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50 points was the target- we failed.
We have retained our football league status by virtue of 2 other clubs being simultaneously ran into the ground at a slightly faster rate of knots than we are.
I’ve tried to maintain a positive outlook throughout the season, and have, at times, being appreciative of the organisation instilled into the team to be able to hang in there and steal a win. In reality though, that’s all that’s really kept us up: stealing a goal on the counter attack- sometimes our only shot on goal- at the likes of Cambridge and Port Vale. Desperately hanging on in there like we’ve snatched a third round tie away at Old trafford with banks of 5 players camped up within our half in the 50th minute.
I don’t know the overall stats- I know we’ve broken a few records- but every game we almost NEVER force an opposition keeper into a save. I’ve followed the Iron since 98 and for all you could throw at us, you could never say we wouldn’t have a go. Even the shocking 03-04 year we entertained- This lot couldn’t lace their boots. Imagine having to watch that shit this year in person, crowds would’ve dipped below 2,500 regularly.
I’m apathetic to whether Cox stays or goes. As others have pointed out he’s only the symptom. He’s shown massive amounts of tactical Naivety, and whether his man management style is effective, is up for debate. Results speak for themselves and he was not able to put the brakes on as we were sliding into non league. That doesn’t bode well for the fight ahead.
His get out of jail free card this year is that this wasn’t his team; I’m clutching at straws but I hope during this last 12 months he has identified what type of player is required at this level and he and young Swann can build something resembling a battling league 2 side. Taft, Karacan and Howard have shown there is some small shoots of recovery. He won’t have the luxury of time next year though.
The injuries have been damn right ridiculous. Again, I don’t know how we compare to others, but it feels like the last 2/3 years we are buying second hand cars without checking under the bonnet. If we don’t get this addressed it could well be the difference between Bradford or Bromley.
The only positive is we wasn’t there to watch it. Time to draw a line under this shit show and move on.
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Thank god this season is over.
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Would anyone be able to post the minutes on here ?
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Just when you think there is going to be absolutely nothing good come out of a football season, it is confirmed…..
A trip to Wilbutts lane chippie next season is on
Up there with the Chippy outside Crewe’s ground.
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Only caught the last 10 mins. Seemed a surpassingly open game and we showed more intent going forward than we have in the previous 5 games. How the hell did loft fluff that chance?
Job done anyway. Thank god it’s almost over.
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The horrific football and the possibility of dropping into non league- however excruciating- isn’t my main concern at the moment. Football is cyclical and at some point we will be due a stint in tier 5. That I can begrudgingly accept.
Meanwhile, Nothing I have seen about the land transfer fills me with confidence: from reading Swann’s statements, articles in the telegraph, Simon elliot’s tweets, points made on this board and information on the grapevine. There is no precedent (as far as I know) from a a club of similar stature to us benefiting from such a move.
I think an organised protest is abit much at the minute and it’s something I won’t attend, for those that wish to do so then it’s their prerogative; however the Chairmen does need to be continuously scrutinised on this deal by journalists/humberside/iron trust/podcast/ fans forums, whomever that may be.
The more transparency the better.
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Have you actually read the statement? Simple question.
Have you read the statement in 2015? Still waiting for a response on the other thread
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Be interesting to hear uptheiron’s view on that statement.
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I’ve seen no contracts as I suspect none of you have. Yet plenty of you are on here speculating about what it says.
Of course we are speculating, it’s of huge consequence to what happens with the future of the club. I can assure you that the fans of Bury, Macclesfield and Darlington wish they speculated a little further.
We wouldn’t be in this mess with Hurst in charge, that I am certain of.
The codheads should be used as a shining example of what years of mismanagement, egocentric decisions, and a lack of investment in the right areas can do to a football club.
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We’re not capable of defending either
Yep, good call
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Despite Swann’s attempts at reassuring supporters, I find myself becoming gradually more concerned about the issue. Few Rambling thoughts:
1a) At what point can they club afford to pay rent? This is a vague statement; is there contractually a point in which the club is obliged to pay rent.
1b) At this point- how much is the rent?2) What happens when the land inevitably rises in value? The Gallagher retail park has expanded ever since its creation 20 years ago; Couple this with the potential of the Lincolnshire Lakes project and Glanford Park/Land could worth a significant amount more than the £11million debt wiped off- a debt mostly accumulated due to reckless spending by the owner.
3) Will the club see any profits made from the development of land or does this go into the Coolsilk pot?
4) What are the actual plans for the ground? I attended the consultation some years ago now in which the club released a blueprint and a couple of architect impressions of the exterior- since then however, as far as I’m aware, nothing else has been shown. No interior impressions, nothing. What are we actually building?
Good post above, Josh. The suggestion about the club moving to a Brownfield site is something that has always appealed to me. My only other suggestion for location would be the land where Brumby Hall currently sits- I have no ideas if there are covenants protecting the facility etc but it would put the club right back at the heart of the community again.
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Putting the positive cap on momentarily, I’d assume it makes capital lending more accessible and favourable if intend on redeveloping the ground and the surrounding area? Also will the 300k a year we paid in interest now be put towards the playing budget?
Two questions about that: how can the club borrow money if it doesn’t have its main asset as a security? And will the club be charged rent instead of interest?
1) If I remember correctly it was something along the lines of Coolsilk having access to more favourable rates of borrowing money than the club would. The club wouldn’t need to borrow anything. Obviously that then leads to the question of what benefits does the club gain from having its land being developed on.
2) the obvious answer is Yes. What the rent could be is guesswork. That also leads to the question of what happens when Coolsilk eventually sells up…
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Putting the positive cap on momentarily, I’d assume it makes capital lending more accessible and favourable if intend on redeveloping the ground and the surrounding area? Also will the 300k a year we paid in interest now be put towards the playing budget?
However, I share the same sentiment as you Daz; a lower league club with no assets is not often a winning combination and it leaves our future firmly tied to that of Coolsilk.
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Howard has been a huge loss for us.
The 2nd half of the season he has improved his ability to come out and collect crosses too, so that argument is redundant.1 user thanked author for this post.
The issue with the players dropping off in terms of motivation and work rate has conveniently started when allegedly contracts have been offered/withdrawn. We saw it when we were top of league one and no we’ve seen it with these no hopers.
Its only an assumption, but is Cox waiting until we are mathematically safe before making the wholesale changes?
Sacking him at this stage is a pointless endeavour. I’m far from convinced thus far with his tactical ability but at least he has had a year to work with the core squad whom will be here next year and will have some understanding on additions needed. The signings under his stewardship of Karacan and Taft were a vast improvement on the dross bought during the summer and there appears to be a working relationship with Swann JR and the transfer committee- which is an achievement in itself.
The outcome whoever in charge seems inevitable regardless.
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A shameful performance; minimum requirement is effort -which for the majority of the season has been there- however, for whatever reason, that has all but vanished.
It’s inexcusable and there’s no reason the majority of those leaving should play the remaining games.
Enough of the sound bites now Cox: Drop them
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It really is a chore trying to watch us play. Loft mid placing a 4 yard pass sums it up.
Thankfully the codheads and Southend are beyond useless to give us a reprieve this year.
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