Totally aghast at this overt racism this morning

[64]

Stayed away in Harrogate last night ,had a nice breakfast ,our waiter was called Marko ,a nice guy.
The blue rinse Tory mail reader at the next table,asked where he was from ,he responded Albania, I still can’t believe her next comment,”are you here legally?”after he graciously, I wouldn’t have been so , responded with “yes” she compounded it with “that’s alright then ”
The right wing press have a lot to answer for,decent peole being ridiculed publicly by right wing old bags, like that is the inevitable consequence of jumping on the immigration bandwagon everytime this disgusting government gets into bother.Never seen such awful behaviour in such a sedate environment. It was the ordinary way she said it that shocked me most

[Deereyme66]

Did you say anything to her?

[billpuntonsghost]

…probably,*** *** y** Tory **** *******( In a loving tone,obviously.)

[64]

Deereyme66 wrote:

Did you say anything to her?

No I was a coward
It was a nice quiet place and I wasn’t up for an embarrassing scene ,it was her casualnes sthat shocked the most

[billpuntonsghost]

If you hadn’t been a coward and you were up for an embarrassing scene,what would you have said to her?

[Deereyme66]

billpuntonsghost wrote:

If you hadn’t been a coward and you were up for an embarrassing scene,what would you have said to her?

Are you defending that person? Give your head a wobble.

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Siderite

[Deereyme66]

64 wrote:

Deereyme66 wrote:

Did you say anything to her?

No I was a coward
It was a nice quiet place and I wasn’t up for an embarrassing scene ,it was her casualnes sthat shocked the most

Best of British eh? My daughter works in hospitality and hears that shameful stuff a lot.

[billpuntonsghost]

“Are you defending that person?”
No,what I asked was “ If you hadn’t been a coward and you up for an embarrassing scene,what would you have said to her?”
The question was not answered.
Maybe it was“tongue in cheek” British humour ( with the current state of the invasion of illegal immigrants- especially from Albania)

[billpuntonsghost]

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[Deereyme66]

Cheer up bill

[billpuntonsghost]

..I understand 😉

[Siderite]

billpuntonsghost wrote:

“Are you defending that person?”
No,what I asked was “ If you hadn’t been a coward and you up for an embarrassing scene,what would you have said to her?”
The question was not answered.
Maybe it was“tongue in cheek” British humour ( with the current state of the invasion of illegal immigrants- especially from Albania)

I think this interpretation is too generous.

Regardless of what we think of the migrant and refugee situation we should remember they are human too, so terms like invasion and attacking foreign waiters is not on.

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Deereyme66

[billpuntonsghost]

…” so terms like invasion and attacking foreign waiters is not on”.
I’ll start with the second part ,attacking foreign waiters is not on.You will not accept “ tongue in cheek” British humour by stating “ I think this interpretation is too generous”.Exactly,with your agenda you will not accept this interpretation ( by the way “attacking foreign waiters” is a hysterical statement for this incident)
The first part , in using “ invasion” as a description of the thousands of people trying to enter our country illegally is certainly acceptable.When the Beatles and other groups went to America it was called the “British invasion”. Now there are not a few groups but thousands of people trying to enter the country illegally you want people to stop using the word “ invasion”. You couldn’t make it up!

[Siderite]

“I will not accept tongue in cheek British humour”

Where is the evidence for this being tongue in cheek outside of your own interpretation of an event you were not present for? It may be tongue in cheek, but I am sceptical. You have decided that there can be no other interpretation based on nothing. Your argument would hold stack if I made such comments when we were both present for a joke. It doesn’t when neither of us were, so we cannot say it was a joke with any accuracy.

You can’t be seriously claiming that terms like the “British invasion” for music in the 60s is like this. The former was not said with malice, for one, while this is.

Then you moan about my ‘agenda’. Yours is obvious.

[Northumbiron]

One wonders if the woman’s response would have been different if the waiter had said he was Ukrainian?

[billpuntonsghost]

Where is the evidence for this not being tongue in cheek? But you are sceptical.
I agree we cannot say it was a joke ( tongue in cheek comment) with any accuracy,but the point of the post was to declare it was “overt racism”,when in fact in the not too distant past it would have been taken as British “ tongue in cheek “ humour.The agenda in our neo- Marxist critical theory times is too declare everyone a victim ,then intersectionality from that and so on.
“You can’t be seriously claiming that terms like the “British invasion” for music in the 60s is like this.The former was not said with malice,for one,while this is.”
This is said with malice? By who. When I say “ the invasion of thousands of people illegally” are you saying I say this with malice!!
“ One wonders if the woman’s response would have been different if the waiter had said he was Ukrainian?
Who knows! With the current news the tongue in cheek comment wouldn’t have worked if he declared he was Ukrainian and she may have remained silent.
But hey, she was probably one of those rich Tory voters who asks every waiter if they are here legally,like all the other overt racists that read the Mail.

[Deereyme66]

You don’t half talk out your backside, I know that much.

[Siderite]

You We cannot say it would have been taken as “tongue in the cheek British humour” because we don’t know it was such, and it is not positive to dismiss overt xenophobia as just a joke.

“The agenda in our neo- Marxist critical theory times is too declare everyone a victim ,then intersectionality from that and so on.”

Does this include the Tories and the “are you here legally” comedians whose precious feelings can’t handle being called out for something which might create an issue with others? From this thread I gather from you that it’s ok to make xenophobic comments to foreign waiters, because this is corking humour, and any attempts against this is some insidious agenda. Yet it’s wrong to be mean to Tories. I mean, I am not against being mean to Tories, but it seems hypocritical. For some reason, them complaining about others being nasty is not ‘playing the victim’ or part of some conspiratorial wibble about neo-Marxism.

“When I say “ the invasion of thousands of people illegally” are you saying I say this with malice!!”

lol. Yeah, the people saying that there is an invasion of migrants and these are invaders mean it from the goodness of their own hearts.

[billpuntonsghost]

I can’t tell you how satisfying that last response by you was Deeryme66.

[billpuntonsghost]

Siderite ..” the people saying that there is an invasion of migrants and these are invaders mean it from the goodness of their own hearts”.
What??
I actually said “ the invasion of thousands of people illegally”.
Your words have not been said!!
Where do you get “ the people saying that there is an invasion of migrants and these are invaders” from??

[Siderite]

You didn’t say it, yet you just quoted yourself saying invasion.

[Deereyme66]

Tbf, most of what you type seems arse derived bpg 🤣

[Deereyme66]

Can’t beat a good ole Christian racist. God loves em!

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[Northumbiron]

Probably just as well Bartonscorpion and Alcazar don’t use this board anymore!

[billpuntonsghost]

Ad-hom attacks so satisfying.

[Deereyme66]

Oh, boo hoo! Christian martyr now is it, lol?

[Iron-awe]

billpuntonsghost wrote:

I can’t tell you how satisfying that last response by you was Deeryme66.

I hope you restrained yourself and kept your hands away from your fly zip whilst reading it.

[64]

The people in government and in the media are certainly using “invasion” as a way to spread concern Cruella de Braverman and not so Priti before her are rabid Tories playing to their audience,like this woman.Somebody who’s being portrayed in the media as a thief and gangster in every news bulletin doesn’t need this crap from anyone

[billpuntonsghost]

So the word “invasion” shouldn’t be used because it spreads concern.
Just to be “politically correct” could you educate me on the correct words to use instead of “ this year ( and over the last few years)there has been an invasion of people illegally entering the country with record numbers being recorded”. I will use the correct words so it doesn’t spread concern because of these record numbers.

[Siderite]

Or because it dehumanises people? Surely we can use more suitable language?

It’s funny how you love to lecture others on how morality is meaningless without Christianity, yet here is a moral position of mine which differs from what is your Christian position of dehumanising people and making out they’re some invading horde. Obviously, because it’s illegal, their humanity could be discarded by the Christian moral system of yours.

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