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  • #215127
    BottesfordIrons5North Lincolnshire Irons
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    The difference of how the Club was run under Steve Wharton and his father before him is now so obvious to see. Most football league clubs are run with debt. Under Steve Wharton the debt was usually around the 4million mark which was manageable and Wharton knew he had to make cuts with this amount of debt. whereas Swann has run up debts to around the 11million mark which is not manageable for a club of our size, but Swann continued to spend, spend, spend. This was done knowingly that the stadium and assets could be claimed so he could not lose. This is my opinion. Steve Wharton is a very shrewd businessman. Plans were looked at to put another tier on the Doncaster Road end stand but even with a grant this was not affordable. Swanns stadium plans were never affordable but he blames everyone else for his lack of judgement, the council, the fans, but never himself. Steve Wharton would never have allowed this debt to happen and he and his father before him would NEVER HAVE TAKEN OWNERSHIP OF OUR STADIUM AND ASSETS.

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    #215130
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    One a local boy with business acumen and a genuine love for the Iron. A true gentleman who shunned the limelight and made it all about anybody but himself.

    He looked after the club and gave it some of its best times whilst taking the supporters and indeed the community with the team and club.

    Careful and prudent which annoyed some he was loyal to all of his people and they offered loyalty back.

    On the other hand…………..!

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    #215131
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    If it were a boxing match it would be classed as a mismatch.

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    #215139
    BobbyGmeisterBobbyGmeister
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    Be careful what you wish for!

    #215147
    inspectorinspector
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    One was a gentleman whom I knew quite well.

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    One should not tickle the tail of the spite fairy

    #215196
    IRONINTHEBLOODIRONINTHEBLOOD
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    Both chairman the same .!

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    BottesfordIrons5North Lincolnshire Irons
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    Yes Inspector I agree Steve Wharton is a gentleman. His heart was also in Scunthorpe United as was his father before him. He would never have allowed the massive debt to happen and definitely would never have taken the ground and assets away from our Club. He attended every home match and always stayed in the directors box after the match applauding all our players down the tunnel, win lose or draw. He also travelled to all away matches and gained so much pleasure from the football. I knew him very well indeed and can say he is a very honest person, totally different to the position our Scunthorpe United is in now.

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    #215205
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    Steve is, and always was, a gentleman.
    I knew Rex much better (having married his wife’s bridesmaid and played the organ at their wedding) and his legal expertise and enthusiasm were always appreciated. Times have changed, Steve and Rex have left and look where we are now. It all starts from the top.

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    #215206
    BobbyGmeisterBobbyGmeister
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    Steve and Rex have left

    You do know Rex died?

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    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    So it is all the Wharton’s fault for leaving us and selling to Swanny,maybe not such great lovers of the club after all, surely an astute business man would have seen through Swanny?

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    Which ever way you look at it you cannot blame Wharton for this mess.

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    Yes, I do know that Rex died. We attended his funeral.

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    #215249
    BottesfordIrons5North Lincolnshire Irons
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    The man who should take all the blame for this is Swann, but when does he accept any blame. Just excuses – it’s covid, it’s the fans, it’s the council. Steve Wharton is not to blame, he left due to ill-health. How many fans did Swann hood-wink when he first took over as Chairman. Came in with big talk about a new stadium, championship football and running the club better than it had been previously. Even had the cheek to say it had only previously been run as a hobby. Football is a hobby to supporters. Bring back those days, as we soon won’t have a club to support at all under Swann.

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    #215250
    BottesfordIrons5North Lincolnshire Irons
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    The fault lies purely with Swann and not Steve Wharton who left due to ill-health. Swann came in with big talk about building a new stadium, championship football and the club being run much better than it was before. How many fans did he hood-wink with these lies and promises. He even had the nerve to belittle the previous ownership by saying it had been run as a hobby. Well at least it wasn’t run as a money-grabbing business. Football is a passionate hobby to supporters. Wharton was a football fan as well as the Chairman. It would be good to have the hobby days back as we soon won’t have a club to support.Swann says we won’t go out of the football league. If he does nothing to change our current plight he is either phsycic or an imbecile.

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    #215252
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    And Mike Ashley just sold his club to a bunch of murderers.

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    And Mike Ashley just sold his club to a bunch of murderers.

    I’m not sure what the relevance of your comment is Awaywego but if your suggesting we as fans are somehow better off then Newcastle fans I don’t think many on here will agree. Fans don’t get a say who runs their club and that is the problem in football full stop but can you see if changing?

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    #215265
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    My dislike of NUFC is well documented. And I think the FA has dropped a major bollock by sanctioning the takeover.

    But it has created a buzz around the region and a feel good factor despite there being no guarantee of success.

    Replica shirt sale are suddenly through the roof. Ironically via Ashley’s Sports Direct!

    Oh for a similar feeling about Scunthorpe United.

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    #215266
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    Fans at some clubs get a huge say IA. Sadly not ours and too many others.

    Always knew your average Toon fan was a champion of human rights NI!

    #215271
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Let’s keep the Newcastle takeover in perspective, consecutive British Government’s over many years have moaned about the Saudi human right record being appalling but have done billions of pounds of trade deals with them to the betterment of this country. Hypocritical? Yes, are they really bothered? No. I don’t see why Newcastle fans should suddenly become the moral compass of the nation when British Government’s over the years could not really give a toss. All Geordie fans want to see is a successful football team on the pitch and once the Saudi money has also helped redevelop parts of the surrounding area to make it better and hopefully more prosperous then I’m sure memories of atrocities committed over the years will hardly be mentioned. Let’s face it the human race has a lot of compassion when it suits them and couldn’t give a toss when it suits them too. The Premiership is built on greed, why should we be surprised or really care about this latest episode. Good luck Newcastle, give Man U and the rest hell in years to come.

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    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Maybe we could be took over by the Taliban much the same as the Saudis,they both treat their women shite, never really liked women at football and as for hangings, beheadings and crucifixions, that will do for me, and to think some objected to signing the liKes of rapists and a car killer, sorry can’t remember his name. Though I would hope they wouldn’t make all the fans grow beards.

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    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    We weren’t in the best spot at the end under Wharton but at least the link was there between the fans and we had local ties in the boardroom. The structure was already in place, all Swann had to do was come here with a sound business model and pump sensible money into the club to help us along with a long term plan in mind.

    What did he do ?. Swann came here, proceeded to plant his Swann Dynasty flag pole in the boardroom and kicked everybody out while tearing the structure down Wharton had spent so much time putting in place.

    All Swann did was come here and treat the club in a reckless and dangerous way…he tried to run it as a championship club on a league two budget and tried to wing a promotion, ever since he realised he wouldn’t work that way he’s slowly asset stripped the club of all capable players and since took the ground and the land from the community.

    Not going to help us now but Swann in my opinion should be blacklisted from ever getting involved with any sports team, football or otherwise.

    I’m just really disappointed that Wharton was duped like the rest of us were.

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    Wharton wasn`t duped.When he retired he explained that he had spent the last 3 years trying to find a SUITABLE buyer for the club without success.
    His health status then meant that he had to sell to whoever was available at the time.

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    #215303
    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    Cause he was duped. Look at the promises that’s been promised from Swann and what’s been delivered.

    Do you really think Swann would have been upfront to Wharton and told him that he would spend money we couldn’t afford to spend, get the club in huge debt to try and wing a promotion ?

    No of cause he wouldn’t have…therefore in a sense we’ve all been duped. What was promised and what was delivered have been very different.

    Spending 110% of turnover while trying to run the club on a championship type budget with a smallish league 2 budget while running up 12 million in debt is hardly a sound business model.

    Nobody was promised that, were they ?

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    BobbyGmeisterBobbyGmeister
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    Steve Wharton = Scunthorpe man, Scunthorpe fan.

    Peter Swann = Leicester man (I think), Leicester fan.

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    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Steve Wharton=Scunthorpe man, Scunthorpe fan, Scunthorpe United peadophile employer.

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Didn’t realise you worked at the Iron under Whartons tenure Awaywego.

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    I didn’t but Geoff Broome did, and after getting rid Wharton reinstated him, even knowing what he had really done unlike the parents who wanted him reinstating. Give me Swanny anyday.

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    …and how did you know Broome then Awaywego was you a mate of his long before you twigged all this?

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    youre a nasty piece of work mr snore. Noel will deal with you for your behaviour

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