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Rene Artois wrote:

Regards to Beck – let’s see how many he ends the season on.

21 games remaining.

Are we laying bets? My guess is 2.

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I’ve not been impressed by him, but I can’t help feeling that if we actually played to his strengths we might get more out of him.

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lesgeo, cassidystash, Deereyme66

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Simon Elliott to a different mirror

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Awaywego wrote:

Not all disabilities can be seen which is quite obvious in Jerry’s case. Takes most of the piss takes (could be seen as bullying) with good humour and that is a lot by the way, so he gets arsey sometimes no bloody wonder.

He did used to get a lot of piss taken in the olden days when he’d run round the pitch and out of the stadium to collect a John Bramhall pass from the M181 or the car park.

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64 wrote:

I really don’t care for Jerry,he comes across as unfriendly and arrogant in the few times I’ve been in his company.He seems very selective about who he is pleasant to

Yes, he has been quite unpleasant in my (admittedly quite limited) experience of him, too. Stalwart servant and all that, for which he should certainly be applauded… but quite unpleasant. Charmless or harsh might be a better way to put it?

I should clarify. I think he’s completely entitled to be however he wants to be, or naturally is. However, when he’s in ambassador for the club mode (serving on the ticket window or whatever else), then in my opinion he’s obliged to not be unpleasant, harsh, short, clippy etc, in demeanour.

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64 wrote:

I really don’t care for Jerry,he comes across as unfriendly and arrogant in the few times I’ve been in his company.He seems very selective about who he is pleasant to

Yes, he has been quite unpleasant in my (admittedly quite limited) experience of him, too. Stalwart servant and all that, for which he should certainly be applauded… but quite unpleasant. Charmless or harsh might be a better way to put it?

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Heath wrote:

“There’s a bigger global picture yet to arrive fully into focus – pieces of the geopolitical board are being moved about ready, as we speak. I have the nagging feeling that life won’t be the same again after this coming year (or couple of years). Dangerous times”.

Watched a couple of James Bond films over Xmas. I can see where Musk got his inspiration from.

Elon Her Majesty’s Secret Service

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In the end it’s not going to matter whether you’re thick or not, nor who you voted for (whether you’re in the US or the UK). There is definitely something in the air, something coming, that we’ve not known before. There’s a bigger global picture yet to arrive fully into focus – pieces of the geopolitical board are being moved about ready, as we speak. I have the nagging feeling that life won’t be the same again after this coming year (or couple of years). Dangerous times.

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Siderite

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Matt and Maw. Small beans in a hill of beans. Looks to me like the only person who really needs to explain himself is Maximum Bell.

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I’ll clarify: I don’t have an opinion either way until hard facts appear (or not).

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I believe Matt’s Twitter post (X) was, at the least, extremely unwise. But, increasingly, as things unfold in what seem to be very slightly weird or eyebrow-raising ways (the away travel subsidy, the Unity group etc), thoughts begin to nag… I wonder, is this one of those situations where the surface has been scratched a little bit, leaving just enough space for the shit to seep out?

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Northumbiron wrote:

Should have just put a microphone in the changing room post match.

Probably would have learned more from that.

Judging by the performance, perhaps not.

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Bemused that this whole ‘terrible interview’ thing was mentioned on BBC Radio Humberside’s breakfast show this morning during the news. Listeners invited to ring or text in to Kofi Smiles to have their say on Andy Butler’s interview! Has the world gone completely mad?

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Awaywego wrote:

One things for sure 64 you’ll never show me up your just not clever enough, just stick with your stop go sign.

*you’re

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steelworks iron

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Awaywego wrote:

you don’t need a ticket office it can all be done on line nowadays

It can be, like with most things now in the digital domain.

Doesn’t mean it should be.

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cassidystash

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cassidystash wrote:

Regarding P/T – I think Scales signed for 25/26, Beck signed for 25/26 and there might be others. How practical would it be to have a mix of F/T and P/T in the squad?

It may be that the club has projected that it’s able to sustain another year of F/T – and the whole ‘we HAVE to get promoted’ is actually more to do with the manager’s position? Do or die.

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Rene Artois wrote:

Anyone think the Bored (sic) may just let the clock tick down and see where we are at the end of the season?

The board’s aim (as stated by Michelle) is promotion. You don’t get promoted in December. So surely the aim indicates waiting until the very end of the season when promotion has been achieved – or not?

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Deereyme66 wrote:

If that’s not a joke, it ought to be.

Everything you’ve mentioned is a joke: The Facebook page, those comments and the players.

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Iron414

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Awaywego wrote:

To be fair Michelle’s story about Butler’s contract doesn’t really add up, surely if the chairman offers you the managers job you don’t just take it without one especially as it was during close season when he would have looked for something else without that certainty.

Nice story all the same and got her off the hook when everyone one was in dismay, whether true or not.

I’d imagine, as he was already employed and presumably had some sort of employment contract, and presumably as they all trust each other, he was appointed as team manager and they all just carried on working until they got round to sorting a new ‘manager’ one out.

Or, if not that, then perhaps it was all in the hands of solicitors or agents or some other kind of rep, and back and forth over fine details.

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To be fair Michelle’s story about Butler’s contract doesn’t really add up, surely if the chairman offers you the managers job you don’t just take it without one especially as it was during close season when he would have looked for something else without that certainty.

Nice story all the same and got her off the hook when everyone one was in dismay, whether true or not.

I’d imagine, as he was already employed and presumably had some sort of employment contract, and presumably as they all trust each other, he was appointed as team manager and they all just carried on working until they got round to sorting a new ‘manager’ one out.

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Just Iron

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Square Ball Bullimore wrote:

It’s an entertainment business. 5-4 wins will retain or grow the fanbase, 0-0 and 1-0 hoofball will see the crowds tumble.

There’s definitely some truth in this… Kevin Keegan’s Newcastle or George Graham’s Arsenal.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

Any appointment is a gamble NI. None have been a success since Alexander. And, any squad missing pivotal players like a Roberts would struggle.

It requires a talismanic leader, and that’s not Butler.

That’s not to say he couldn’t do ‘quite well’ if all the planets aligned and luck was on his side.

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SODIron wrote:

At the start of the season most teams hadn’t worked out how to play against us. After a few weeks and a few injuries to key players, the opposition have managed to find ways to put the team under pressure and we are seeing in real time, the players switching to type.

23/24 all over again.

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SODIron wrote:

Butler is an inexperienced manager who may be leaning heavily into Schofield, it makes me wonder how much this is down to Schofield.

This could be a far more significant explanation than most realise, for how crap things have been.

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SODIron

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Last season Whitehall looked like he could be a real asset, shithousery and all. This season his attitude and performances seem to have dropped off a cliff and (a couple of goals aside) I haven’t seen him do much of use or ‘play with a smile on his face’ in months. Most recently he’s looked like he’s doing little more than playing his contract out.

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Northumbiron wrote:

Butler losing the support of the fans doesn’t particularly bother me. It’s losing the support of the players that’s a concern.

If that’s true of course.

It looked true on Saturday. There was a moment in the second half when the players were all called over to him (must have been an injury to an Alfreton player and a break in play, can’t quite remember). Butler held forth, offering comments and instructions, not one of them looked like they were listening.

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ironingboard wrote:

On the face of it the bun does seem a bit useless. Handy for mopping up the sauce perhaps.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the idea behind it is to make it instagramable/social media ready.

Looking at it there, I don’t think there’s any idea behind it.

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Heath wrote:

We keep hearing that “we have the players” but the evidence from so many matches and last season suggests the opposite.

One look at the goalscorer stats doesn’t give me any confidence that these players are above the standard of the rest of the league, apart from Roberts none of them are on target for 20 goals and the midfielders will not even get 5.

Not the stats for a promotion winning or above standard team, whatever the tactics.

The two new signings have not significantly improved things, either.

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