Swindon Result.

[tonka]

In the Second half I’m afraid pugh looked like a makeshift fullback,Kenyon was lumbering around having no effect whatsoever,bunn not tracking back enough when he came over to the right and hallam runs around alot, but as a so called striker I can’t remember him having a serious strike at goal,another proper right back is needed, get perry in midfield, a right sided winger who attacks and gets back to defend and the most difficult job of the lot ,find someone to stick the ball in the back of the net.

[Sanfran49]

So yet again someone who was played out of position gets criticised – Tom Pugh is not a FB !
Doesn’t that sound familiar Hornshaw got sacrificed and no thanks for doing the job !!

Last season Jai Rowe was injured but this season he isn’t so why didn’t he start ?
At Left Back why didn’t Mason O’Malley start ?

The managers after match he said Green wasn’t well so why was he even out there ?

Long season ahead I fear for you.

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alcazar

[tonka]

The point I was making about pugh is the fact pugh is not a fullback,we signed millen for that role but should have signed 2 proper rightbacks not just the one,we got Thompson to challenge omalley for the left back role but only one rightback a strange decision in my humble opinion, so if you are going to use players as makeshift fullbacks it’s not fair on them,hornshaw played rightback last season and its not his normal midfield position just like pugh and look what happened to him he’s now at Gainsborough I believe, opposition teams aren’t stupid they see our weakness and play on it.

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alcazar

[alcazar]

Iron-awe wrote:

alcazar wrote:

So….
If Swindon had five players two weeks ago, how did they manage to sign better players than we did in six weeks?

Come on alcy get your head out your arse, the new guy at Swindon will have bunged a lot of money into the squad really quickly whereas we have the lowest budget in the division. Do you spend all day sleeping in that bloody shed, waking up occasionally to post crap for the sake of it? Wake up man.

Bit harsh.
Unlike some on here i dont have the time (or inclination) to follow the fortunes of every club.
So much so that when England play, I have very little idea as to who the players are, or who their parent clubs are…unless I watch with my youngest.

But don’t let any of that deny you a chance at a rant, or an insult or two.

[Northumbiron]

Sanfran49 wrote:

So yet again someone who was played out of position gets criticised – Tom Pugh is not a FB !
Doesn’t that sound familiar Hornshaw got sacrificed and no thanks for doing the job !!

And before that it was Levi Sutton.

Unfortunate that Millen got injured pre-season, and that Billson got injured after 45 minutes and O’Neill after 30.

But we’re not talking injuries after one game surely?

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alcazar

[cassidystash]

scunnymatt88 wrote:

Same old dross today im just glad i didnt waste more money watching it.
I think signing an experienced keeper was a must i personally would have got joe murphy back for another year or two hes someone who commands the back four.
A right back is needed because pugh is just another hornshaw i feel but yet the club see different somehow then even play him out of position.
We also need a pacey winger and a poacher type of striker who can play off loft.
Teams dont have to come and work hard for the 3 points we make it so easy for them.
Swindon have quality where it counts and in anthony grant and jack payne they are far better than our shambles.

Interesting comments from somebody who admits he didn’t watch the game. Can I ask what you are basing those opinions on?

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Meldrew

[Iron-awe]

alcazar wrote:

Iron-awe wrote:

alcazar wrote:

So….
If Swindon had five players two weeks ago, how did they manage to sign better players than we did in six weeks?

Come on alcy get your head out your arse, the new guy at Swindon will have bunged a lot of money into the squad really quickly whereas we have the lowest budget in the division. Do you spend all day sleeping in that bloody shed, waking up occasionally to post crap for the sake of it? Wake up man.

Bit harsh.
Unlike some on here i dont have the time (or inclination) to follow the fortunes of every club.
So much so that when England play, I have very little idea as to who the players are, or who their parent clubs are…unless I watch with my youngest.

But don’t let any of that deny you a chance at a rant, or an insult or two.

[/quo
Don’t worry I wont, you know the position of the club budget wise and you basically rehash the same old tripe to come on here and say the same thing. We get it you want Swann gone along with a few more of us but just do a bit of research before posting the same old bilge and as for the current squad, yes they lack quality but the effort of the team yesterday was commendable compared to last season and over the season they will be better to watch at least from that point of view. To compare a relegated club, however a dire position they were in up until recently, with our threadbare squad backed with the smallest budget in the Football league is just plain stupid, so deal with it because sometimes you get what your stupidity deserves.

[barriethomas]

I am hoping Cameron Wilson might be the winger with pace. UTWI

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lesgeo

[DarrynStampGoalMachine]

barriethomas wrote:

I am hoping Cameron Wilson might be the winger with pace. UTWI

Hopefully he’ll get a start Tuesday so we can have a look at him. Trouble is he’ll probably get picked at right back.

Hoping to see Collins as well assuming Bilson isnt fit.

[Sanfran49]

tonka wrote:

The point I was making about pugh is the fact pugh is not a fullback,we signed millen for that role but should have signed 2 proper rightbacks not just the one,we got Thompson to challenge omalley for the left back role but only one rightback a strange decision in my humble opinion, so if you are going to use players as makeshift fullbacks it’s not fair on them,hornshaw played rightback last season and its not his normal midfield position just like pugh and look what happened to him he’s now at Gainsborough I believe, opposition teams aren’t stupid they see our weakness and play on it.

They do and judging by the post match interview with humbersides Mike White the buck stops with Mr Cox, it was like a re-run of all the interviews last season for goodness sake.

ps: Lewis Butroid didn’t get a game last season and then released, anyone telling me the replacements have been an improvement ? We got rid of Kyle Wootton – are his replacements an improvement and the best decision of our managerial experts that after spending 4 years developing a 19yr old CB we then sell for next to nothing and how many replacements have we signed since then that are nowhere near good enough !

Look where we are !

[WonderGoals]

Thing what I think Bizzare is that we had a proper natural RB on the bench and he still choose to play Pugh there. I get Cox long term see’s him as a CB but Pugh was really struggling.

One big problem for me is CM. Kenyon doesn’t look like to me he has any real mobility or athleticism.

If we’re to keep playing him in a 2 man midfield, Beestin will run himself into the floor to compensate and will completely stifle what he offers going forward.

People keep saying Perry should get the nod but the only problem is, is that he’s quite expansive and likes to pick the ball up and spray it around and Beestin is quite forward thinking as well. I fear those two will be a bit too attack minded.

I can’t for the life of me see those two working. Only ways to fix the central midfield problem is either bring a defensive one in sharpish on loan or play 3 central midfielders with Kenyon sitting deep, least then he’ll have the mobility of Perry and Beestin to bail him out.

I suppose you could try Beestin and Perry together but you’ll be asking Beestin to sit and it’s not really his game. Early days but I don’t I’ve ever witnessed a central Midfielder who looks like they were wading in quick sand.

I remember seeing Baraclough when we signed him at the rip old age of 33/34yr old and in comparison Kenyon may as well be a 60yr old.

O’Malley not starting didn’t make sense to me. What really puzzled me most was that if Green was ill and wasn’t performing as a result, why didn’t Cox bring O’Malley on at LW and take him off ?

Really worrying post match comment from Cox was that he hinted it was a bit like last season where the players forgot what they we’re told and started to just do what they wanted.

Only issue with that is, is that this is nearly a completely fresh group of players so if this is a running theme and carries over from last season then the buck has to stop with the manager because he’s clearly not getting his point/ideas across.

I really hope Kenyon picks it up though because if that’s just what he offers naturally then we’re in deep shit, he’ll just end up getting played around and sped past with anybody with any kind of mobility and running in their legs.

I’ve never seen anything like it. Players are usually slow off the mark and take a bit to hit top speed but he’s slow off the mark but never get’s up to speed. The effort is there but he never seems to get anywhere.

Tell you he did remind off, the somewhat shot version of Sparrow we signed. The 2nd version who had lost his drive, pace and mobility.

Not going to lie but he was the biggest let down. I was expecting an all action Stephen Dawson type of player but on that showing it was like having a Stephen Dawson who had come back 3 weeks early from a broken leg.

Woefully short in this squad as we all knew was the case. I admire Cox for finally opting for 4/4/2 but we haven’t got the right personnel to play it. Poor out wide, Kenyon hasn’t got the legs to cover the ground and Loft hasn’t got the strike partner we all hoped would come in.

Only natural left winger we have in the squad is Hippolyte and I wouldn’t even count him as a viable option after last seasons showings.

Not got a good feeling about this season. Cox was asked about loans coming in and he was non committal and unsure. Sounded like to me that he put all his eggs in one basket and was turned down at last minute.

Put it this way, he wants to seriously get a move on and get those 3 or 4 loans in. No pissing around waiting for the supposed holy grail of loan player, I’m not sure we can afford to wait too long.

Honourable mention for Watson, he made a few saves but let’s be honest he was crap as well. I almost didn’t even mention him as it’s almost a gimme now that he’s going to perform like that.

Even worse still is that if we can’t get a loan striker in anytime soon, we have Big Bad Turan and Jarvis to come in.

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[alcazar]

Iron-awe wrote:

alcazar wrote:

Iron-awe wrote:

alcazar wrote:

So….
If Swindon had five players two weeks ago, how did they manage to sign better players than we did in six weeks?

Come on alcy get your head out your arse, the new guy at Swindon will have bunged a lot of money into the squad really quickly whereas we have the lowest budget in the division. Do you spend all day sleeping in that bloody shed, waking up occasionally to post crap for the sake of it? Wake up man.

Bit harsh.
Unlike some on here i dont have the time (or inclination) to follow the fortunes of every club.
So much so that when England play, I have very little idea as to who the players are, or who their parent clubs are…unless I watch with my youngest.

But don’t let any of that deny you a chance at a rant, or an insult or two.

[/quo
Don’t worry I wont, you know the position of the club budget wise and you basically rehash the same old tripe to come on here and say the same thing. We get it you want Swann gone along with a few more of us but just do a bit of research before posting the same old bilge and as for the current squad, yes they lack quality but the effort of the team yesterday was commendable compared to last season and over the season they will be better to watch at least from that point of view. To compare a relegated club, however a dire position they were in up until recently, with our threadbare squad backed with the smallest budget in the Football league is just plain stupid, so deal with it because sometimes you get what your stupidity deserves.

Do my research?

You really are a thick wnaker aren’t you?
Which part of I HAVEN’T TIME are you not understanding?
I’m a 24/7 carer for my paraplegic wife, you tosser.
I have little time and zero inclination to read about the fortunes of any club except the Iron.
Deal with that.

[Iron-awe]

This thread isn’t about you Mr abusive saddo, back in your shed where I’m sure you partake regularly on what you just stated above.

[WonderGoals]

When did you two become such good friends ?

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Iron-awe

[Iron-awe]

You should hear us on a bad day WG. 😂

[lesgeo]

Play nicely.

Getting ready for the granddaughters coming to stay.

[alcazar]

WonderGoals wrote:

When did you two become such good friends ?

LOL.
When i outed the onanist as a club stooge.

Nasty piece of work isn’t he?

[Pat O’Cake]

Rory was not at fault for ANY of the goals! It’s all well and good saying the keeper in the 1st half didn’t concede, of course he didn’t as he didn’t have a shot to save!! Why not try blaming the clowns in front of him for not closing down quickly enough instead of letting them get the shot away???

As for the club apologist saying 4 or 5 of Swindon’s players would start for any league 2 team, what an idiotic comment to make, unless of course he has seen every other league 2 club play, one game into the season!

Swindon were bang average and absolutely tore us a new one in the 2nd half!

[Ferrite]

The criticism of Watson is bizarre based on what I saw – for their third goal, I thought he made a very good save in what Misteron Mick tells me is his weakness. It was a powerful shot and he is entitled to expect one of his defenders to react.

The Swindon equaliser also stemmed from Loft’s complete inability to hold up the ball, a 10-yard first touch that immediately put us under pressure. Loft has plenty to offer but he cannot be expected to act as a target man.

On the upside, Loft’s penalty is one of the best struck Scunny penalties I’ve seen in a long, long time.

[mistertonmick]

Read it again Ferrite, I said his weakness was cross shots like the second goal which 75% beat him, it was DarrynStampGoalMachine who said his weakness was parrying shots straight back to the forward instead of away from goal

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Ferrite

[Anonymous]

I certainly thought Watson could have done better with goal number 3, in what was a good save, but a poor place to parry it to. However, he had no chance with goal number 2.

Regardless, he has been here several seasons now and while it’s too early to tell this time round, his stats in the previous ones are abysmal. Every year we bring a goalkeeper in because he’s not good enough. Every goalkeeper brought in has much better stats than Watson, despite the defence towards Watson that it’s the chumps around him. Watson hasn’t been here during our better years, but the excuse wear thin. Year in, year out, he has poor stats compared to other goalkeepers at the club. There’s only so long people can finger wag at anyone else, surely. He’s not good enough.

He’s not the only problem, and I am not trying to say our defence has been wonderful, but Watson is a problem.

[Iron-awe]

mistertonmick wrote:

Read it again Ferrite, I said his weakness was cross shots like the second goal which 75% beat him, it was DarrynStampGoalMachine who said his weakness was parrying shots straight back to the forward instead of away from goal

Except it wasn’t a straight foreward cross shot just blasted in with power mick, it had a lovely subtle bend on it that went inside the far post, it was a cracking finish. The new lad would not have got near it either IMO and I and others in the East Stand had the best view in the entire ground, so thats what i’m basing my reply on. Not saying Rory hasn’t got a weakness on cross shots but Swindon’s second was more then that.

[cassidystash]

Agree with BRI, Watson has not grasped the principal that if you can’t hold a shot then you don’t push the ball back into the centre of the penalty area, he’s done it time after time and it usually costs us a goal. Hasn’t the GK coach spotted this yet or is Watson not listening?

[mistertonmick]

you get a different view from the other side but most goals he concedes are from cross shots whether he could have saved them or not.

[Ferrite]

Anonymous wrote:

certainly thought Watson could have done better with goal number 3, in what was a good save, but a poor place to parry it to.

I understand the principle and I appreciate that this is sometimes true but realistically what do you expect a keeper to do in such a position? He has to focus on saving the shot and if it’s powerful like in that case it’s very hard if not impossible to push the ball anywhere else. And if you’re thinking about doing that, you’re more likely to make a mistake with the original save.

The back 4 deserve far more criticism for that goal – Pugh for his miskick and the 24 for failing to follow their centre forward. Taft could/should have also been following in the shot too, looking to stop the rebound.

We know Watson has his failings but there’s no point looking too hard for them.

[Awaywego]

I wouldn’t play Rory tomorrow, if it goes to Penalties Rory’s never saved one.But then again he must be due to save one.

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