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    DesertironDesertiron
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    It’s as good as saying it’s not for sale.

    So, does it trundle on until administration knocks on the front door?

    I really hope not, but it does look like it’s headed that way. The only other viable solution I can see is a deal for a token pound with someone with enough money and ready to support the club and invest in it to get free again and take on all debt except any owed to coolsilk/Swann. Let Swann keep the stadium as that’s all he’s interested in and either lease for a peppercorn rent for a couple of years on the basis that the club will be looking for a new ground or groundshare until the new one is ready. It’s not ideal but in the short term it gets a breakaway from him and in the long term building a new stadium and surrounding area even if its in stages would be like a fresh start but whilst keeping identity

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    #249139
    BucksironBucksiron
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    While I have zero sympathy for Swann we have to be realistic and accept that his business interests will almost certainly have been hit very hard, first, by the pandemic, second, by the cost-of-living crisis and, third, by dramatically rising energy prices. All of these things are highly likely to have hit his wealth considerably and have an impact on his room for maneuverability.

    Obviously, none of this is good news for the club and its future inevitably looks more and more uncertain.

    #249147
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    All of this started long before Covid or the present cost of living crisis as well you know.

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    #249154
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    ‘…fourth, because he built a supposedly high class hotel in a low class town, and fifth, he’s an idiot.’

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    #249158
    BucksironBucksiron
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    I’m not attempting to defend Swann, NI, in fact the complete opposite. The point remains that his personal business interests are highly likely to be having a big impact on the decisions he makes and it seems reasonable to assume he’ll need every penny he can get out of the sale of the club.

    Had this not been the case he might have been more inclined to sell and move on.

    #249160
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    Group One race horses ain’t cheap.

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    #249163
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    I’m not attempting to defend Swann, NI, in fact the complete opposite. The point remains that his personal business interests are highly likely to be having a big impact on the decisions he makes and it seems reasonable to assume he’ll need every penny he can get out of the sale of the club.

    Had this not been the case he might have been more inclined to sell and move on.

    You’re not defending him, but you are giving him excuses on a plate, regardless of how legitimate they may be.

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    #249164
    DesertironDesertiron
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    How much empathy would Swann show to someone who wanted to knock a few million off the asking price because of Covid, cost of living crisis, and rising energy prices? None. Plus the fact we are non-league, and unless by some miracle, we get promoted before the end of next season back to L2 then the parachute payments are gone and the new owner has to find even more money to plug that gap.

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    #249166
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    Group One race horses ain’t cheap.

    He doesn’t have any.

    #249174
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    Sacking Hurst because he had a different viewpoint on how the team should be managed had nowt to do with his business interests.

    #249175
    lesgeolesgeo
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    The one manager whose departure was wholly indefensible.

    #249176
    ironkingironking
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    Daws is a clog head.

    The club is in the shit.

    The London mob have lost interest due to Man Utd and Liverpool becoming available.

    Ernest Pawn is a really nice person just misunderstood.

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    Daws is a clog head.

    The club is in the shit.

    The London mob have lost interest due to Man Utd and Liverpool becoming available.

    Ernest Pawn is a really nice person just misunderstood.

    Clog fighting, known in Lancashire as ‘purring’, was a combative means of settling disputes.

    #249181
    Everytime refereePat O’Cake
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    his business interests will almost certainly have been hit very hard, first, by the pandemic, second, by the cost-of-living crisis and, third, by dramatically rising energy prices.

    As will every single other business in the UK if not the world but good business owners find ways to adapt and evolve. As has already been stated this decline started long, long before Covid and the energy crisis, it started the minute that arsehole walked through the door with his bullshine about how he was going to run the club properly and build a new stadium that we didn’t need and couldn’t afford.

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    #249182
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    The one manager whose departure was wholly indefensible.

    Are you all Closet Grimsby Supporters or something?

    Sacked and rightly so.

    #249183
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    The one manager whose departure was wholly indefensible.

    As usual NDA’s would be the order of the day, so only the EGO could say the full story.

    The EGO I have no time for, he is solely responsible for where we are and the state we are in. But the bits I know and saw indicated things would end quickly.

    The problem we have had is the person in charge would have messed up a subbuteo team.

    #249184
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    “Sacked and rightly so.”

    I don’t think so!! Brought in some good players. Daring to challenge the overlords seemed to be his only ‘fault’.
    ( Apart from boring delivery when interviewed.)

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    #249186
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    “Sacked and rightly so.”

    I don’t think so!! Brought in some good players.

    The Headless Chicken Songo’o and the perma-crock Nthle? Abo Eisa was a gem before he threw his toys out of the pram.

    #249191
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    Swann’s appointment of his son as head of recruitment wasn’t down to Covid, the cost of living or a Blackpool hotel either.

    Another master stroke!

    #249194
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    “Sacked and rightly so.”

    I don’t think so!! Brought in some good players.

    The Headless Chicken Songo’o and the perma-crock Nthle? Abo Eisa was a gem before he threw his toys out of the pram.

    McAtee? Gillead?

    #249199
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Yes McAtee, second season didn’t put the effort in, spoilt little child well rid.

    #249200
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    But maybe if he’d been playing for Hurst? Could have been us with a 6 figure player not the Cods?

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    #249204
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    McAtee had a questionable attitude under Russ Wilcox but showed lots of promise under Hurst, I remember the 2-2 draw at Bradford, he was outstanding. Hurst was just turning things around and we were starting to play some decent football under him when the axe fell, completely stupid and unjustified decision IMO.

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    #249208
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    ‘Stupid and unjustified’. One of many decisions by the great one.

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    We wouldn’t be in the national league if Hurst was in charge that’s for sure

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    #249250
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    We wouldn’t be in the national league if Hurst was in charge that’s for sure

    If we’d not sacked McCall we would still be in League 1, how far back do you want to go?

    #249256
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Now you are now missing the point CMC by digressing, Hurst would have kept us in the football league and the replies to your dismissal of his abilities have pointed to the reason why he should have been retained as a manager. The rot set in when Hurst left and the owner decided not to fund the club anymore to the level that would have kept us as a league club with a decent manager in charge.

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    #249261
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Hurst couldn’t keep Grimsby up when he went back.

    #249262
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    My point was more about the circumstances behind Hurst’s sacking rather than his abilities.

    #249268
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Hurst couldn’t keep Grimsby up when he went back.

    True but he brought them back when the new owners got their feet under the table and presented him with a reasonable budget to work with. They also improved the match day catering and therefore the match day experience which all helped to bring in bigger crowds, a better atmosphere which all helped Hurst and his side to succeed. As I said in another thread, everybody has to pull the same way if a club is to succeed from owners to turnstile operators and IMO that’s is why the cods are doing much better now then previous under Fenty.

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