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October 2, 2023 at 4:20 pm #274316
As you’ve probably seen, there is a unity walk planned for Saturday.
Departing from Al-Murad car park on Berkeley circle, 2pm.
Be fantastic to get as many down as we could. We are aiming for the walk to be a show of unity for supporters and celebration in what could potentially be the last game at GP.
Additionally, we want to highlight to the world just what has actually got on here and keep the conversation going about how these ‘fit and and proper’ owners are continuously ruining community assets.
United we stand
October 2, 2023 at 4:28 pm #274319Isn’t it starting at Honest laser?
October 2, 2023 at 4:35 pm #274325Be good if it ended with an Honest Owner.
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October 2, 2023 at 5:08 pm #274335The actions from Scunny fans since the bannings has made me so proud to be an Iron fan. The fundraiser and this has shown so much good from the fanbase. We aren’t going to die without a fight.
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October 2, 2023 at 5:12 pm #274336The actions from Scunny fans since the bannings has made me so proud to be an Iron fan. The fundraiser and this has shown so much good from the fanbase. We aren’t going to die without a fight.
Be great to see you, and many others there off this forum.
October 2, 2023 at 5:30 pm #274340Isn’t it starting at Honest laser?
Is that like Laserquest?
October 2, 2023 at 5:59 pm #274341As you’ve probably seen, there is a unity walk planned for Saturday.
Departing from Al-Murad car park on Berkeley circle, 2pm.
Be fantastic to get as many down as we could. We are aiming for the walk to be a show of unity for supporters and celebration in what could potentially be the last game at GP.
Additionally, we want to highlight to the world just what has actually got on here and keep the conversation going about how these ‘fit and and proper’ owners are continuously ruining community assets.
United we stand
First of all, what’s been achieved by your fanbase and the wider football community in such as short space of time has been nothing short of superb. Fundraising, unity and creating awareness of not only your issue but the wider issue of the suitability of some owners. In my World, decent, genuine and honest people will always come out on top, eventually.
I don’t want to offend any supporter of any club, but I can’t help but feeling that collectively you’re accepting what options are being presented to you. None of your fans want to see your team play its home games away from Glanford Park, you are only accepting the situation because you’re being told that’s the only viable option by someone that you don’t trust. I would have expected to see Scunthorpe United, its owner, the board of directors and its COO to have come up against a lot of resistance, especially given the seriousness of the situation.
There are some educated and articulate individuals on here and on other platforms (you, Siderite, MKIron, North Lincolnshire Irons, TheJuryEffsOut, Lesgio, Just Iron, Matt Blanchard, Matt Ellis, etc) who really should be asking the question, is a move away from GP in the interests of the club and if it’s not, why are we accepting it and what can we do about it?
Right at this moment in time, the prospect of moving away from GP should be the only discussion point for the Iron Trust and other supporter groups.
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October 2, 2023 at 6:37 pm #274343You’re absolutely right IB. To me it doesnt make sense moving to Gainsborough Trinity anyway.
We won’t make any gate money, nothing from catering, sponsorship or hospitality. To top it all many of our fans will be unable to travel to Gainsborough some of them season ticket holders.
Are we in any discussions with Swann regarding renting GP? If not why not? Apparently Hilton has only even paying Swann 7p for the rent. Unbelievable. Why the sudden decision from the directors to move almost immediately from GP? As usual it feels like us fans are kept in the dark by directors.
We SUFC supporters are amazing and our Club must be saved. The premiership could and should be helping us lower clubs to survive. I say shame on them if they don’t.
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October 2, 2023 at 7:03 pm #274344The club statement said that it was Coolsilks refusal to discuss the ground situation that has lead to us leaving after Saturday because of fear of back rent to pay when the ground issue is eventually settled. That tells me there won’t be a legal defence over the ground from our side and with the owner not funding the club he’s hardly going to court to buy a ground for a club he wants to sell. Sell, what a joke, he is rumoured to have only paid one pound for the club in January and has already said he won’t get any money back ( if any ) he has paid into the club since then. Mind you he said a fortnight back he would continue to fund the club till it was sold, that went well didn’t it? Just give up the club and clear of pal and then maybe some group of investors will come in, take over the club and begin a dialogue with Coolsilk to acquire the ground. UTI.
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October 2, 2023 at 7:22 pm #274346I agree a solution without Glanford Park is really not a solution at all.
It would be a stay of execution which is better than we are facing currently but without debt free use of the stadium I cannot see any prospect of a return to the EFL.
It would be ideal if the stadium was fan owned or at least 51% fan owned to guarantee this kind of situation cannot happen again.
Owning and funding the football club is a much more attractive proposition if the ground is guaranteed available for running costs and a peppercorn rent.
I would happily chuck in a grand or so towards the Iron Trust owning or part owning the ground providing Peter Swann is prepared to sell at a realistic price. There may be the appetite and the means amongst fans to raise the £1.5m that would seem to be about a fair price. Of course if Peter Swann has folks queuing up to pay the reported £3m for some relatively unattractive land with no planning consent and significant demolition costs then I fear the ground is gone forever.
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October 2, 2023 at 7:37 pm #274347I agree a solution without Glanford Park is really not a solution at all.
It would be a stay of execution which is better than we are facing currently but without debt free use of the stadium I cannot see any prospect of a return to the EFL.
It would be ideal if the stadium was fan owned or at least 51% fan owned to guarantee this kind of situation cannot happen again.
Owning and funding the football club is a much more attractive proposition if the ground is guaranteed available for running costs and a peppercorn rent.
I would happily chuck in a grand or so towards the Iron Trust owning or part owning the ground providing Peter Swann is prepared to sell at a realistic price. There may be the appetite and the means amongst fans to raise the £1.5m that would seem to be about a fair price. Of course if Peter Swann has folks queuing up to pay the reported £3m for some relatively unattractive land with no planning consent and significant demolition costs then I fear the ground is gone forever.
Totally agree if it can be done by the trust and that’s one word we need is that many would sign up to raise £1.5 million.
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October 2, 2023 at 7:44 pm #274348I agree with all of the above.
Although Farewell To Glanford Park Unity Walk sounds a bit defeatist to me. There’s got to be a better title.
We can’t leave Glanford Park. I’d appeal for some mercy from Peter Swann if someone can get the club off Hilton.October 2, 2023 at 7:47 pm #274349All hypothetical of course but if the Iron Trust could pass a thousand strong in membership and each member stumps up a grand , could Elliot and Sharp come back in with some more money, maybe some kind of lottery grant included too? It’s a long shot but we need that ground to save the club in its current form.
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October 2, 2023 at 8:09 pm #274351Where does the value of £1.5M come from?
If you are making up a random number, why not go lower?
October 2, 2023 at 8:39 pm #274354Well there we have it £2000 towards the stadium already, and the trust haven’t even asked for anything yet, But please remember the money Will be going to Mr Swann and coolsilk and I know there’s plenty of you who said you wouldn’t entertain that idea god knows why, where people expected the money to go I don’t know, more like so long as it wasn’t oneself giving the money to Swann and someone else was jobs a good un Hilton’s idea as always sound for the fans to pUrchase the ground just went about it to quick and to expensive to be inclusive of all fans what’s it matter if you chuck say £50 and upwards in, every little would help towards the goal of a community owned ground.
October 2, 2023 at 9:39 pm #274359Where does the value of £1.5M come from?
If you are making up a random number, why not go lower?
Yes that valuation is just my opinion of the top end value and certainly not what the opening offer would be if I was negotiating.
There are suggestions on Twitter that Peter Swann is open to a rental agreement with people other than David Hilton. That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s true of course but if it is then it suggests Peter Swann has not got a queue of buyers for the land banging at his door.
The real valuation is fairly hard to work out.
Without planning consent the land only has any real value to SUFC as a going concern which probably puts the value at £1m or less.
On the other side of the coin if the club is saved as a going concern Glanford Park is the only venue where the club can accommodate the 3k plus attendances it needs to thrive. Hence the seller probably thinks he can squeeze more than £1m.
Throw into the mix how likely is the council to grant planning consent resulting in the demolition of the towns football stadium? Coupled with the popularity level nationally of the Tories right now that would leave Rob Waltham with a worrying day next time the local elections come around.
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