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    cassidystashcassidystash
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    Hull City Academy
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    ✍️ We are delighted to announce the signing of striker Tyrell Sellars-Fleming on a two-year contract, with the club holding the option of an extra year!

    Any compo?

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    #269976
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Hull City Academy
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    ✍️ We are delighted to announce the signing of striker Tyrell Sellars-Fleming on a two-year contract, with the club holding the option of an extra year!

    Any compo?

    Only on Last Of The Summer Wine. 🌞🍷

    #269982
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    There should be anyone under 24 who the club have developed.

    #269984
    TheJuryeffsOutTheJuryeffsOut
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    Should help offset the horrendous losses of that pointless academy.

    #270023
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    Official Club Player UPDATE 23 June 2023.

    Says that Tyrell Sellars-Fleming had refused a deal but ‘WE HAVE RETAINED OUR COMPENSATION RIGHTS’

    #270045
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    As I understand it because he had the offer of a contract, even though he didn’t sign it, compensation is due, as it should be.

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    #270060
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    Good morning TwoWrights – yes that is the rule. What concerns me is that Hull City declared it a ‘Free Transfer’ . There was no mention of the compensation that the EFL put in to stop clubs higher up poaching from those lower down.

    #270061
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    So is this another youth team product now with a football league team, even though the academy hasn’t produced any saleable players according to our current leader?

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    TheJuryeffsOutTheJuryeffsOut
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    Yep….

    #270067
    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    So is this another youth team product now with a football league team, even though the academy hasn’t produced any saleable players according to our current leader?

    Considering the funding deficit this year and even more so the year after, closing the academy should have been the first decision.

    I know Hull offered 15k for Foster initially, you’re having to go some to reach the point where it’s not loss making.

    #270077
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    Loss making or loss leader? Or false economy?

    #270094
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    Joey Dawson was going to sign but he felt someone was using him in a power battle so he changed his mind – and it was his choice !

    After that despite someone hinting he would sign he had said he would not.

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    Considering the funding deficit this year and even more so the year after, closing the academy should have been the first decision.

    I don’t know the detailed ins & outs of the finances of that part of the club (and I suspect you don’t either) but the claim made by our current leader that it hasn’t produced anyone saleable in a number of years seems to be incorrect. Also, if you produce a youth team player who can play in the first team you can avoid signing an external player. So that’s another way to offset the running costs.

    I can understand that the owner would be looking to cut costs but when that’s balanced against the sheer number of signings (one of whom has immediately gone out on loan!) it does seem like a very short-term approach.

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    Good morning TwoWrights – yes that is the rule. What concerns me is that Hull City declared it a ‘Free Transfer’ . There was no mention of the compensation that the EFL put in to stop clubs higher up poaching from those lower down.

    Good afternoon, I’ve e seen a few articles stating he was a free agent, perhaps they’re mistaking his situation as I’m sure you’re due compensation. If he’s any good he’ll probably spend some time playing for Shelbourne in Ireland, not a bad experience for a young lad.

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    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    Considering the funding deficit this year and even more so the year after, closing the academy should have been the first decision.

    I don’t know the detailed ins & outs of the finances of that part of the club (and I suspect you don’t either) but the claim made by our current leader that it hasn’t produced anyone saleable in a number of years seems to be incorrect. Also, if you produce a youth team player who can play in the first team you can avoid signing an external player. So that’s another way to offset the running costs.

    I can understand that the owner would be looking to cut costs but when that’s balanced against the sheer number of signings (one of whom has immediately gone out on loan!) it does seem like a very short-term approach.

    Either way, there’s a funding shortfall from the EFL and that is not going to be made up by selling assets as we don’t produce enough: It had to go. The wrong decision was the u-turn.

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    Either way, there’s a funding shortfall from the EFL and that is not going to be made up by selling assets as we don’t produce enough: It had to go. The wrong decision was the u-turn.

    Am I right the shortfall is reported as being £250,000/year? That’s roughly £5,000/week. Which is, what, two players? I’m sure we could spare a couple of midfielders to save the youth set-up.

    #270110
    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    250k this year and 500k next year I believe. The squad is too large, but I’d rather see the money go towards paying off some of the creditors than an unsustainable academy.

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    That sounds fine Ferrite that’ll leave us with a squad of 24 that’s roughly £60,000 a week £3 million a year in player wages alone. Where would all that money come from.

    #270149
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    Didn’t we release him when he wouldn’t sign a new contract.

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    ‘I’d rather see the money go towards paying off some of the creditors’

    Hang on, serious question, what creditors and how many are ‘some’? Do you see the problem here? Not shit stirring, but we have been consistently and persistently told that money is not an issue, that proof of funds have been shown, etc. So what’s the score?

    #270172
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    That sounds fine Ferrite that’ll leave us with a squad of 24 that’s roughly £60,000 a week £3 million a year in player wages alone. Where would all that money come from.

    No idea but that is one of my concerns.

    #270204
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    Didn’t we release him when he wouldn’t sign a new contract.

    No – he was offered a contract and he opted to stay away.

    On 23rd June the club stated in one of their Player Update Statements that we “Have retained our compensation rights”. These rights were brought in by the EFL to stop bigger clubs basically stealing developed talent.

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    #270208
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    Get real ferrite, £3 million on players wages in Nln lol.

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    Sellars-Fleming on the bench for Hull City yesterday.
    Does anyone know what our compensation rights, which we apparently retained, are ?

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    Sellars-Fleming on the bench for Hull City yesterday.
    Does anyone know what our compensation rights, which we apparently retained, are ?

    No. I have asked the question several times and our fraud of an owner has never allowed an answer.

    This makes me very suspicious !

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    Probably been told to pay the compensation in cash, preferably used notes, bit like the season ticket saga.

    #274432
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    He’s on the bench again tonight, although I wouldn’t read too much into that as it’s probably just to give him match day experience.

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