The Lineup I’d Like To See. (Or something pretty close.)

[lesgeo]

Watson

Vincent Cordner Onariase O’Malley or Bedeau

Gilliead Taylor Spence Eisa

McAtee

Loft

The lineup breaks one of my cardinal rules by possibly playing 2 people at FB who aren’t FBs.
Get the ball forward into opposition box regularly; big men up for set pieces; Eisa left on halfway line when defending.
Why would a positive mindset not see us take three points?

[cassidystash]

FB is a certainly a problem les, Charlie Wilson has Spence at RB in his ST article. So how about:-
Watson
Onariase Cordner Bedeau
Gillead Beestin Spence Eisa
McAtee Loft Taylor

Gillead & Eisa as wingers not WBs BTW so everybody ‘in position’ and Loft gets support.

[lesgeo]

3 – 4 – 3 might be a bit of a worry. It would surely condemn the wide men into having to act as WBs.
Bit harsh on Vincent which is a good reason to try him at FB. He is a bit of a terrier.
Arguably, the kind of formations which are not close to 4 – 4 – 2 make some sort of case for the manager to continue with Hippolyte.

What I want and what I get may be some distance apart, Cass.

[BigLeftToe]

Playing a left footed central midfielder at right back is about as square peg round hole as it gets. Isn’t Rowe fit now?

[Heath]

Watson
Spence Onariase Cordner Bedeau
Gillead Beestin Vincent Eisa
McAtee Taylor

[Northumbiron]

When Vincent joined we were told he could also play LEFT-back.

Also I take it Butroid is injured, otherwise it’s a bit harsh to bin him after just one poor game.

Unless we bring a loan in this week I can see RB being a problem all season.

Gilliead and Eisa as out and out wingers please with Taylor and Spence central.

Wouldn’t be opposed to seeing Mooney alongside Loft. He looked sharp in pre-season.

[lesgeo]

Beestin has something about him which I like.
Can’t see any hope that Mooney can be all that close to match fitness.

[DarrynStampGoalMachine]

Agreed I like Beestin but I can’t fit him in at the minute.

Watson

Rowe
Cordner
Onarise
O’Malley

Gillead
Spence
Taylor
Eisa

McAtee
Loft

Is comfortably the best we can do at the minute in my opinion.

[BigLeftToe]

Agree with Mr. Stamp…that’s probably the best we can put out at the minute and is what I’d go for.

[WonderGoals]

I’d stick Taylor next to Spence we can’t keep playing Vincent and Spence as the two CM’s…no cutting passes, zero creativity and play far too slow.

Rowe will be back by next game..so he can go RB. Onariase has to come in for Cordner. Bedeau’s dodgy as well but Cordner after that offering needs taking out.

4/5 weeks down the line I’d stick McGahey in as well in place of Bedeau and hopefully Clarke will be back before then as well.

I’d go next match with

O’Malley Onariase Bedeau Rowe

Eisa Spence Taylor Gillead

Olomola Jarvis

Fingers crossed Olomola get’s his fitness up. I’d give Jarvis another go… when he actually got service he looked a good enough player. Good finish as well.

I felt a bit sorry for him, besides the first 15 minutes he had zero service. I’d like McAtee up there but the only problem I have with Cox playing him is that due to his negative nature, he’ll have him playing the no 10 role way back from whoever the central striker is.

I suppose if he played Olomola and Jarvis/Loft….least we’d have 2 actual strikers playing.

[cassidystash]

“Fingers crossed Olomola get’s his fitness up”
“I suppose if he played Olomola and Jarvis/Loft”

See FGR thread.

[WonderGoals]

I suggest you need to see the FGR thread…you’re reading things I haven’t even written. Maybe that’s an age thing.

[cassidystash]

“stick Olomola upfront”
“We really do need Clarke, Mcgahey and Olomola back though before long.”
“Fingers crossed Olomola get’s his fitness up”
“I suppose if he played Olomola and Jarvis/Loft”
I’ve quoted what you’ve written, as I’ve said I’m trying to manage your expectations.

[Ferrite]

I see Eisa started this weekend, did that solve all our problems?

[lesgeo]

Not totally, Ferrite. There remain one or two other relatively minor matters still to be addressed.

Since Bishop’s departure – I have argued in posts, several times a season, that we need a ‘catalyst player’. Call him ‘a leader in the middle of the pitch’ or maybe even a ‘play-maker.’

The titles do not matter. So many on here have argued that you can use younger players provided that the side has a spine. Well, ours doesn’t!

CBs and KVV – fit – then fine but that glaring hole in the middle of the park …

[Ferrite]

I was being tongue-in-cheek Les, seeing as some people seemed to be claiming his omission was the source of all our ills.

I don’t know about Bishop, I never particularly rated him, but he would stand out like a beacon in this current side. What we don’t have is a tallisman. No one who leads the team. No one who the fans can rally behind. A “bandiera” as the Italians call them, the standard-bearer. I know those players aren’t easy to come by but if even we needed one, it’s now.

I completely agree with you about the “glaring hole in the middle of the park”. That’s where the problems lie, I reckon.

[Anonymous]

Ferrite wrote:

I see Eisa started this weekend, did that solve all our problems?

Who said it would? The problems with the team run deeper than who plays between Hippolyte and Eisa. This became a focus because it was an obvious flaw in the team how Hippolyte was somehow keeping Eisa out of the team, despite offering far less.

However, at least Eisa showed he could carve open the defence and possibly create something, if he rediscovers his final touch, which was admittedly poor. Still miles better than what we’ve seen from Hippolyte so far who would struggle to get into any kind of position to be in with a chance of creating something.

Eisa’s return doesn’t rectify the errors you correctly point out with an overrun midfield.

[lesgeo]

Yes, Ferrite. That’s why my first line echoed your sentiment.

If I thought we could get thirty games out of Bish in a season – I’d have him back like a shot at 39. He only managed 23 in his last season at Mansfield, though. Niggling injuries for the most part, I understand. Sigh.

After all, Tony Ford and Beags were great older players for us as total professionals.

[Ferrite]

Anonymous wrote:

Who said it would? The problems with the team run deeper than who plays between Hippolyte and Eisa. This became a focus because it was an obvious flaw in the team how Hippolyte was somehow keeping Eisa out of the team, despite offering far less.

A few people gave that impression with their campaigning for his inclusion.

Hopefully he will come good at some point, there’s not much else to get excited about in this squad.

[Anonymous]

I think there was a hope that it could lead to something better, a better performance with more created chances, but I think people were aware of the deficiencies elsewhere. Maybe they overlooked that to be optimistic.

[cassidystash]

I think that’s right BRI, there are areas in the team that can be improved from within the squad e.g Eisa for Hypolyte and some that can’t at present e.g. Hornshaw at RB. There’s no one thing that will solve our current issues but some (hopefully) beneficial moves can be made.

[Ferrite]

I don’t necessarily agree with you but one thing you can say about a side with Hippolyte in it is that it didn’t concede four at home.

Anyway, my wider point is that some people seemed to see Eisa as a panacea when I think many of us agree that our problems run far, far deeper than one winger.

[DarrynStampGoalMachine]

Oh to have someone like Bish back.

I was never that keen at first. Didn’t look like he did much and I wasn’t sure what he offered.

Then you started to notice when he played we won and when he didn’t we lost.

It’s vital we get some experience in there to stop us falling apart.

[Anonymous]

The problem runs deeper than one winger, yes (as I have said), yet you’ve made it sound like conceding four goals was because we didn’t play Hippolyte who is but one winger.

I don’t think the result would have been any different with Hippolyte in, but we would have looked even more weak up front. Hippolyte would have done nothing to prevent any of those four goals, which came from defensive errors seen throughout the season so far. The one difference is that Forest Green were by far the best team we’ve seen this season and were organised enough to continue exploiting our weaknesses.

People were wanting Eisa in as a means of hoping for the best and because he is better than Hippolyte on best form and even in his current poorer form there are more promising signs. The talk of Hornshaw being played out of position, questions over Spence and Vincent, lack of experience in management and team, and defensive errors have been consistently argued by many on here throughout, so I don’t think it’s fair to start making out people were blind to this and saw Eisa as a foolproof fix.

[Anonymous]

Ferrite wrote:

I don’t necessarily agree with you but one thing you can say about a side with Hippolyte in it is that it didn’t concede four at home.

You’re right. It conceded five.

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