banned.

    in reply to: A trip down memory lane. #291859
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    When that Flo penalty was missed there was a momentary silence from myself and the crowd there, as it took me (and probably everyone) else by surprise and we needed time to process. I remember the second leg finishing 0-0, but with both teams having chances to win. The final eclipsed it though.

    I think the reason for that was also because we were so far away and you couldn’t tell if it had gone in off the bar until Murphy got up and started running off like a maniac!

    in reply to: Do we have the worst fans in England? #291806
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    so it appears you’re just having a dig at the Board for the sake of it.

    Almost like he’s just a tedious wind-up merchant.

    in reply to: Do we have the worst fans in England? #291798
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    I think what frustrates me is the complete lack of perspective among a section of the Iron fanbase, combined with the vocal section which cheered on Swann & Hilton’s ruinous spending for the last decade. We’re not rich any more. We’re not going to blast our way through this league – if that was going to happen, the time was last season but sadly we had a completely incompetent manager.

    And I don’t think it’s just this board or social media – just have to see the IronArmy vid from Guiseley to disprove that.

    in reply to: New Signings #291797
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    Agreed, however, it doesn’t stop the manager playing a system to get the best out of the players at his disposal. In my opinion, the current league position is simply papering over the cracks and I suspect we won’t remain top for much longer without a rethink.

    In addition, the fact we nearly lost our club shouldn’t be used as an excuse to accept mediocrity.

    I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with the first part of that but that’s not the point I was making.

    The second part, about an “excuse to accept mediocrity” sounds dangerously close to when people demand that a club “shows some ambition” which always means spending more money.

    in reply to: New Signings #291763
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    So the players we signed with our own money, that we can actually afford, might not be as good as the ones for whom a previous owner “paid” massively over the odds for? Well, that’s a big surprise.

    Grow up, get behind the team, have a look at the league table, and support the club that we so nearly lost.

    in reply to: FA warn Hilton #290714
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    Matlock play Gainsborough tonight, wonder if any familiar faces will be in attendance, perhaps to discuss future groundshares?

    in reply to: National League North Highlights Channel #290555
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    I saw that the other day too and assumed it was just me being late to the party. The highlights from the Kidderminster game were much better than the club’s ones.

    in reply to: Bustin Beestin #290551
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    Ogle’s forward runs were definitely a strength but too often he ran into traffic and didn’t provide a decisive cross/pass. I’d be interested to know if Iron Stats has the numbers on how many assists/goals he provided in his time here.

    Liking Barrows a lot this season. Just a thought – as good a player as Ogle is – was part of his appeal to do with mullet wigs and affability?

    Quite possibly it was, but there’s nothing wrong with that I reckon, Scunny fans have been starved of any sort of totemic player for so many years.

    in reply to: Warrington Town FC #290550
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    What I’ve been impressed with so far this season is the way Butler has come up with different plans to beat different teams. We don’t have the one-size-fits-all approach of Dean. Which is not to say that Butler will always come up with the right option but it does give me hope that he’ll have had Warrington properly scouted and will know their strengths and weaknesses.

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    in reply to: Squad Rotation #290511
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    I don’t think it has always worked, or will, but 6 times out of 7 so far is not a bad return on the new style of using substitutions.

    Nothing’s ever going to be perfect.

    in reply to: Iron Ow-er #290492
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    I gave it another listen yesterday and in fairness it wasn’t as bad as previous ones I’d listened to. Thought the best bit was the guy from Radio Staffordshire to tell us about Newcastle Town, I wonder if the Bru guys have ever thought about getting on contributors from other teams?

    in reply to: Iron Ow-er #290452
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    Not listened in a long time – still lots of painfully forced “bantz”?

    in reply to: Raising their game #290421
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    Completely agree, the increased fitness levels from last season have pushed performance levels to new highs and the squad togetherness is great to see.

    That’s an important part of it but I reckon that it’s about attitude too. Whether it’s Whitehall focussing more on football than spraying water bottles, or midfielders making runs into the box. Suggests players are completely buying into it.

    in reply to: Jimmy’s gone. Get over it. #290404
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    God that interview, still makes Neil Cox seem like Mr Motivator!

    in reply to: Top of the table clash, again. #290400
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    There is more to life than the footy … thought it does help keeping ones mind active in times of intense grief.

    Amen to that.

    I’ll never forget being at Donny the day after Billy Sharp’s infant child had died. I was watching with a family member who had been through a similar experience. The tears of pain during the minute’s silence turned to tears of joy when Sharp scored and celebrated wildly. I can’t imagine what Sharp was feeling that night but I imagine those 90 minutes will have helped him deal with it all.

    Sorry for your loss IFA, remember you’re always part of the Iron family.

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    in reply to: Bustin Beestin #290399
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    Beestin the standout performer so far this season? Superbly taken goal. Big credit to Barrows for the cross too, never got that sort of final ball from Ogle.

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    in reply to: Jimmy’s gone. Get over it. #290398
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    good luck to JD .. cracking bloke .. he remained diligent and focused in our clubs darkest days and even with the Hilton monkey on his back he did OK .. wishing him success at SFC

    In what way was he a “cracking bloke”? Remember when he took a game off to go to a wedding? Can’t remember too many other managers doing that.

    Surprised by the assessments of Hurst on this thread, as I remember it he’d had to turn around that disastrous side that got relegated from League 1 after barely winning a game in the second half of the season, and was getting us going when Swann decided to sack him anyway. We did not improve after he left.

    in reply to: Michelle, Lee Turnbull & James Moody podcast #290295
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    7 XL exists?

    Asking for a friend?

    in reply to: Kidderminster #290256
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    An important game to WIN!

    No such thing in August. But 3 points would be very nice.