Unpopular, Radical but Necessary

[cassidystash]

Not what anybody wants but might limit any potential onfield damage.
LOSE:-
Plummer or Butler
Elliott (fee and doesn’t fit JD’s current system)
Smith & Jenkins (unless they’re free)
Chapman (cheaper option)
Barrows
Pugh

If we need to lose 3,4 or 5 as reported and with DSF already out on loan this might cover it. (Individual wages unknown of course.)

[PorthlevenIron2]

I have a feeling Elliott will go.

[Westyorksiron]

Agree, players will have to depart and or agree to pay cuts for the club to survive. Finding other clubs who want and are prepared to match current players salaries won’t be easy as some are on big wages for non league. Therefore losing our better players seems more likely.

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[Awaywego]

Bit of a contradiction there WYI.

[Awaywego]

Shouldn’t really be a problem anymore now Ian Sharp has become a director.

[Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg]

Can’t see any of the fringe players leaving, Who is going to take their contracts off our hands.

We could potentially get a fee for Fitzsimmons, Ogle, Whitehall to start with. Send the loan lads back if we are paying some of their wages and potentially another midfielder.

Wouldn’t be popular but I don’t see how the squad is anywhere near sustainable.

[Awaywego]

Fitz and Whitehall wouldn’t sign new contracts with their old clubs so unless they came for love who could afford the obvious inflated wages they will be on, never mind getting a fee for them. Please bare in mind what league we and they are in now.

[Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg]

Fair point.

My thinking was Whitehall’s goals this year in particular may persuade a team who can afford the wages to take him on.

Wasn’t York in for him recently ?

[qwerty]

Season long loans with 28 day recall will be fine.

Once we have our asset back there’ll be no major panic.

[WonderGoals]

Chapman will probably go and be replaced by a cheaper loan option which makes perfect sense.
Pugh, Sembie Ferris already gone, Carver to Southport on a perm contract and send Jenkins back.

All realistic out goings. Chapman should get interest and a club would probably want Pugh. Carver likes it down at Southport and Jenkins can easily get send back to Leeds.

I really hope we don’t lose Smith but if he keeps going like this I can see him getting plenty of interest from other English clubs. Elliot doesn’t really fit this system but if we get rid of him, we’ll again have to get a cheaper loan replacement in and prey he’s good.

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bartonscorpion

[Sgt Booba]

Pain free trimming is unlikely, of course in an ideal world we’ll only lose non key players but the reality is interest will be in those playing and playing well.

It will be difficult to dispose of players on full time contracts not getting a look in here.

[Pele]

No one wanted Pugh in the summer when he was out of contract and available on a free.

Is he currently injured or just out of favour?

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[bartonscorpion]

Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

Can’t see any of the fringe players leaving, Who is going to take their contracts off our hands.

We could potentially get a fee for Fitzsimmons, Ogle, Whitehall to start with. Send the loan lads back if we are paying some of their wages and potentially another midfielder.

Cliff, you are suggesting that some of our better players are to leave, surely it will be better to offload players that are not good enough to get into the starting eleven like Pugh and Chapman etc, and I am not sure if he is still at the club, but if he is surely Mussa would be no big loss, but surely the players you listed will be needed for this season s fight for promotion, which must be the clubs aim, and also requirement for the National League next season.
Wouldn’t be popular but I don’t see how the squad is anywhere near sustainable.

[bartonscorpion]

Pele wrote:

No one wanted Pugh in the summer when he was out of contract and available on a free.

Is he currently injured or just out of favour?

He is just not and never has been good enough, why he was ebver brought back, no one knows??

[Iron-awe]

Pele wrote:

No one wanted Pugh in the summer when he was out of contract and available on a free.

Is he currently injured or just out of favour?

Well he was sub on Saturday as Jenkins came in for Clunan so I’m guessing he’s fit but out of favour as a squad regular.

[Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg]

Barton, with all due respect
, who is going to want to take Chapman off our hands when he’s probably sat here on a contract he wouldn’t get in the league above ?

We desperately need to trim the squad and that’s going to mean some of the better players leaving as not only will they be on the biggest wages, they will be easier to sell.

Promotion would be nice but it’s not the priority for me. How many winding up orders is it going to take before we realise we must become sustainable.

The tv money distributed between NL and NLN must be minimal, what are we risking our future for?

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SODIron

[lesgeo]

Pugh may well be the lowest waged player in the squad.

[SODIron]

Great post CBRP – after the issues the club have faced this year the priorities *must* be stability, getting the ground back and, working towards becoming sustainable. Hopefully we can keep a majority of the players we have in the squad for the remainder of this season, however if the only way to guarantee the club’s long-term survival is to trim the squad then so be it.

We all have to remember, Scunthorpe United was VERY close to the abyss and are still operating at a loss this season.

As CBRP states – “Promotion would be nice but it’s not the priority for me.”

[qwerty]

People need to stop panicking, if the debt is now 800k that is easily manageable once all the urgent bills have been paid.

Once GP is back under SUFC control it will bring in more revenue through sponsorship etc to help see us through until the end of the season when a more realistic playing budget can be implemented.

[Ferrite]

Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

Can’t see any of the fringe players leaving, Who is going to take their contracts off our hands.

One team’s cast-offs are another team’s first-teamers.

I think we could live without Ogle if a bid comes in for him and we’ve certainly proven this week that we can manage without Elliott based on current form.

The current squad was clearly assembled without a thought for any sort of sustainability, there is no doubt that we need to cut our cloth accordingly and there will have to be some difficult decisions with the squad.

[IronIronIron]

qwerty wrote:

People need to stop panicking, if the debt is now 800k that is easily manageable once all the urgent bills have been paid.

Once GP is back under SUFC control it will bring in more revenue through sponsorship etc to help see us through until the end of the season when a more realistic playing budget can be implemented.

£800K plus whatever GP is going to cost us. £3M+??

That’s a hefty monthly payment right there, so where does the income to cover it come from?

[Awaywego]

Hopefully the share capital that all the directors should have put in should cover it,that’s how it normally works unless there’s a sole owner, then if one drops out and wants their investment back it’s not such a hard blow to a club, if being sustainable means us having to get 3/4 thousand crowds week in week out then it’s not for me, well until we’re a league team at least.

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[Apollo11]

Awaywego wrote:

Hopefully the share capital that all the directors should have put in should cover it,that’s how it normally works unless there’s a sole owner, then if one drops out and wants their investment back it’s not such a hard blow to a club, if being sustainable means us having to get 3/4 thousand crowds week in week out then it’s not for me, well until we’re a league team at least.

We’re in a period where absolutely everyone needs to put their money where their mouth is, and the Directors are being honest about it. There is a serious underlying message of “use it or lose it”.

They mean absolutely everyone needs to put their money where their mouth is. From the casually interested, to those who never go but claim the town needs a football club, to the businesses that ‘might’ sponsor a game or the matchball… and right up to those who haven’t put in but want to operate at Boardroom level and enjoy the glory reflected from that…

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