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  • in reply to: Panorama #273747
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    … and they’d need two hours!

    in reply to: Uptown Top Panicking #273733
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    I believe you mean Liz Truss, Theresa May’s dad was a clergyman, she’s probably more communion wafer than lettuce.

    You are absolutely right, Liz Truss. Apologies for my mistake.

    in reply to: Buxton FC #273731
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    I’m not saying I don’t believe that the players haven’t been paid in the past, or that there is a chance they won’t be this month (as nothing would surprise me at the moment regarding club finances). But are we sure? Is there proof?

    in reply to: Scunny Fans Facebook Group #273714
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    It’s really simple, imho. Don’t slag anyone off at a personal level. Ask questions or make your point in a way that shows decency. And if you have concerns about the current owner and the current situation, it is 100% legitimate to have them – it goes with the territory of being a supporter. But be as careful as you can be when putting them across.

    I don’t think it’s any more complicated than that. But there are always people looking for a fight, though, or who are unable to accept anyone else’s reality – and actual reality – if it is different to theirs.

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    in reply to: Level Playing Field #273713
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    It’s not yet proven to be from him, though. He has denied it. Hopefully an investigation from that body will get to the truth of it.

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    in reply to: Scunthorpe fans #273705
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    An external review at some point, in the future, of how social media communications played it’s part in this car crash would be beneficial I reckon. Lots of lessons to be learned. Might aswell add it to the novel about a fictional non-league side in turmoil and the Netflix drama.

    Any sort of examination of social media / comms problems would be a minefield. I don’t think it could actually come to any conclusion other than a certain person is bang out of order (if we’re talking about the club itself having had a proper strategy, which has been compromised and devalued time and again).

    in reply to: Scunthorpe fans #273694
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    I really hope future owners stay off social media. It rarely ends well and creates division. Whatever is posted on social media from the owner or Board should be posted on the club’s website so it’s more accessible to all fans – specially those that don’t / won’t entertain Twitter and Facebook

    If Mr Wagstaff or Mr Wharton (for example) had started putting out club info in this manner rather than through official channels I would have been seriously alarmed. It’s highly unprofessional and completely compromises the credibility of the club itself – and it absolutely causes chaos. As I have said above, you have to wonder if that is the intention.

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    in reply to: Scunthorpe fans #273693
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    I really hope future owners stay off social media. It rarely ends well and creates division. Whatever is posted on social media from the owner or Board should be posted on the club’s website so it’s more accessible to all fans – specially those that don’t / won’t entertain Twitter and Facebook

    You have to wonder if this level of social media engagement is from a playbook – all about causing chaos and division.

    in reply to: Scunny Fans Facebook Group #273691
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    I can see where Facebook and twitter has an advantage in that they don’t have thread titles so the awful dogs abuse aimed at us isn’t highlighted as much. This thread is mild by comparison in it’s actual content.

    I have to agree with this. We all have opinions and they can be passionately expressed, and occasionally the wording can be ill thought out. But on here I’ve rarely seen the abusive and aggressive tone there has been on the Facebook page in recent times.

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    in reply to: Uptown Top Panicking #273686
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    Is the signage our ‘Theresa May’s lettuce’? Will it remain in existence longer than the club?!

    in reply to: “I have a dream” #273583
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    I’m no MLK but I reckon the wreckage can be salvaged… etc etc

    This is a really noble idea – a fan-owned, democratically run club with lifetime memberships and subscriptions / shares. I can see this being difficult to establish but working well – as long as there is a constitution that people sign up to and must live by in terms of behaviour.

    in reply to: Keep it civil #273558
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    Call a spade a spade, he’s a council estate boy and expresses himself similar to me were talking football here totally different to everything else, I don’t imagine anyone acts like they do on a Saturday anywhere else, just look at those on Saturday on how they acted I’ll even include myself I committed fraud with many others on the trains some didn’t even pay a penny they just blag it I payed but used the more expensive trains and not the ones I booked. And yes I know it doesn’t include all fans I’m sure your well behaved NLI but You’ve never had a kind word for him and now he’s had not kind words about you just a bit more colourful we’re than yours though.

    None of that is a valid justification. As a professional, and as someone in the public spotlight, you should hold yourself to a higher standard of behaviour and manners.

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    in reply to: Another new low #273519
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    The football club gets dragged lower and lower as time passes

    A narcissistic clown followed by a narcissistic debaser.

    It’s almost unbelievable.

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    in reply to: Scunthorpe fans #273505
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    The Lower League Look claiming they have proof. It will be interesting to see what they have.

    The American financial journalist also saying there is more to come re: Wham.

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    in reply to: Scunthorpe fans #273499
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    I have seen his post comments on Facebook. I thought it was very very strange that he said “this is a lie” and then immediately switched into talking about the bans.

    I think anyone with decency would most likely have said “I am devastated by this, it’s a heinous slur, I would never ever say anything like this, I will track down the people responsible for this terrible mistruth, I will get my solicitors involved” etc etc.

    I certainly wouldn’t expect them to just brisk past it as if it’s the least important part of the screenshot, and move on to justifying banning orders.

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    in reply to: Social media #273371
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    in reply to: If he really has the money set aside #273340
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    Pay Jimmy Dean and the backroom staff their August wages

    Is there proof that they haven’t been paid?

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    Seems to me that the legal battle with Swann is not ‘for the stadium’ (as many seem to think) but to determine whether Hilton’s actions in issuing a lease hold any legality. As he admits himself, judgement either way leads to GP being gone – Swann gets it back.

    So, therefore we will be evicted either when the case is heard early next year, or if and when it collapses before then. We will be playing at (probably) Gainsborough – and it looks like this would have been the case either way the court case went.

    in reply to: Social media #273328
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    Bored of the emotional manipulation now. Everything he says is about how hard done by he is, while trying to explain away concerning aspects. It’s all designed to make people feel bad for him and feel bad that people dare to hold him to account. From day one he has not been professional, and after much gaslighting nonsense he is reaping the division that was inevitable. I have not seen him ever take responsibility or make an apology for anything without finger wagging at others.

    DeereyMe is right in that getting so irritated by this is futile. All I can do is just feel sorrow that him, and the previous idiot have ruined what was a good club.

    This is not how business should be conducted.

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    in reply to: Social media #273321
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    in reply to: Social media #273319
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    in reply to: Social media #273311
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    Two questions:-
    Is the content worthy of release on the OWS so we can all read it?
    Do we know they’re definitely the chairman’s words?

    Fairly safe to assume they are, as they have been posted through David White’s account and not anyone else’s…

    As for whether they’re worthy of being considered an official statement, the lines between ‘official’ and ‘gaslighting shitshow’ are so narrow these days, who knows!?

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    in reply to: Social media #273309
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    Ffs. Not another one

    Three, actually!

    in reply to: Social media #273304
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    In Wham’s latest Facebook statements, this morning:

    “My children’s inheritance lost forever for the benefit of people attacking me”.

    Tugging at the heart-strings… but whether you were being attacked or not is totally irrelevant. It would be gone either way. You would actually have put yourself in a position where you have spent your children’s inheritance, either way. Attacks or no attacks, the position is on no-one else but you.

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    in reply to: Why did he take over SUFC #273180
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    I have seen how much abuse Matt has got on social media , especially on Twitter and that facebook group and it’s been out of order imo. The Iron Bru is a good football forum for me.

    I saw some last night. Absolutely terrible.

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    in reply to: Statement #273157
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    The last two owners thought that was on their CV.

    Well, quite.

    in reply to: Why did he take over SUFC #273151
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    I have asked myself this many times. What exactly did he want?

    in reply to: Statement #273149
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    The stadium and the ongoing issues surrounding the owner will be solved by the Iron Trust and local business people coming together with the assistance of the Council.

    The problem with this is coherence. It needs a figurehead, a driver with clarity and vision who can invest a significant amount of time, motivation, passion and charisma to pull off bringing all these agencies together quickly and with dynamic intent. With respect, I struggle to see anyone capable of that locally.

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    The Board of Directors must think long and hard of what they intend doing, because most of their supporters are used to their club playing in the Football levels and not in the leagues they are now in, so I sadly think that there is only one possible ending for the club.

    Expect low horizon thinking, masquerading as saving the club.