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64 ..3 possibilities as to why you post in this way. a) You simply love provoking a reaction. The more you can stir the better. Gives life to the site etc b) You’re either a bit lazy or a bit simplistic in your analytical skills. All that nuance and complexity ain’t for you. Just pick a side and pile in. Apart from anything ..who wants all the hard graft of learning the history and weighing the situation ..of being educated. c) Your a dyed in the wool ‘progressive’ ideologue who sees all through a lens of ‘colonisation’ of the noble savage. Boy does it feel good to have a cause ..especially if it costs nowt personally. Maybe one of the three or some mixture of them all.
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I agree that it’s a terrible dilemma. Israel ..as in the past campaigns .. does try to give warning about its targets and does try to identify Hamas infrastructure… but undoubtedly that is extremely limited. A purely ground operation will mean many further Israeli casualties, hence the bombing first. A terrible tragedy.
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Just to go back to KVV … I still occasionally find myself mulling over his winner at Grimsby. And that ‘disgraceful’ celebration. For that alone he’ll surely live long in the memory of Iron fans. Then I just have to have another You Tube peek. ….That’s what I’ll do now.
I really enjoy watching Butterfield. As above .. that classy calmness every time he gets the ball. Awareness and confidence, even with the limitations of age. That first half fizzer along the ground that nearly deceived their keeper was a joy to watch.
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My daughter and grandkids are safe, Bill. So are my sister in law and nephews and nieces. In case you or anyone is interested.
What with all of this and concern for Armenian friends it’s a bit stretching. My advice to anyone is not to hold on to too many grievances and grudges at the personal level. They can morph into the kind of demonic violence which are filling our TV screens at present and ertainly don’t represent the one who said ‘ Love your enemies and bless those who despite fully use you.’
That’s all I can muster. Sidey pretty well says it for me.1 user thanked author for this post.
My son down south now has this. His 6 year old son has yet to visit Glanford Park. Maybe soon!!
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Careful chaps!
You’re at risk of acting like those you are criticising.
I guess it’s what social media is all about?
A fair note of caution there, NI.
To be fair .. I managed to avoid most of the heated stuff. My only real Social media is on here and I live away from the town. I don’t see Simon as much more than a passionate fan who has wanted to believe the best ..probably knows he’s been duped and may have made some errors of judgment. We need passionate fans.
Some of the other cited behaviour sounds criminal to me. However, being a teenager or just being immature shouldn’t mean ‘banning for life.’ That’s where we start to get into the territory NI warns against.
My aim has been not to get drawn into the partisan exchanges … a bit like knowing when to withdraw from a row. Things get said ..even done ..in the heat of the moment which only deepen the problems. Perhaps the most irritated I got was the relentless ‘exposures’ of Interested Bystander. I know that he was seen as a valuable contributor. I recognise that he has been largely vindicated. What irked me was the sense of a personal grievance that was never explained and would not know when to stop. If we carry that same intensity forward in the fan base then the ‘legacy’ we give to Peter Swann and David Hilton will be months ..even years .. of toxic exchanges and a disunited fan base.1 user thanked author for this post.
For me … I think the best way forward is to let recriminations and grievances go. This has been a nightmare of speculation and confusion. In such scenarios people often lose their bearings, get heated and step over the line. Apologies for genuine errors of judgment … fair enough. But talk of ‘binning off’ and ‘banning.’ Won’t be long before someone compiles a list I suppose. I hope it’s not too big … we’re going to need every supporter we can get. How about taking advice from ‘Frozen’ and just let it go.
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