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    bartonscorpion
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    Whilst we all sit at home just passing out lives away, which we really have to, what do the forum members think will happen during the rest of the Summer??

    Is it the opinion of many that this virus will have an end in sight, or do you think that it will continue with lower death numbers, but just go on and on? and can anyone see any sense in playing League One and Two games behind closed doors, and without fans?

    My opinion is that unless a cure can be found, which doesn’t appear very likely, I think that it will continue taking lives on a lesser level, but at a level where we cannot return to normal life, ie attending foorball, Speedway, Cricket games etc!, surely this will result in many clubs and players going bust. As it was before this virus, and when clubs like Scunthorpe were taking money from gate takings, we were reportedly losing £70,000 per week, no club can continue on these levels, and I feel sure that many more clubs like Rochdale, Oldham, Burton and Accrington and many more are struggling week after week, so just think what it is like right now, with nothing coming in!!!

    Premier clubs are wanting the season to end by playing behind closed doors, but is that not them just once again being selfish and trying to protect their TV contract money, if this is the case, it is certainly a lot different for lower league clubs.

    Surely it would benefit these clubs if the season was ended right now, and for clubs to shed their unwanted players to cut club costs, and to start and form their teams for the start of season 2020/21, be it Sep or even December, but grounds should not be allowed to fill with fans whilst this deadly virus is still with us, and what really is the point in lower league teams playing in front of empty grounds, there is also many players that are out of contract in June, and on top of that clubs would need to extend loan players in order to finish this season, absolutely pointless in my opinion, what do you guys think about the remainder of this season, the start of next season, and when do you think it would be ok to have supporters back into grounds, just interested in your views.

    What are season ticket holders plans for next season??, are you hanging back to see what is happening, that is my plan and I think because of this unnutural position regarding this killer virus, closing dates for early bird season ticket prices for discount tickets should be open ended until we know what is happening next season, do any agree with this suggesting.

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    Iron-awe
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    Very detailed BS so thanks for that, personally I am not even contemplating next season let alone when football will begin again. As a season ticket holder I will not be renewing, don’t see the point as what little money it would raise would no way come close to being enough to take the club forward. Football at the top will have to join with all other clubs and try and rescue the way the structure of the football league is run, if not, it’s finished in the way we see it today. Football at the minute is on the back burner and that is where it should stay till other more important things in life can be restarted, jobs, schools, social structure as a whole and football is way down the list. I would scrap the season right now and tell the big clubs to grow up and accept the fact it is just not worth it and let’s wait to get our country back on track as quickly and safely as possible. It was announced at tea time today that 92 care homes have been infected with Covid19, by ten tonight it is now 2000. 13 people have died in just one of these homes as a result of the virus, these figures are not even counted in the daily running total and neither are other deaths outside of hospital. Despite the government announcements about PPE, many hospitals are reporting they are woefully short and some have run out of this essential equipment. We are in a bloody mess over this and some people are even contemplating breaking curfew and doing things ” their way “, bloody hell what a complete mess this is. Football can take a hike, football can bloody wait, we need to rationalise, pull together and do as we are being told to do and football is just not a part of that. Stay safe, stay in, don’t be bloody stupid and ride this thing out or else we are all going to be knackered.

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    Yes Iron-awe, I agree completely in what your thoughts are, some people do not see what an evil killer this virus is, and it will drag on and on as I can see it.

    It will effect the workforce and jobs situation more than anyone can forsee, I think that many thousands of companies and shops etc that have colsed down, will never ever reopen, I can see 3,000,000 at least being unemployed after this.

    I can never recall anything ever like this before, and God help us to find a cure.

    I cannot believe how the Premier teams and players have dragged their feet week after week and will not consider helping out the lower league teams or players. The only thing they have come up with is that the Premier League players will have a collection for the NHS, and hope to raise £4 million pounds, so about 400 squad players are going to have a collection, some of them are on over £1 million per month, so how very big of them?????, they shoulds be put on 50%salary straight away, not leave it week after week before giving up anything. I can see many hundreds of players not being able to gain any sort of contract next season, but it will be the lesser players effected not the £300,000 per week one’s.

    All we can do guys is wait and see what happens, but it sure is a boring period of life for myself and little dog, good job that I have had endless support from my sons and daughter since February, but there are many more people that are a lot worse off than myself, God help them, too many are struggling on right now.

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    Thanks BS and IA for your posts. Football is in a mess and they will have to make a decision soon. It will be months, possibly over a year before mass gatherings will be allowed, so all sports and events will be affected.

    I expect Premier League will want to finish the season and so will the Championship teams who still have a chance of promotion.

    I can’t see next season starting until Jan 2021 at the earliest, by that time many lower league teams may not exist. A complete restructure might be required.

    Pretty depressing stuff.

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    i think the best thing would be to end season now and just call it unlucky.on the virus ive said it a few times before the cure is worse than the disease,it is been over egged bit like the mass hysteria when princess diana died and the out pouring of grief we had, yes it is bloody horrible but bartonscorpion do you really think the lockdown is worth losing 3,000,000 jobs you think will be lost, personally i dont, everybodys going on about care homes now but lets face it if we cared that much we would look after our elderly at home but are lives are to busy so lets blame someone else, my mum died in a care home did i feel guilty course i did she hated the place but like i say thats what we do now in a modern society, i am afraid shit happens 227,000 died in the 2004 tsunami 230,000 died in the 2010 haiti earthquake, but i am trying my best and adhering to the rules as best i can for the sake of everyone.

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    Hi Awaywego, I can see what you are saying about the loss of possibly 3,000,000 jobs, but surely if we just allow people to continue mixing as we did lets say 6 months ago. I feel that by taking that direction, many additional people will die, and possibly more people want to carry on with the present way of keeping your distance and staying at home, I agree that it will be very costly to the tax payers, but if needs be the Government could put 5p in the pound on all the higher tax bands and 2p on the lower one’s until things got a lot better.

    Regarding care homes mate, in many ways they are being used by either relatives of people that are paying the fees, or by people that are being paid for by the Council (or tax payers), the fees are really high, but we certainly need the care homes, the number of people presently staying in them is stated to be 380,000 and an additional 510,000 having home help care, so we are talking about nearly a million people.

    This virus is worse than many people think it is, and will possibly be with us for a really long time, then thoughts will be when can we get people back to work. In my opinion for what it’s worth is that we should keep the present system going until at least another month, with the lifting of restrictions for some types of jobs and some Company businesses allowed to start working maybe next week.

    Football should be shelved for this season, and let clubs try and do what they can do to keep in business, it will be difficult but the only safe way of protecting players, managements and supporters, but Premier League greed could put an end to this suggestion.

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    Awaywego, I wonder if you would continue your laissez faire attitude and approach to dealing with Covid 19 if, heaven forbid, you had a number of relatives lost agonisingly to it alone in dire circumstances, or if you ended up being rushed to hospital fighting for breath to be told there’s no ventilator or oxygen for you? Or, if you have a number of friends /relatives on the nhs frontline who are not being tested or adequate ppe? 3 million jobs? Do me a favour.

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    if needs be the Government could put 5p in the pound on all the higher tax bands and 2p on the lower one’s

    F*** me!

    BartonScorpion making socialist proposals? Hallelujah! He’s seen the light!

    And what’s more I agree with his last paragraph.

    Call the season null & void. Tough luck on Liverpool, Leeds, West Brom et al, but it’s not important in the scheme of things. It will also give the FA, EFL & PFA time to put together a support package for the whole pyramid. It’s far too soon to start talking about resuming behind closed doors and we shouldn’t be testing footballers ahead of NHS staff and other essential workers.

    It would also create legal issues whereupon other businesses in the entertainment and leisure sector could challenge such a decision.

    Bin the season and start agin with the same clubs in the same divisions when conditions change for the better. Hopefully August/September but only if it is safe to do so.

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    never thought of that deery whoops silly me, Having got over a serious illness myself life is not just about existing you want quality of life and i am sorry to say that comes with the need for money to live on. they are now telling us that this will be the worst economic downturn ever even worst than the effects of the two world wars, i personally dont think its a price worth paying, i am retired and have money coming in but just worry for them that dont, and yes it goes without saying my wife doesnt agree with me.

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    What, you mean you HAVE thought of that? Thank god you’re not a politician.

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    i could vote labour again if we all paid more tax and not just the rich NI.

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    yes deery thank god i am not some of my views dont fit in with todays society heh oh.

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    I think that many things need a good look at, firstly the country are really heading for the worst position it has been ever, and with us having more old aged pensioners than ever before, costs surely cannot keep rising, simply because there are too many of us, and with so large a part of the population being of such high ages including myself, what is the answer?/.

    Secondly with our finances being hit by this killeer virus, when do we start to say are we right in the bloody head borrowing even more money plus interest charges, and with the other hand dish out £15 billion world aid to corrupt countries like Nigeria, Algeria and Solmarlia, Argentina, India and many others, even though half of them hate our guts.

    And does it make sense to anyone to let these assylum seakers arrive in our warters and bring them into the UK, home them, clothe them, feed them and pay to keep them, school them, take care of their medical needs and then give them legal aid if they are ordered to leave, and in the end keep 96% of them. The EU have no idea how to stop them entering Europe, but allow them to camp in France until they get on a lorry to England, and in the end what bloody good are they for our country.
    I am not meaning the one’s that make up a big part of our NHS, but 90% of these boat people are 18 to 24 year old males, and I know some will say that they need taking care of, but why not stay in their own countries and sort their mess out.

    We will be heading for a possible 4,000,000 unemployed after ths virus thing, it will still be with us in 2021, so do we need to keep any more of these people ???????????????????, for Christ sake, lets see some sense.

    This may not be good reading for a few do gooders, but I feel that it must be said.

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    The EU have no idea how to stop them entering Europe, but allow them to camp in France until they get on a lorry to England, and in the end what bloody good are they for our country.

    Actually I don’t agree with anything you say.

    I retract my previous comments.

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    Sounds like BS will not be at the airport to welcome the planes full of Romanians we have had to beg to work on our farms. Get out there and join them BS!!

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    I have done my share of work pal, started at 15 years old working 48 hour week at the Steel Works, and retired in 2009 aged 68, working 84 hour weeks in West Papua, three months on and two weeks off. and never claimed hand outs during my 53 years work, now your turn to take the piss as normal Heathy.

    The one’s I am on about are not Romanians, they can come here legally, it’s the Syrians, Afgans and Somalian youths that I refer to, but as usual I cannot make any comment without you lot changing it.

    The thing is, most people agree with my views, but they always are affraid of the FORUM SIX scorn.

    Does it really make sense to you, to borrow 40 billion last year, when we are 1.8 trillion in debt then borrow another 15 billion to give away ha ha!

    End of story.

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    Well I see this thread after a good start has begun it’s usual descent into the bag of bollocks the rest do, how refreshingly different.😅. Right I’m off to pick up the acoustic and knock out a few John Prine songs, that’s three threads I’ve mentioned him on now so I hope you are all well impressed.😎🎸

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    the governments down the years could have saved millions of lives and the nhs millions of pounds by making tobacco illegal but they havnt why? and yet the world has come to a standstill with coronavirus, is the lockdown really working the countrys with the best healthcare in place seem to be the worst hit we have thousands dying you would think that the third world countrys would have millions. right thoughts over back to op bin the season.

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    So BS it appears from your CV that it was OK for you to work and earn in foreign countries but condemn foreigners coming to this country to improve their lot. Very colonial of you.

    I’m sure you will tell me that the jobs you worked on were for the benefit of the country, but the same applies to the fruit and veg pickers, the nurses, health assistants, doctors etc. All this shows the stupidity of Ms Patel’s proposed immigration policy.

    Back to the football, looks like the Premier League will come to a decision by the end of the week. Looks like they will try to complete the season in June so that contracts end by July 1st.

    What will happen when the first player gets the virus following a return to training in May. Presumably getting tests won’t be a problem for our vital footballers.

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    “Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it’s much more serious than that.”

    Bill Shankly

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    When Liverpool weren’t training, Shankly would go to Everton’s training ground. Different times.

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    Why do some on here think this virus will just go on and on?
    Spanish flu in 1918/20 killed an estimated 17-50 MILLION people. As far as I know a cure wasn’t found. Those that could, survived it. Then it ended because people were immune. And on we went.

    That is what is going to have to happen now. All this social distancing, lockdown etc can only slow this virus, NOT eradicate it. Eventually those who can, will survive. Sadly, many others will not.
    The way of the world? God’s plan? You tell me.

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    “Why do some on here think this virus will just go on and on?”

    Has anybody said that?

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    “Why do some on here think this virus will just go on and on?”

    Has anybody said that?

    I thought that part of Alcys post was really funny, considering he was writing it.

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    You mean the go on and on and on and on and on and on bit……..

    Pleased to see him back anyway. I do like him in a weird sort of way, must be the long suppressed hippy part of his character.

    Hope he wasn’t serving a suspension!!

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    I’m crap at computer stuff Heathy as you probably realise by now but if you go on you tube you will find Jake Thackray from the 60’s singing On again on again on, you could cut and paste or whatever and shove it on here, dedicate it to Alcy or BS or me or whoever, it’s a funny song, better then listening to that Hancock nob.

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    I have done my share of work pal, started at 15 years old working 48 hour week at the Steel Works, and retired in 2009 aged 68, working 84 hour weeks in West Papua, three months on and two weeks off. and never claimed hand outs during my 53 years work, now your turn to take the piss as normal Heathy.

    The one’s I am on about are not Romanians, they can come here legally, it’s the Syrians, Afgans and Somalian youths that I refer to, but as usual I cannot make any comment without you lot changing it.

    The thing is, most people agree with my views, but they always are affraid of the FORUM SIX scorn.

    Does it really make sense to you, to borrow 40 billion last year, when we are 1.8 trillion in debt then borrow another 15 billion to give away ha ha!

    End of story.

    Who are the FORUM SIX?
    Asking for a friend.

    It’s our time.

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    Heathy—-What I said was not meaning Nurses or veg pickers coming to this country to work and you know it, it was the one’s in the back of lorries and being picked up either at seas, or already landed on our beaches, they are not nurses or land workers, they are budding pimps, drug runners or London street pick pockets, the same one’s that are fighting in the camps in France, they do not have jobs waiting for them and usually end up like I said.

    And you ask why I object to these people being allowed to stay, when I myself spent thirty five years in their countries, I was working every country I visited, and thr results were either a new Power Station, and new LNG Plant or an Oil Refinery being presented to their country to earn money from, as much as I would love to have been a pimp, my job was to produce a Project that earned their country money, a bit of difference isn’t it mate, but you already know this, but would rather attack me than come up with your own proposals.

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    TwoWrights, The FORUM SIX are Iron-awe, Gurny, Heath, Northumbiron, THE-99% and your good self, they would rather attack me or Bucks on the Non-Football section, but never come up with many suggestions of their own. That is the reason that 95% of the comments on that section are by those six, simply because other members just don’t bother, and have let them take over.

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