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Yeah, but fans pay money so are ‘entitled’ to voice their disgust at poor performances. Never mind that their vitriol creates a toxic atmosphere that feeds to players, creating a feedback loop that leads to more poor performances. What matters are people being able to show how angry they are, as that makes them better fans. How else would the players and Butler know that they have underperformed if they didn’t have fans to run up to them at full time to call them a w*nker?
The abuse is unacceptable- however if supporters choose to voice their displeasure towards another mind numbing performance at home with booing, so be it. Let’s not rewrite history either, for the majority of the game yesterday it was flat as a fart other than the odd groan. I was shocked the attendance was still
Above 3,600 tbh.On a human level, Butler has my sympathy as you never want a manager to fail, but the reality is, he’s been given the biggest budget in the league, the best squad on paper, and 4,000 home fans with a wave of goodwill heading into the new season. The fanbase wasn’t toxic in recent history when we were helping to pay the staffs wages, buying shirts in record numbers and turning up with higher crowds than league 2 clubs. They have responded to the dross that is being served and the Alfreton game looks to have been the turning point.
Not since this Midlands league have we been the biggest side in a Division, with that is going to come expectation. If the staff or players find that unreasonable, there are plenty of part time sides in this league that will give you an easier ride.
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Not a good game today, however he’s not the reason we are playing like we are.
He scored 20 odd goals for Darlo at this level and looked very good against us for Solihull last year- maybe the problem is us…
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Another painfully dull watch. We look like a side without confidence, ideas and no idea what system it’s suppose to be playing. Without the Keeper we could easily be outside the play offs and Andy without a job.
For the budget we have, it’s embarrassing this is the best we can serve up.
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Think you’ve hit the tone perfectly there, Siderite; My version would be you criticise without being a c*nt about it.
The 2 big things Butler appears to have in his favour are the board, and the players seem to be behind him. If a siege mentality is required to start getting a tune out of the squad then so be it.
Interesting to note a few managers seem to have struggled this weekend; Chester manager getting wound up with the Brackley lot and Holloway having his usual meltdown.
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Wasn’t good listening at all and has taken the shine from an important win.
On a human level I feel for Andy, great servant for the club and sounds like he’s had personal issues; he’s feeling the pressure and trying to protect the team which is understandable, but he’s got to learn to handle criticism better. He’s got be far the biggest budget in the league and the odds stacked in his favour, that comes with scrutiny which no other manager has faced in our history.
Despite the win it feels he’s closer to the exit than ever. Is there a way back? Looking unlikely, not impossible. He needs a big performance and result against Hereford as a minimum.
A spectacular collapse since S’boro away though, Still can’t figure out what’s gone so wrong.
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Board interference is a big red line that should not be crossed; we’ve seen how that pans out before and completely undermines any present/future manager.
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I don’t know if he has lost the dressing room, but certainly lost the supporters
Rarely a way back for a manager when this happens, and it certainly happened on Saturday.
I honestly don’t know what the answer is, we have the same conversation every 9 months and always take a step backwards.
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Hate calling for a managers head, but today felt like a breaking point.
It feels inevitable we will tumble down the league by the new year.
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Almost feel shell shocked after watching that.
Despite many hammerings we have received over the years, I agree with the above comments and can’t recall a more turgid game of football I’ve seen down at GP
That was a disgrace.
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Feels like another big game for Butler, needs a strong performance and a result. Alfreton will be engaging in the dark arts from the 1st minute so I feel an early goal is crucial.
Iron 1-1 Alfreton 3497
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I do think Deerey had a point a week or so ago. The back 5 didn’t help, but there are bigger problems afoot. I am not convinced by the balance of the squad and wonder if they actually are good enough.
This.
We were outplayed during large periods of the game last night, not through a dodgy ref or negative tactics, but a better footballing side on a large pitch.
A lot has been pinned on the formation whereas I’ve always thought that it was a red herring, I’ve heard from a few people now that our squad just isn’t good enough and that’s becoming more apparent by the week.
Our ball retention is very poor, unless we go sideways along the back line then it unlikely we keep possession for a noteworthy length of time. Last night our shooting was diabolical, barely registered a shot on target from a few good positions.
Positives are another clean sheet and some incredible goalkeeping- Beck also looks to be an astute signing, we just need to start making better runs off him
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Be interesting to see where and how carlton fits in now Beck is here. Butler will more than likely go with Whitehall and beck up top so only place he can play is the no 10 role occupied by Roberts and there’s no chance he’ll be going anywhere, and neither should he.
Butler from his interview the other day is keeping with this formation.
Carlton’s had a rough start, he’ll
Most likely be on the bench for the next few games, however there will be plenty of opportunity to make an impact.Fish might struggle now unless we get injuries- a short term loan with the option of recall might not do him any harm
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Stood out in the cup game for Solihull against us last year, exactly the type of player we are lacking and strengthens a weak area of the side.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see those around him start finding form now
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In no reality is it feasible to have a head of football and a CEO in the National league north-something had to give.
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Change personnel or fall on your sword, Andy.
Simply not good enough again.
If Whitehall is injured long term we are in big trouble.
Well Carlton showed that he’s no centre forward. He can’t head a ball and couldn’t trap a bag of cement. And when your two CMs can be pushed off the ball by a six year old, then you’re relying on the only two players with any footballing ability to work some sort of magic. Never going to happen tonight.
The Moors fans were right, “top of the league, you’re having a laugh”!
Agreed, Carlton has barely resembled a professional footballer with performances thus far, I hoped his return would mitigate the loss of Whitehall, not to be and a loan striker becomes more important by the game.
Centre mid is so lightweight it’s laughable- especially with 3 oven ready players capable of playing that position not getting a game. Not that our loss of form is entirely down to him but Clunan has been woeful- keeping playing him at your peril in current form.
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Admittedly they have some games in hand but I suspect Trinity fans would swap their cup run for not being 2 points from the bottom of their league.
I can’t see it, they’ll be receiving a healthy cash injection from this run and more importantly creating great memories.
Really hope our club’s mindset towards cup competition, especially the FA cup, changes in years to come
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