“The knee”

[Ferrite]

Great to see the chairman of a club in this division showing some real leadership and courage, well said Robbie Cowling:

https://www.cu-fc.com/news/2020/december/club-statement/

[Heath]

“I appreciate that a few of you are wanting to hear my views on the issues”.

I certainly don’t and it would have been better if you hadn’t. Stick to the player ratings thread!

[bartonscorpion]

fifty-pence, why should non beleivers in anything come out and look at these things that have no interest to them. My way of keepong away from them and letting them get on with it is the way that I choose to go.
You are against what I said was that it it would be fine to take their action one time, or even for a set time of say four weeks, but you say it should go on until things change, how do you want things to chage to, and who will decide when they have changed???, I never see racism taking place at football games or Formula One meetings, so what actually wants changing???

This all started when the poor guy was killed in America whilst he was being arrested, but as a result gangs went looting businesses that had been built up by inocent people, does anyone agree that this is normal and acceptable, the actual truth is that 9 black people have died as a result of police brutality, but nothing seems to be said about the fact that 56 police have been killed in duty by black criminals, but we never saw protests regarding White Lives Matter.

In my opinion (yes mine), this is being blown up out of all proportions, as a small example, we have one supporter stating that he will now enter the stadium after the players have taken the knee, and as I stated, that I have not seen any racism for many a year at football or cricket matches, and Ihave certainly attended many of them, I just think that it is time to give it a break, and that it will end up by doing more harm than good, as at Millwall last week, what will happen if the booing continues, and is still ongoing when full crouds are allawed, it could most likely end up with riots and fighting like the bad old days of many years ago.

[Awaywego]

“I appreciate that a few of you wanting to hear my views” Really Heath, your views are no more or less than anyone elses, you really are full of your self,time to go to the toilet and get rid.

[bartonscorpion]

Heath wrote:

“I appreciate that a few of you are wanting to hear my views on the issues”.

I certainly don’t and it would have been better if you hadn’t. Stick to the player ratings thread!

Hello Heath I see that you do not change much, why not just stick to being nice when putting things on here, peple have their own views on subjects, and some will nt accept any view of others if they don’t agree with theirs. I respect your view but I bet that you are nasty when you take the knee, it is difficult for you to act any other way, I pity you being so full of nastynes. You must have too much time on your hands now that your school holidays have started, by the way don’t forget to fill in your Prediction League forcasts pal, I remember at the start of the season saying you only joined it to try and beat me, I see that you have rightfully given up that idea ha ha! So enjoy the rest of your school holiday friend and please put your match comments after tomorrow nights two games on the Rating Marks.

[Anonymous]

You only have to listen to the experiences of Lewis Hamilton and black footballers to see why they’re bothered. You seeing or hearing no racism doesn’t make it non-existent or not a problem when it isn’t dealt with sufficiently.

[samways1]

BS – No one is claiming there is racism in F1 or even in football grounds. The sportsmen are simply using their position of influence to highlight the need for racial equality in all aspects of day-to-day life.

“fifty-pence, why should non beleivers in anything come out and look at these things that have no interest to them.”

Well, if you’re a ‘non believer’ in this situation, you’re simply a racist.

[cokeovenkid]

I don’t much use social media now, occasionally looking what’s trending on Twitter. Yesterday after the Millwall thing there was a young chap calling the booing out saying that he was sickened by the abuse black players receive every time they play, he was offering to argue that point with all comers. Today I have just read this one the bbc sport website.

Closed stadiums were both a shelter and a sanctuary for players on the pitch from the continuous hostility to black players and racial justice,” a statement from the FBC said.

Does any of that ring true ?.

I have been up and down the country in 4 different divisions in the last 5 years and I can’t remember the last time ever heard abuse personally. This doesn’t mean I think it’s not happening, it is. But let’s at least be a bit more honest about it. When England played away I heard it and I think at home the last I saw at home I think was at a West Ham game.

I thought kick it out were doing ok and anyone identified was getting what they deserved so why do so many people think kick it out are failing?.

[Northumbiron]

bartonscorpion wrote:

I never see racism taking place at football games or Formula One meetings, so what actually wants changing???

Hand sanitiser, face mask and blinkers then, eh?

As I keep saying, some of you just don’t get it. Or refuse to.

It’s not just about abuse and discrimination in sport. It’s about injustice EVERYWHERE. How can people who work in manufacturing, service industries or the armed services make a gesture?
Sports men and women are taking the knee on behalf of all. That is because their actions are visible. If the staff of M&S took the knee every day before opening the store, who would see it?

Some of you need to give your heads a wobble and wake up to what’s happening outside your comfort zone.

[Awaywego]

Shame Lewis isn’t bothered about going to Saudi,Bahrain,and China to race with all their human rights issues, and it would be nice if he and other sportsman paid their taxes in the UK.

[Awaywego]

Lewis Hamilton “stands with” US sports stars boycotting events to fight racism, but does not think him missing a race would have an effect. 27th Aug 2020.

[Anonymous]

Why is it on Hamilton over any other driver, and how does that change the rights and wrongs of racism?

And it’s not like he has been silent on this issue:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/27/motorsport/lewis-hamilton-f1-human-rights-scli-intl-spt-gbr/index.html

[Awaywego]

No he has been very verbal BRI, But been prepared to sacrifice 25 points by not racing and maybe not winning the championship would have said more than 92 footy teams taking the knee every game, you know it I know it the whole world knows it.

[Heath]

“why not just stick to being nice when putting things on here”. “I pity you being so full of nastynes”.

Not blessed with much self awareness are you?

[Anonymous]

Awaywego wrote:

No he has been very verbal BRI, But been prepared to sacrifice 25 points by not racing and maybe not winning the championship would have said more than 92 footy teams taking the knee every game, you know it I know it the whole world knows it.

That may be, but isn’t that the fault of everyone involved with the sport? By speaking out he’s shown that he might care and it’s more than what others have done. Bit unfair to single him out and even with that it doesn’t make taking a stand against racism any less worthwhile.

[TwoWrights]

Awaywego wrote:

Shame Lewis isn’t bothered about going to Saudi,Bahrain,and China to race with all their human rights issues, and it would be nice if he and other sportsman paid their taxes in the UK.

Hamilton is in the top 5,000 UK tax payers, and has been very vocal about human rights issues.

[Awaywego]

England in Bulgaria could have got the same message across if they had refused to play on at 3-0 up, and forced Uefa to act either against us or the racist countries (and that would include our fans is been racist). me be nice what about everybody else?, I know let’s all be nice to each other especially our chairman Mr Swann.” And hell freezeth over “

[TwoWrights]

Awaywego wrote:

Lewis Hamilton “stands with” US sports stars boycotting events to fight racism, but does not think him missing a race would have an effect. 27th Aug 2020.

Sports boycotts always go down well, or not. Much like the US boycotting the Moscow Olympics because of Russia’s invasion of Afghanistan. Russia retaliated by not attending the L.A. Olympics. Oddly after that the US invaded Afghanistan!

[Awaywego]

He should pay all his taxes in GB, he has the union jack help aloft often enough, and like you say he been very vocal, as have all of us, but he is in that privalged position and could have used it more by taking a stand and do some action.

[Ironawe]

Lewis Hamilton is either a well paid tax dodger or he takes the knee in support of a marxist movement??? I think this is the point of BLM – other drivers took the knee but lets focus on Hamilton – I wonder why??

Those against the BLM movement point to some chav trying to burn the flag but miss the gym instructor risking his own safety to save one of those far right dicks.

[TwoWrights]

Awaywego reminds me very much of Valtteri Bottas, all over the effing place! ;-)

[Gurnelista]

Awaywego wrote:

He should pay all his taxes in GB, he has the union jack help aloft often enough, and like you say he been very vocal, as have all of us, but he is in that privalged position and could have used it more by taking a stand and do some action.

You’re talking about El Presidente, right? And he took ermine, never mind a mere gong.

[cokeovenkid]

Ironawe can I just enquire what the gym instructor ( who did a very courageous deed by the way ) was saving the far right chappie from ?.

[Ironawe]

from himself

[cokeovenkid]

I think you mean he was by himself and that’s why he needed saving, again, what from ?

[Heath]

“Prediction League forcasts pal, I remember at the start of the season saying you only joined it to try and beat me, I see that you have rightfully given up that idea ha ha!”

You are right there, have to admit defeat to you on that one. Mind you forgetting to do it for all last week’s matches didn’t help.

There’s always next season if we still have a team to support.

[Ironawe]

He was saved from a disparate minority intent on causing trouble. He got separated from his disparate group intent on causing trouble. You will always get these types. That shouldn’t detract from a peaceful sign of solidarity these players choose to do. The amount of ‘fans’ triggered by this just shows there is still a long way to go. Believing these players are supporting some marxist conspiracy is nonsense and kind of self defeating.

Just search ‘Casey Goodson’ and see what they are taking the knee for.

[Ferrite]

It doesn’t have to be violence they’re protesting either – what about the appalling treatment of the Windrush generation?

[Awaywego]

Of course I am all over the place Twowrights, I was a shop steward and had to balance will different views, I hate Wilcox as a manager but have and will stick up for the success he had in his promotion season, theres no more bigger a fan of Hamilton than me, but that doesn’t mean I agree with his tax stance, if you have followed the grand Prix season he has been discriminated all through the season been given excessive penalties throughout I believe it’s racial,bet he does to but he just sucks it up which is wrong in itself.

[Greylag]

Taking a knee is an anti racist gesture. Players do it to highlight the fight for racial equality. It is not an endorsement of any political movement. Black Lives Matter is a movement, not a political party. Generally, those who oppose anti-racist gestures are racists. They belong to that group who say “I am not racist, but …..” If taking a knee upsets them, good. Let them be upset.

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