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Harrytheiron wrote:

Also gone through two hospitality managers and now outsourced to Henry’s, Smoking Goat, Brad’s and the Little Cake Company – the last two replacing goatboy. Get a grip Iron

To be fair to them, they are trying to.

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It shouldn’t be rushed. Get the process right and the right people, and it could be a huge positive. Rush it or make it a popularity contest, and it’ll go the same way everything else like this goes.

Have to agree with this. It absolutely has to be done properly, with the right people. As much as we trust Michelle and co, this should not be allowed to dissolve into some cosy cuppa and biscuits half-hearted gesture on the Club’s part nor some yes-man nothingness and nonsense from the supporters.

That’s why it should definitely go through the Trust, and why everyone who can join should join. The supporters should unionise, in other words.

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Harrytheiron

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I agree. As I said elsewhere I think he’s probably already played his last game for United.

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Rene Artois

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Harrytheiron wrote:

I don’t think the club has trust in the Trust – otherwise why go for this latest, hastily put together, Chat GPT-generated gimmick.

Certainly looks like there’s not enough respect been shown, here. Surely the Iron Trust should automatically have a seat at the table (regardless of any other fan-engagement drive by the Club)? The Trust is the only serious fan-led organisation, and also a shareholder – and actively working towards acquiring more. The organisation should have a part to play in how United develops and is owned and run in the future.

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Rene Artois, Awaywego

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ironingboard wrote:

I’d rather have a stable club than one that overshoots and folds.

As I’ve said before, on another thread somewhere lost in time, there’s a case here that can be argued: Everyone involved is currently in the denial stage during the process of accepting we’re playing at our proper level (this division and the one above).

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Xxx wrote:

Why

Why not?

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I’d tend to agree with that.

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cassidystash wrote:

A bit of “you started it” then? That takes me back a good few years

There’s definitely that but there’s also a sort of wilful prejudice – it’s convenient to blame Bru and those who sail on her for the ill feels around United. However, Iron Hour get a free pass for Hilton and 100Kgate. It beggars belief, really.

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Rene Artois wrote:

Reactionary – but, better late than never.
Credit to them.

Agreed. Rather than cynicism and slagging it off, it should be viewed as a massive opportunity for the supporters. Whoever does it is going to have to have a very strong stomach for it though, as they’ll get ripped to shreds whatever they do.

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Harrytheiron wrote:

What has Mr Roberts brought to the table since his arrival then?

– Stadium weekender/Tom Zanetti
– FC100000
– Bad vibes (allegedly)

Anything else?

We can add two motorbike nights to the list, as a second one has just been announced.

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They’re looking more subsidy to move onto this green steel proposal that’s how it reads to me.

That’s what it looks like to me, too. A bit of (very strong) bullying going on over increasing subsidies.

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Is it actually going to close in June or is this a tactical gun to the government’s head by Jingye?

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Personally I trust that they have the best interests of the Club at heart, but they are definitely going to make mistakes and misjudgements. This week has left a slightly bitter taste. I suspect there is quite a bit more to all this, and that the official statement and radio interview were designed to shut things down and regain the perception of a united front.

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Apollo11 wrote:

Could be that he has played his last game for us and expectations are being carefully managed.

Maybe a deal done (in principle) already and the ‘new’ club wanting their investment protected?

I can’t see Butler or anyone else at the Club sanctioning this.

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Could be that he has played his last game for us and expectations are being carefully managed.

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Harrytheiron wrote:

Filming yourself watching games – a look at me narcissist so not surprised.

He’d obviously seen other football videos and thought he’d have a go. DIY spirit, ‘citizen journalists’ is the buzz word, and all that. Fair play to him for having a go, I would never take that away from him. He’s put in a lot of miles on the road doing these. They’re just not that interesting when you look at the ones that have been done from the Chester game by other people.

Have to say, I think he’s got caught up in the Iron Hour self promotion and the glamour of being known – but I don’t like the game footage and his take on things during the games being the focus of his videos. Much preferred his earlier ones when game stuff was minimal and he was just the conduit through which we encountered strange and mythical creatures before and after each match. Quite charming in a way.

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How much?

£18.99

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You might be asking in the wrong place, I think he favours the Facebook group.

“The mob”?

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Xxx wrote:

I think he’s brought alot more to the club more to the club more than you and I but perhaps your a director tell me if you know bett6

Right. So what does “alot more to the club more to the club more” mean? Are you Bruce Forsyth?

Seriously, though. What does “a lot more” mean? You’ll have to be specific.

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cassidystash

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SODIron wrote:

With Scunthorpe United clearly feeling the strain financially, it raises the question of whether the club is truly benefiting from keeping a CEO on the payroll. Cutting the CEO position could be a significant step toward lowering the monthly wage costs.

There is, as Michelle has said, definitely a need for someone to take the day-to-day pressure off her back. Does it need to be an expensive and untested CEO?

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Xxx wrote:

You are missing the point keep slagging him off like you all do what are you going to achieve he goes what’s next.May be nothing

It’s you that’s missing the point. You’re being asked to say what you think he’s brought to the club so far, so that people can engage with your side of things in a constructive way.

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cassidystash

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SODIron wrote:

The FC100K debacle exposed the naivety and inexperience of the board

… and Gareth.

And, the immediate aftermath of it all has exposed the naivety of a lot of the supporters.

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Awaywego, SODIron

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Xxx wrote:

Why not you only want me tell what you want and lm not going to do that

No, I’d rather we had a good and civil discussion about it, with you putting your points forward, and your working out, and your reasoning, for me to think about – and vice versa. That’s what I want.

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Awaywego wrote:

After this week with Zanetti, Danny and finally Fc100,000 it’s just five people with no idea.

Say you’re right and there are five people with no idea acting as custodians of our Club… Isn’t that even more reason to contribute some of your own skills, talents, enthusiasm, cash?

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Xxx wrote:

But you stil have ceo and he is not going away hmm

Best not have opinions or discuss them, then?

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Harrytheiron wrote:

I genuinely think it’s five people with no idea about music and what people are going to want to see being ‘taken in’ by promoters. The only way to explain this cringey sucking up to Zanetti.

I think they very much want it to be a success and that they very much don’t want to lose face, and that explains giving Zanetti the benefit of the doubt over Saturday’s shenanigans.

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Xxx wrote:

…drive him out then the next and the next. Nothing changes what an earth do you all want.

A ridiculous thing to say. People just want to see (especially in light of the traumas of the last few years) that he’s a particularly strong appointment, the right fit, that he’s value for money, that his salary isn’t an unnecessary waste during relatively hard times.

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Xxx wrote:

How do you know he hasnt why would he be there

Have you been impressed, so far?

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Xxx wrote:

Why dont you realise these people are not going away

Ok. So people are justifiably asking what he has contributed since his appointment, and whether that is a reasonable indicator of what he is likely to contribute in the future? That’s fair enough, isn’t it?

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Rene Artois, cassidystash

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Xxx wrote:

At least the guy has tried to do something more than any of you.

How do you know?

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