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October 4, 2023 at 3:30 pm #274557
I also applaud Jimmy. He seems to appreciate how precious (if unstable) a job in professional football is. Far too many in his position regard it as ‘having made it’ so no further effort required. I still think a few shifts at the steelworks (or similar depending on location) would show those lucky enough to be paid, for what many of us did for nothing, how fortunate they are and how they should work to protect what they have.
October 4, 2023 at 3:31 pm #274558I’m sure decency will prevail
Looks like it has!
October 4, 2023 at 3:34 pm #274559I also applaud Jimmy. He seems to appreciate how precious (if unstable) a job in professional football is. Far too many in his position regard it as ‘having made it’ so no further effort required. I still think a few shifts at the steelworks (or similar depending on location) would show those lucky enough to be paid, for what many of us did for nothing, how fortunate they are and how they should work to protect what they have.
I’m hoping the club plugs back into the community. I seem to remember things like steelworks visits.
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October 4, 2023 at 4:23 pm #274587So it’s suddenly okay for someone who served both Swann and Hilton to take over the club is it?
October 4, 2023 at 4:29 pm #274590I don’t recall Harness berating fans for their stance on Hilton or Swann or anything like that.
October 4, 2023 at 4:33 pm #274592So it’s suddenly okay for someone who served both Swann and Hilton to take over the club is it?
Blimey, she’s only owned the club a few hours. Give her a chance
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October 4, 2023 at 4:34 pm #274593I also applaud Jimmy. He seems to appreciate how precious (if unstable) a job in professional football is. Far too many in his position regard it as ‘having made it’ so no further effort required. I still think a few shifts at the steelworks (or similar depending on location) would show those lucky enough to be paid, for what many of us did for nothing, how fortunate they are and how they should work to protect what they have.
As they use to have to do during the close season.
October 4, 2023 at 4:34 pm #274594Laurie McMenamy used to take cod players round the factories to show them what life could be like without football.
October 4, 2023 at 4:37 pm #274597I was being sarcastic Ironfan. I’m delighted with the news.
The gist of this thread has been don’t let anyone who supported Hilton to get involved with the takeover.
Do I hear the sound of tunes being changed!
October 4, 2023 at 4:42 pm #274598Well, I am pleased NI’s desire for unity didn’t last long. Sounds like you want division.
As I said, I don’t recall Harness berating fans like others did who positioned themselves with Hilton. That was my issue, not solely working for the club. It’s why I and others didn’t critique her, Roj or the other directors either. Credit to Simon for putting this deal together, it would be nice for an apology, but the important thing is to learn from errors and not berate fans again like that.
If we want unity, we need movement from all sides. Including those who weren’t Hilton sceptics. Which means not more nonsense about what others have said from you or others.
October 4, 2023 at 4:46 pm #274600The gist of this thread has been don’t let anyone who supported Hilton to get involved with the takeover.
Do I hear the sound of tunes being changed!
Not at all. No changed tune. No hypocrisy.
You’re conflating support of the club itself with support of Hilton.
Michelle supported SUFC, in her customary quiet and professional manner behind the scenes, as she has done through the tenures of several Chairmen.
The others mentioned in this thread were public and highly vocal in their support of Hilton – and that makes it an entirely different thing.
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October 4, 2023 at 5:01 pm #274605With all due respect NI,the thread is more to do with the content of some of Simon’s tweets berating supporters who questioned and raised concerns about Hilton over a period of time than merely his support of Hilton. Anyway, onwards and upwards eh chaps?
October 4, 2023 at 5:32 pm #274619The gist of this thread has been don’t let anyone who supported Hilton to get involved with the takeover.
That’s not true is it? It’s clearly explained what I consider to be right and supporting Hilton wasn’t a reason to bar anyone that was proposed here .To claim it was is wrong. I am clear that the dog whistling nature which led to abuse a whole new level of abuse in my time watching the Iron and violence is my issue
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October 4, 2023 at 6:20 pm #274629I am getting the distinct impression that Elliott will just try and brush past any accountability for his contribution to the shitstorm, and ride it out on the goodwill towards Michelle’s takeover.
October 4, 2023 at 6:30 pm #274634” Credit to Simon for putting this deal together,” he didn’t Michelle did
October 4, 2023 at 6:34 pm #274635” Credit to Simon for putting this deal together,” he didn’t Michelle did
He must have put a shitload of cash in.
October 4, 2023 at 6:35 pm #274636” Credit to Simon for putting this deal together,” he didn’t Michelle did
Sorry. Poor wording. It should be for helping. Full credit to Michelle.
October 4, 2023 at 6:39 pm #274638Hmm
October 4, 2023 at 6:42 pm #274639I believe the statement from Michelle covers more of the truth than the majority of the posters on here, Hilton taken no fee and wiped out personal monies invested & Elliott massively assisted. Maybe all was not as black and white!! As many here believe.
October 4, 2023 at 6:50 pm #274641Pretty sure no one on here thinks any of it was black and white. Though I do think binary thinking about Hilton’s reign hasn’t helped for the past 6 months.
October 4, 2023 at 6:50 pm #274642Hilton took no fees might be true, but why would he take any? He broke the club ffs
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October 4, 2023 at 6:59 pm #274644I think Swann did a fair amount of club breaking and he wants £3m to dissappear.
October 4, 2023 at 7:11 pm #274649Does he? Michelle said they’re working on a deal with Swann. We don’t know what he wants now Hilton’s gone.
October 4, 2023 at 7:13 pm #274651Hilton took no fees might be true, but why would he take any? He broke the club ffs
many question if any personal money was invested, this statement doesn’t define amounts but unless we are being mislead again money was put in and SE has also helped massively. He broke the club FFS! No mention of the previous years of awful ownership. This mess didn’t happen over 9 months but many years
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October 4, 2023 at 7:14 pm #274653I believe the statement from Michelle covers more of the truth than the majority of the posters on here, Hilton taken no fee and wiped out personal monies invested & Elliott massively assisted. Maybe all was not as black and white!! As many here believe.
I’d expect that arriving at that club statement to have had a high level of interpersonal politics involved. These things are almost always worded to be palatable and in favour of all parties. They’re usually designed to set-up a narrative all have agreed upon, and don’t necessarily reflect the truth.
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October 4, 2023 at 7:16 pm #274655Hmm
Another owner for you to suck up to
Hopefully the days of giving out freebies like sweets are over
October 4, 2023 at 7:18 pm #274658I believe the statement from Michelle covers more of the truth than the majority of the posters on here, Hilton taken no fee and wiped out personal monies invested & Elliott massively assisted. Maybe all was not as black and white!! As many here believe.
I’ve seen too many statements released into the public domain which don’t reflect reality but serve a purpose.
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October 4, 2023 at 7:19 pm #274659I don’t think a word of politeness in a shortish statement is some great saving grace for Hilton. Swann didn’t destroy our club, Hilton stepped in and could have saved it. He didn’t and nearly destroyed us.
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October 4, 2023 at 7:23 pm #274660And Swann is vital to the club getting GP back so we’d do well to remember that.
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October 4, 2023 at 7:25 pm #274661Some saving grace! The guy was hopeless misled and lied to us. Not my point, So now nobody believes the parts of the statement that don’t follow their narrative.
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