Taking to the knee.

[Anonymous]

They’re not promoting her views though are they? If they are then they’re doing a pretty poor job. I’d expect sermons and lectures, discussions and workshops to disseminate their agenda to the public, since it’s not common knowledge, if this was what it’s about.

[Deereyme66]

The players aren’t supporting Cullors or BLM. Some are determined to believe that’s the case. Quite why is open to interpretation.

[Lord Kitchener]

billpuntonsghost wrote:

I take this opportunity to condemn the racist abuse England players received after last nights match.I noticed there was no racist abuse inside the ground as usual.

Whom ever these people are, they wouldn’t dare shout the abuse in the stadium, or even on the streets outside. T’internet has given little scrotes the opportunity to post freely with little chance of being caught. The social media platforms they are using, should seriously think about installing filters, so that certain trigger words would prevent a message from getting through.

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[WonderGoals]

Northumbiron, you can’t ignore this so called “crap”. Read up about her, it’s not hard. Players are bending down to the knee which is directly tied to black lives matter.

That much you can’t deny. The woman herself comes across a hate filled lunatic who openly states she’s a trained bloody marxist.

How does one train to be a marxist ?. I can’t answer that. I do know for certain she had close ties and was under the tutelage of a leader of another marxist leader of a group from the 80’s.

“Cullors was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology.

Look it up. You will find information about it. Honestly, it’s not hard.

She’s a hate filled con artist.

Some info on two of the founders Northumbiron. This may answer your “how do you train to be a marxist question.

In a 2015 interview, Patrice Cullors, another of the three founders, said that she and Garza were “trained Marxists.” Abdullah, of the Los Angeles BLM chapter, was born a red-diaper baby—“Raised in the 70s, in the picket lines of Oakland, by activist parents,” as the interviewer put it. Her paternal grandfather was Gunter Reimann, a member of the German Communist Party. Garza cut her organizing teeth as director of People Organized to Win Employment Rights (POWER), founded by Marxists Garth Ferguson, Patty Snitzler, Regina Douglas, Brian Russell, and Steve Williams. To Williams we owe the concept of “transformative organizing,” which insists “that effective organizing for social change cannot simply be based on an apolitical and highly specific analysis of what is possible in the short term.”

Cullors trained for a decade as a radical organizer in the Labor/Community Strategy Center, established and run by Eric Mann, a former member of the Weather Underground, the 1960s radical faction identified by the FBI as a domestic terrorist group. The “Weathermen” explained in their 1969 foundational statement that they were dedicated to “the destruction of U.S. imperialism and the achievement of classless world: world communism.” The ties between the BLM Global Network and the Weathermen run deep

[Anonymous]

What all that waffle has to do with players making a stand against racism I don’t know. The knee may be associated with BLM through use at protests*, but they don’t own it, it originates from American football, not some sinister Marxist conspiracy.

*Heck, protests don’t necessarily mean anything. The actual organisation is small. The protesters are mostly people off the street, not some fiendish activist group.

[WonderGoals]

The whole organization was set up really to disrupt but if millionaire footballers bending down and taking a knee jump start companies/people to pump money and time into these neighbour hoods which need help then fair play.

[Anonymous]

The BLM organisation have about as much influence over politics as the SWP, if that. Pygmies. Not worth getting so hysterical over. They have as much chance of upending politics as Scotland winning the world cup.

[WonderGoals]

“The actual organisation is small. The protesters are mostly people off the street, not some fiendish activist group.”

So you have 3 hate filled women who have dedicated years of their lives to learn off other Marxist leaders/organizations and this isn’t a group which wasn’t hate filled crap, dressed up as something good and delivered the unsuspecting people of U.S.A “now many other countries” ?

You’re talking about a super organized organization, funded to the bloody hilt with 3 founders at the helm who were all well versed in Marxist idealisms.

The way you’re talking you’d have thought they’re a worldwide W.I type group lol

I’m not getting hysterical. I’m just simply stating common knowledge.

[Anonymous]

The last time I checked the protests had more than 3 people. Protesters does not equal members of an organisation, does it? An SWP front ran the Iraq War protests in 2003. Does that mean the SWP were incredibly strong? No, because the protesters were obviously not part of the SWP. Same applies here.

You’re expressing what 3 people stand for. You’re not expressing what every protester does, nor the footballers.

[Northumbiron]

WonderGoals wrote:

Northumbiron, you can’t ignore this so called “crap”. Read up about her, it’s not hard.

I’ve “read up on it” long before today, thank you very much!

And I’ll reiterate what myself and many others have said on here. Footballers are doing it to highlight social injustice, end of!

Stop trying to read sinister stuff into it.

[WonderGoals]

Ok, I cave in. The Black Lives Matter movement is a relatively innocent, small organization, created by 3 rag tag idiots who just happened to be well versed in Marxist idealisms.

They did receive extensive backing monetarily but I suppose they must have looted many extremely large money tree’s.

Who knows ?

I suppose anything is possible.

[Anonymous]

Your sarcasm has shown me the light. Now I realise every single protester who goes to a BLM march, even if they don’t share those beliefs, are actually committed Marxists being funded by sinister forces. If I go to show my support it’s obviously because I am a committed Marxist under the power of others, not some person going to a cause for anti-racism motives.

[WonderGoals]

I never said good couldn’t come such a sinister, dodgy organization. I hope it does.

As I said above “if millionaire footballers bending down and taking a knee jump start companies/people to pump money and time into these neighbour hoods which need help then fair play”

Look, if they band people together and a nationwide support system is created to go into these neighbourhoods to help the vulnerable then fair play. A 10-20yr plan “purely an estimate on my part”

If nothing really get’s done about it, all we will be left with is multi millionaire sportsmen virtue signalling.

I’m not a fan of politicising sport but there you go.

[Anonymous]

Going to a protest doesn’t make you part of an organisation. I take it you believe 5 million people were part of the SWP in 2003 because their front organised anti-Iraq war protests.

[MK Iron]

Terminology alert BRI.

Apparently you don’t commit to being a Marxist – you become trained in it. Seems the training makes you an eve more despicable human being.

Must be true because its on you tube.

Could someone please move this bollocks to non football?

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[Iron-awe]

Meanwhile bill continues to post untruths about the England players taking the knee without a shred of proof to back himself up. It’s basically lying but I’m not sure how his conscience copes with that, he must be in turmoil when attempting to broadcast a lie that surely goes against his beliefs. Why does he do it I wonder?

[Xxx]

I’m afraid it won’t happen cos they all like talking bollocks watch

[Yossarian Lives]

now that lover boy Bucky has deserted BRIan he has found a new love in Wonder Bowels. awww dont you love it love at first sight

[WonderGoals]

MK Iron wrote:

Apparently you don’t commit to being a Marxist – you become trained in it. Seems the training makes you an eve more despicable human being.

Research it before rubbishing it. Information is not hard to find. It’s your choice if you’re choosing to ignore it.

I personally don’t care if your willingly walking through life blinkered ignoring it or if you read into it and actually begin to accept it as reality.

Honestly don’t give a crap either way. It’s the reality though. Wealth or stuff you can read, some independent reporters have dug into the 3 of them and investigated them and how they become leaders of such an organization.

They do obviously do that for a living. Wealth of things out there you can read. I’ve included one video in this thread which even shows her admitting it. There’s are a few other video’s as well.

That is indeed Cullors “one of the founders”

Watch it, only a small clip…won’t take too much of your time. They all have ties to either marxist leaders or organizations.

People learning to be a marxist is no more unbelievable than it is somebody who trains to be a terrorist/ muslim extremist.

All starts with indoctrination and idealisms. Not that hard to fathom is it really ?

I’m not claiming these people were beamed up by Aliens and spend upwards of 10 yrs reading text books provided by Dr Spock.

Are you lot winding me up or are you just wilfully ignorant ?

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[TwoWrights]

If the three founders of BLM we’re Jesus*, Gandhi and Nicholas Winton I’d stake a year’s pension ‘some’ on here would find instant fault. 😜

* Other fictional figures available.

[Awaywego]

Nice to see the knee getting 15 mins on politics live, what did Diane Abbot say that Jo Coburn told her off for, the grand kid shouted at the time and Coburn said she couldn’t repeat it,Diane didn’t apologize though like many others.

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