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No one is irreplaceable and money needs to be spend more wisely in future.

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Siderite wrote:

Not so much for Beck, but Carlton has previously played on the wing. Fadera was more of a worry for his confidence and, so far, I think Fadera has impressed more.

At home, I would still like to see Beestin as the centre forward, like at the start of the season, with the faster and/or skillful players behind him, e.g. Roberts, Carlton, Fadera. Different horses for different courses.

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Siderite wrote:

Maybe, but Swann’s due diligence wasn’t much given he soon found out that Hilton had swindled him and came to post on here about him being hoodwinked. Some of it could have been hidden, but given it all swapped over to Hilton so quickly, I don’t think there was that much scrutiny.

The biggest number is not always the best offer. A textbook example of that.

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Cliff Byrne's Right Peg

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There’s me thinking that in our previous two games we had secured points with second half goals from substitutes.

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If we have a team built on players with League 1/2-level wages, trying to add to a squad with players on NLN wages was always going to be a challenge. I was never that taken on Nicholson, couldn’t ever see him succeeding in a team which was going to dominate possession. Alright as a ‘stopper’ but not much more.

The one that surprises me is Brogan, especially when he was offered a new contract before Christmas. But there’s still time for him to come good, I guess.

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*Alan Partridge shrug gif*

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Deereyme66 wrote:

Their scorer was given way too much time and space to open up the opportunity. I’ll have to look back but seems very harsh to be blaming Fitz in any way.

Hard to say for certain from the highlights but whilst there was plenty of blame to go around on that goal, the ball did seem to go right in the middle of the goal close to Fitzsimons. Appreciate he might have been unsighted but I suspect he’d be disappointed to have conceded that shot.

Mind, I think their keeper made a mistake for our goal too, did he think it was going wide?

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Awaywego wrote:

Fitz made a great save or mo fadera goal for man of the match.

Their goal seemed to go straight through Fitzsimons, not for the first time in recent weeks.

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I haven’t got time to get through the whole of Renée’s novel but one thing it highlights is that Swann did absolutely nothing to grow crowds, even with all the money spent on players. A pretty damning indictment.

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Won’t be easy but one we really could do with winning, if nothing else to give us confidence for bigger tests in the future. Up the Iron!

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Sanfran49 wrote:

I am more concerned re the wording “would not be able raise a squad” !

Hope Spalding are OK.

Getting a team out at short notice can be a challenge for part-time teams when players often rely on good will from employers for availability.

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Ironawe wrote:

We should be looking at league two squad player loans who are used to the more physical demands of lower league football. Done right we can add sufficient depth where needed. A substantial injury to Whitehall and/or Roberts and we’re done for.

Perhaps but there’s equally no way we can afford to carry suitable replacements for them in the squad, nor will higher-up clubs be happy for their youngsters to come and sit on the bench at GP as cover.

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I’m generally not in favour of loanees, they rarely succeed and the players we’re likely to get at this level and unlikely to be hot prospects.

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lesgeo

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Is the right option to cash in on one of those 7 players to help offset the cost of keeping the others?

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414 must be a Cod Head, seeing how desperate he/she is to see SUFC fail. Are we not still top? Have we not just won a game 6-chuffing-0 in the league?

No one is pretending everything is perfect, only a fool would do that, but after years of wading through slurry we are finally in a good place and the team is doing well on the pitch. If it all goes to cock, whinge away at the end, but imagine that this season ends with our first promotion in over a decade and all you’ve done all season is moan, grumble, complain, and demand the manager is sacked?

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Butlers full of shite, if he’s not defensively minded first and foremost then the grass must not be green.

A football expert speaks.

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Just got back from a week away, logged on to the forum, and am shocked to see that we are languishing in the relegation zone. Because surely no sane fan can be whinging about a young, promising manager who has led the club to the top of the table whilst having to deal with a vastly reduced budget, combining highly paid stars with more modestly remunerated squad members?

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Are we still litigating this? Jimmy Dean, that outstanding manager who built on his successful time at SUFC to take a job in a higher league? That Jimmy Dean?

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One of the major failings of the Swann era was, in my opinion, the complete overlooking of youth-team players. Until of course we massively over-corrected and just played completely under-cooked youngsters in the first team.

A lot of promising talent was overlooked in favour of over-paid, under-achieving signings. And judging by some of the players who’ve thrived since leaving, that has really cost us.

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Rene Artois wrote:

A great club, I hope they have a fantastic FA Cup run:

“Trinity were elected to the Football League in 1896, and the first League match at the ground was played on 12 September 1896, with 2,000 spectators watching a 1–1 draw with Manchester City.

The record attendance for a Football League match at the Northolme was set on 29 April 1911, when 5,600 saw Trinity beat Chelsea 3–1.

Pretty sure Trinity are responsible for our record defeat, something like 18-0, back in the 1920s when Trinity were possibly still a Football League club.

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I’m sure the English press will give him a fair crack of the whip and the England fans will not get on his back for failing to live up to their ludicrous expectations.

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Good luck to Trinity, I’d say they have a fair chance of making R2 having drawn Hednesford.

Is Declan any relation to Callum Howe?

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cassidystash wrote:

Happy to put millions out of work then?
Happy to pay more in tax to make up the government shortfall?
Choices.

Clearly you missed that I wasn’t being entirely serious. But equally, the same specious arguments were used when smoking bans were first mooted.

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cassidystash

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cassidystash wrote:

Why? It’s not compulsory, lots of people bet responsibly and enjoy it.

Not for any moral reasons but just because:

a) Other people’s bets are as interesting as other people’s dreams and other people’s kids

and b) It leads to really awful, abusive online behaviour. Just look at Rene’s words about the ref. Often the racial abuse of players you read about after missed penalties, own goals etc. is from people complaining about the bets being ‘ruined’.

Oh and c) it ruins lives. Maybe that is a moral reason.

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Awaywego

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This thread is a great example of why betting should be banned.

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Siderite wrote:

When that Flo penalty was missed there was a momentary silence from myself and the crowd there, as it took me (and probably everyone) else by surprise and we needed time to process. I remember the second leg finishing 0-0, but with both teams having chances to win. The final eclipsed it though.

I think the reason for that was also because we were so far away and you couldn’t tell if it had gone in off the bar until Murphy got up and started running off like a maniac!

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Deereyme66 wrote:

so it appears you’re just having a dig at the Board for the sake of it.

Almost like he’s just a tedious wind-up merchant.

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I think what frustrates me is the complete lack of perspective among a section of the Iron fanbase, combined with the vocal section which cheered on Swann & Hilton’s ruinous spending for the last decade. We’re not rich any more. We’re not going to blast our way through this league – if that was going to happen, the time was last season but sadly we had a completely incompetent manager.

And I don’t think it’s just this board or social media – just have to see the IronArmy vid from Guiseley to disprove that.

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Agreed, however, it doesn’t stop the manager playing a system to get the best out of the players at his disposal. In my opinion, the current league position is simply papering over the cracks and I suspect we won’t remain top for much longer without a rethink.

In addition, the fact we nearly lost our club shouldn’t be used as an excuse to accept mediocrity.

I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with the first part of that but that’s not the point I was making.

The second part, about an “excuse to accept mediocrity” sounds dangerously close to when people demand that a club “shows some ambition” which always means spending more money.

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So the players we signed with our own money, that we can actually afford, might not be as good as the ones for whom a previous owner “paid” massively over the odds for? Well, that’s a big surprise.

Grow up, get behind the team, have a look at the league table, and support the club that we so nearly lost.

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