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Still prefer to wait for Ferrite to answer since he posted………. however, although this really takes us to t’other side of Bru and also probably puts me in to someone’s firing line, I can’t resist responding to the explanation that, apparently, every Trump supporter ‘believes everything or at least follows everything he says ..like a cult.’
So that’s tens of millions of US voters over two elections? That’s my highly educated and pretty discerning ( only my word for it) daughter and son in law . That’s also .. should I have been a U.S. voter .. also me over the last two elections. There were only two choices. Labelling people who have to live out the consequences of their choices in such a dismissive and insulting manner says more about the labellers than it does about Trump supporters.2 users thanked author for this post.
What a strange lot, like Trump supporters.
. An explanation would be appreciated, Ferrite.
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Yep ..there’s always a downside to every glimmer IB… if you look hard enough and really want it.
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All else pales when hearing your view on the ‘jumper.’ I guess you’ve never walked with a person contemplating suicide or battling extreme depression.Believe me ..that person in his last moments..or his Mum ..or wife and kids ..or mates ..won’t be agonising over the undoubted inconvenience caused to football supportersor anyone else. I recognise your frustration ..but just think you’d have been better leaving that detail out or at least rephrasing your sentiments.
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Bob was and is definitely that ..’an observer.’ That ability to reflect and to capture his observations in devastatingly powerful and moving poetical lyrics led to his Nobel prize for Literature. He’s also hard to pin down. He has evolved, mutated, transformed etc etc through many phases and never become ‘bound’ by any of them as far as I can see. Maybe he has more certainties in private ..but in the public sphere there has always been that element of ‘will o the wisp.’
Just to say that IB feels that news of CcJs has led to an increased spotlight on him. That’s how he opens above.Presumably he feels that this is some sort of diversionary tactic to take attention away from the ‘true villain.’
IB. Grow the hell up. Get some sort of perspective ..both on yourself, DH and other posters. Your obsession will inevitably take you into a false reality ..delusion .. and this statement is an indicator. It has been your relentless flow of negative information ..including re CCJs ..that has given you any spotlight on here. If you don’t like discussion surrounding you and your motives ..then don’t post.
CCJs are a stain on our club. There has been some decent discussion above. The explanation re the sheer number, validation process, administration of payment, prioritisation etc may be guff ..as you inevitably suggest ..though several posters have found this plausible and been willing to extend some ‘grace.’ Maybe you haven’t been payed, maybe DH bullied you at school, maybe he ran your cat over .. none of us know what motivates you and you don’t tell us. But please .. if you are to keep up this campaign ..don’t bleat when there is a response!1 user thanked author for this post.
Agree with those points Westyorksiron. I’m more interested in engaging with posts like that in the future that raise sensible points rather than these stupid witch hunts regarding particular posters and attempting to find out posters real names and quietening doubters
We’ve had the ‘burning torches’ and now it’s ‘witch hunts’ by folks who aren’t ‘sensible,’ Deerey. Just recently you professed to be ‘confused’ as to whether I believe in free speech. I know … from you and other posters..that there are some bad ‘uns on Twitter and Facebook. But, at the risk of triggering outrage, you are coming across a bit ‘puritanical’ at present. A good few on here ..NI, IA , Ironfromafar and others..have accepted concerns but find the relentless negativity of a few posters clearly with an agenda tiresome to the pint of nauseating.
Have another look at my reply to Westyorks. Is my first point about DH and dealing with emerging debt invalid?
Is my concluding point about possible scenarios without DH not worthy of consideration?
Let’s not berate others for doing what any of us ..including you .. can slip into.1 user thanked author for this post.
Agreed.Nothing to disagree with there. DH may not provide a ground or even a future …but he’s having a go. IB and others have alerted us to some of the issues he either faces or surround him ..but the toxic, mean spirited nature of the constant flow tells us that this is not really about informing Iron fans.For one or two it is personal ..maybe for a couple more it is the old ‘I oppose any and every Chairman syndrome.’ Maybe in the mix are those who just love to torment and sow division amongst rival fans. I’ll probably be accused of wanting to censor .. which I don’t.. but I do look forward to the time when things have worked through, one way or t’other, and these posts have faded away.
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Well done matt give mr hillton enough rope and he will hang himself very clever indeed , great work.
And there you have it! Anything ..even that meeting with the approval of more than 30 posters … is construed as being a negative.(And ..please ..start getting Hilton’s name right).
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