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    scunnypete
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    I hope when all this virus has cleared up and life can be normal or as normal as we let it be, the football authorities get there heads together in a mosh pit and severely bang their heads together. Surely the path that football is taking will be seen as unsustainable at all levels. Now the clubs in the upper levels are acting like any other business, and in survival mode. Players have for to long been rewarded for failing. Its about time every chairman in each league stuck together and said this is how much we are going to offer as a basic wage, appearance and performance bonuses i find acceptable because efforts would be made to give not just taking from a club. Also bring agents back under control

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    Iron-awe
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    Completely agree scunnypete but can we ever go back?, once the English game accepted Murdoch’s ” shiny shilling “, the game changed forever.

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    Never going to change, prize money is too much, too big an incentive for greed.

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    The best thing you can do if you want to bring about these sorts of changes is cancel your TV subscriptions. If the TV companies can’t pump the game full of our money, the game won’t be able to fritter it away.

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    Spot on Ferrite, not wanting to be smug but I have never bought a subscription package ( unless you include the bbc licence fee which is compulsory ), oh alright, I do want to be smug.

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    I briefly dabbled with Setanta years ago but was already planning on cancelling when they went pop. I absolutely love cricket and miss it loads but I don’t agree with paying huge premiums to watch it on Sky, especially when the very act of it being on Sky is really damaging the game I love.

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    Only just stopped laughing after seeing the right-wing elements on the forum agreeing with and thanking the OP.

    Classic!

    #174695

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    whats wrong with the so called right wing agreeing with the op, basic wage a yes from me,appearance money a definitely yes from me, bonuses ok as well, maybe if that was the case clubs wouldnt need such rich owners to rely on swanny and the like.you find some strange things funny NI.

    #174696

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    You struggle to understand his point Awaywego, why am I not surprised.

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    i am not fixed in my views ironawe i am not a sheep, just because i am working class doesnt mean i have to vote labour all my life, please explain his point i have failed to understand.

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    Cricket.
    Me addict! I’ll pay whatever the gentlepersons at Sky demand.
    I can live without football.

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    Iron-awe
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    i am not fixed in my views ironawe i am not a sheep, just because i am working class doesnt mean i have to vote labour all my life, please explain his point i have failed to understand.

    Nobody said you had to vote Labour but the basic point of the opening post is to bring more regulation back into football so agents and big money deals don’t control it for the few, right wingers believe in less regulation and more of a free for all which allows the more rich and powerful to take more of what they want for themselves at the expense of the many. The thanks certain posters gave to the OP is the point NI was making, unless I read him wrong. They are basically thanking for a model they normally howl down in general life but apparently it’s time football took it on board. Capiche?

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    Lol, Sopranos box set again I-A?

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    Trying to make him a point that he can’t refuse. 😅

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    Cricket.
    Me addict! I’ll pay whatever the gentlepersons at Sky demand.
    I can live without football.

    Do you think Sky has been good for cricket? I know the money is handy for central contracts and keeping players away from the T20 circuit but is that outweighed by the fact that participation is falling and we now have a whole generation of players who won’t have seen cricket on terrestial TV?

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    The thanks certain posters gave to the OP is the point NI was making, unless I read him wrong. They are basically thanking for a model they normally howl down in general life

    Pretty much I-A.

    Wage-capping, wealth filtering down to those who need it more. Allowing the people to control the game instead of a handful of individuals.

    Sounds dangerously like socialist ideology to me!

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    cheers ironawe, no i did get his point all along thanks hes just wrong, still thank this op again thats about were i am in football,but football is totally different to normal goings on in society were else do workers (players) get more money than managers probably more than ceo,s of companies, and were investing in a company your more than likely to lose millions than make any money at all.like i have said before i wish i had the millions to take over from swanny i am a scunthorpe fan and would love to, i mean who does swanny really support? has he ever said but i am pretty sure it wasnt scunny, but like i have said also just glad that he is putting his money into the club for what ever reason i dont think that makes him some nasty person with some sort of agenda just some lucky guy whos got more money than me.

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    No you completely missed his point you just have the gonads to admit it. All those days spent up Fox Street end pylons obviously did more damage then was first thought.😅

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    We all refer to supporting a club as our club but in reality it hasn’t been our club for a lot of your and neither has 90 other clubs, the only fans I can think of is Wimbledon that can really say it’s their club. Each club has been taken over by business men or women with their own agenda, whatever that might be because it certainly seems it’s not about making money. Worst Case scenario is they walk away as a secured creditor. There is billions of pounds within the english game yet the vast majority of clus lose money every year. This is not sustainable and has now been proven by this awful virus. By asking players to take a 30% pay cut during this time so a club can survive is an admission of poor financial management. Every business should be sustainable, football clubs are no different. If people want to call it a business then it needs to be treated as one

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    I thought by the thread title it was referring back to the first few months under Alexander

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    well i guess i completely missed his point then in your opinion.

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    The fact you had to ask the question in the first place gave you away with no attempt to justify your first response to NI, you need to try harder.

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