The shady world of the Tories

[Deereyme66]

Disturbing levels of lobbying and shady deals shaping the country’s ruin at Tufton Street – the Tories dirty secret:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63039558

[Bucksiron]

Yawn.

[Deereyme66]

Are you tired? Fear not, many are just finding out what goes on at 55 Tufton Street and will soon realise it’s an absolute racket. The rich few steering and shaping government policy. Total stitch up.

[64]

New Labour ad Panorama pretty sketchy too,imagine if Panorama had made up lies about anyone other than lefties it would be all over the news.

[Siderite]

“Made up lies” lol. Still in denial.

[64]

[64]

The docu maker got a BAFTA nomination for it too.The “lefty”y Bbc should be ashamed for what they put these people through ,so should the “moderates”.Its shocking, Pravda would be embarrassed

[Siderite]

Ah yes, a documentary on a channel with Holocaust denial, which includes a Holocaust denier and someone who has tried to connect Israel to paedophiles. That’s definitely going to woo me.

[Siderite]

64 wrote:

The docu maker got a after nomination for it too.The “lefty”y Bc should be ashamed for what they put these people through ,so should the “moderates”.Its shocking, Pravda would be embarrassed

Such a shame these poor souls were called out for their anti-Semitism, harassment of others. Poor victims.

[64]

It shows the constant stream worked ,

[Siderite]

Keep believing in that documentary, whose star witness was disbarred from being a lawyer for dishonesty.

Meanwhile, the EHRC, BBC and everyone else under the Sun have to be lying.

[Deereyme66]

I thought I’d posted about Tufton Street not whataboutery.

[Deereyme66]

Like I said…

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/05/rightwing-thinktanks-government-bbc-news-programmes?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

[Siderite]

There should be questions asked about who funds these groups and how much influence they operate. It doesn’t matter what flavour the government is, transparency is key. Those saying it’s just sniping from the left are appearing tribal and unwilling to accept critique.

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Deereyme66

[Deereyme66]

There’s a 30min radio programme covering it if anyone is interested …

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001c65m?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

[Bucksiron]

George Monbiot, heavens, what a source. Presumably you agree with his view that meat and dairy farming should be abolished? To say his views are left of Lenin would be understatement.

https://www.newscientist.com/video/2321223-george-monbiot-farming-is-the-most-destructive-human-activity-ever/

[Siderite]

I wouldn’t go that far, but he’s pretty left.

I will note that comment if you ever complain that leftists dismiss a source because they’re right wing, as has been done previously.

[Bucksiron]

I haven’t dismissed it at all, Siderite. All that I’ve done is point out the guy’s political position; and as for “not going that far”, he is absolutely serious about banning meat and dairy farming. His views are incredibly extreme and left-wing.

[Siderite]

I never said he wasn’t very left…

*Emphasis on the pretty, in a British way.

[64]

As being left is generally associated with caring and and a generally fairer society,I do find it an odd attempt to use it as disparaging

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Heath

[Siderite]

“As being left is generally associated with caring”

The Kulaks may disagree. :-)

[Deereyme66]

Not trying to deflect attention away from Tufton Street are you Bucks? Regarding Monbiot, I don’t agree or subscribe to all his views at all but there’s nothing he’s saying about Tufton Street and it’s influence over Tory policies that’s not true. Anyhow, forget him, there are plenty of other sources that say similar things including the Beeb, but I suppose you’ll dismiss them aswell, just as you would any source who says something against your ideology?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001c65m?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

[Bucksiron]

Why would I want to deflect attention away from it, Deerey? ‘Think tanks’ have always played an important role in politics, left and right. All you’ve done is buy-in to the narrative being spouted by the left wing media, which is entirely what I’d expect.

Obviously they’re going to influence the Tory party, just as left-wing think tanks influence Labour. Trying to turn this into some sort of “shady Tories” story is a classic example of left-wing spin. I mean, how dreadful that ‘climate sceptics’ are trying to influence Government thinking. Whatever next.

[Siderite]

There’s nothing wrong with think tanks as such, the problem comes from transparency, which these things often lack. There is nothing wrong with calling for openness for a functioning democracy. This is what a lot of the criticism has focussed on, and is being dismissed here.

[Northumbiron]

Wanting to ban meat and dairy farming isn’t being left-wing!

It’s being vegan.

I doubt if any of the Labour Councillors on Tyneside would give up their Sunday roast and rice pudding!

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Heath

[Iron-awe]

Sunday roast and rice pudding, crikey has the Yorkshire pudding been hunted to extinction in Tyneside. 🤔

[Bucksiron]

Secrecy? Are you seriously claiming you knew nothing about this before the supposedly world-shattering “exposure”. Heavens, they’re in the media enough.

As for banning meat and dairy, NI, I’d say it’s typically left-wing.

[Siderite]

Yet again Bucks resorts to tedious provoking to a post containing no insults aimed at him. Yet he’s always the victim.

[64]

Think tanks are nothing more thn lobby groups funded by those who’s opinions they espouse.They think what they’re paid to think and pass it off as considered opinion.

[Bucksiron]

Victim, Siderite, eh?

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