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And there were most sane people observing the fact that Putin has all but turned the gas off to those EU countries that we rely on for exports from, for heating and to produce our own electricity. Still, deflects from the government getting the rightful blame I suppose. Heard that from an energy expert btw. I’ll take his view thanks rather than a Tory on a football forum with an agenda.
I do like this bit though. Every day is a school day – I just never knew Bru was the school, ha ha!
‘because everything, from making bread to manufacturing wind turbines, depends on energy’
I was under the impression these things were created by magic? Talking of magic, I see bpg likes the OP. Respect.
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Time to nationalise all essential service industries then?
Billions in profits yet none of it finds its way down to the “Hundreds of thousands in the UK freezing in their own homes”.
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How about a similar essay from you Bucks on people dying in ambulances because there is no space or not enough staff in our hospitals.
Will that be the fault of politicians of all parties as well?
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He loves making the point some on here ” don’t get it ” bet the thought never occurs that perhaps it’s him that doesn’t.
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I cannot find these figures anywhere else, how should I refine my search.?
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I cannot find these figures anywhere else, how should I refine my search.?
Try http://www.thisboardisafarcegoodbye.com, as once posted by BI. 👌
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What a totally pathetic set of responses, though why should anyone be remotely surprised. Here is an issue driving millions into poverty, which will cause many deaths — far, far more than will ever die from heat — and all you lot can do is politicise and trivialise it.
Of course, while net zero targets have been embraced by the Tory government — what an absurd position for it to take — this whole carbon reduction farrago is very much owned by the left. So, never mind the facts, just ignore the reality and go along with the so-called ‘experts’ who, of course, know what’s best for everyone.
Now, Fans/64, you’ll find these figures very easily if you actually take a little bit of trouble to look for them. One of the best sources is the National Grid’s own live site, which shows in detail the breakdown of electricity generation and supply for the UK. But remember that this is just the country’s supply of electricity, which given our continued reliance on fossil fuels for virtually everything else means the actual contribution of renewables will always be considerably less.
NI, I completely agree with you about energy companies making obscene profits, but it’s rarely quite as simple as people believe. Ultimately, pricing depends on supply and demand just as it always has and always will. Given the UK is now largely at the mercy of global supply — because of net zero targets, of course — our energy costs have soared. What you and many other people love to ignore is that energy companies are being told, on the one hand, that their products will no longer be wanted while, on the other, being blamed for prices created by the inevitable supply shortages resulting directly from such a strategy in the first place. On top of that we’re going to need fossil fuels for decades, but why should any company invest in the future when it’s so uncertain. This means prices will remain high for years.
Deerey, yet another daft comment about “deflecting from the government getting the rightful blame”. Just how ridiculous can you get given it’s this government that introduced the stupid net zero targets in the first place, though of course the Labour party is every bit as bad. But, never mind, eh. I’m sure you’re all nicely wrapped up in your own homes while millions face bills they can’t afford or freeze to death.
Sorry, but no matter how you lot try to spin this the fact is that millions of people face poverty and far too many will die directly because of net zero targets, which will achieve precisely nothing; and, no, that isn’t gaslighting. It’s just the plain truth whatever you lot might wish to believe.
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Yawn. I will take your self-righteous, hokier than thou attitude more seriously when you don’t dismiss the problems caused to the poor because of the consequences of your party and ideology.
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‘But, never mind, eh. I’m sure you’re all nicely wrapped up in your own homes while millions face bills they can’t afford or freeze to death.’
That’s right, blame a handful of posters on a football forum for people freezing to death! Is this the only tactic the Tories have nowadays? Have you not twigged that the British public are seeing right through it? You’re right, probably not much gaslighting from you Bucks, but a series of straw men have been wheeled out!
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Bucks, you can’t agree that companies are still making obscene profits AND argue that they have to raise the tariffs to cover costs.
If they are making big profits they can afford to keep the tariffs as they are or even lower them.
My electricity provider sent me an email today informing me that the unit price is going up by 2p again in January.
Are they doing it because they’re hard up? I doubt it! It’s because Ofgen says they can.
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‘But, never mind, eh. I’m sure you’re all nicely wrapped up in your own homes while millions face bills they can’t afford or freeze to death.’
That’s right, blame a handful of posters on a football forum for people freezing to death! Is this the only tactic the Tories have nowadays? Have you not twigged that the British public are seeing right through it? You’re right, probably not much gaslighting from you Bucks, but a series of straw men have been wheeled out!
He says this, yet complains of us believing we are superior. It’s pure projection and no doubt we are at fault for pointing this out. It will be ‘personal abuse’ to say he is self-righteous.
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Wouldn’t fit the disinformation campaign I’m afraid. Not sure why he persists with this type of propaganda on here tbh. Falls on deaf ears and I doubt anyone viewing will buy it. Absolutely not saying one shouldn’t have an alternative opinion, I think the so called usual suspects have demonstrated that themselves in recent weeks, it’s just all we seem to get from Bucks these days is rigid rhetoric and little else. Anyone who offers any other reason is deemed a fool.
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More personal abuse from the saintly victim.
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I think your wording to his last response proved his point, Bucks. ;-)
We’re all aware of Tory excuses. We have had so many excuses as to why none of these improvements of living can happen. If it wasn’t for the 2008 financial crisis, Brexit preparations, getting a Brexit deal, the pandemic, Ukraine, net zero, the need for austerity to run its course etc we could have given the nurses a pay rise. There’s always an excuse, it’s never the fault of this Tory government; everyone else is to blame, including those of us on here far poorer and without influence than yourself. It doesn’t wash any more; the conditions for many in the public sector, from healthcare to the justice system have been strained for 12 years and the workers complaining. Yeah, I am sure the Tories would have really given a pay rise if it wasn’t for net zero. I was definitely born yesterday. :-)
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