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    BottesfordIrons5North Lincolnshire Irons
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    Swann the ball is firmly in your court. We, Scunthorpe United FC, being in the Football League for the last 71 years, are now facing relegation in the face. Swann has brought us to where we are now. So SWANN THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT SCUNTHORPE UNITED FC EITHER STAY IN THE EFL OR ARE NON LEAGUE NEXT SEASON.

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    Lord KitchenerLord Kitchener
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    Come on Swanny, prove us all wrong.

    You made the correct manager change, albeit three months too late, minimum. Now please back that decision up by paying off the EFL loan and getting behind Keith Hill with some money for new and better players.

    He knows this league and a lot of the players in it. A striker, big and nasty (as some on here like to call them) is the very least we need. It’s desperate!

    UTBI

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    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Well I am glad you’ve cleared that up NLI, don’t think I would have got it if you hadn’t put it in capitals, what exactly does Swann have to do?.

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    Do you really think he is interested ?
    Will put minimum in to get maximum out when we fold !

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    Well I am glad you’ve cleared that up NLI, don’t think I would have got it if you hadn’t put it in capitals, what exactly does Swann have to do?.

    What he needs to do is f*ck off.

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    Swann the ball is firmly in your court. We, Scunthorpe United FC, being in the Football League for the last 71 years, are now facing relegation in the face. Swann has brought us to where we are now. So SWANN THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT SCUNTHORPE UNITED FC EITHER STAY IN THE EFL OR ARE NON LEAGUE NEXT SEASON.

    Ball’s been in the fat tw@ court some time now.
    Seen anything at all that says he’s bothered?

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    BottesfordIrons5North Lincolnshire Irons
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    Well awaywego if you don’t know know you never will. The time for sarcasm is not know. SWANN stated at a meeting that if necessary he would pay off the efl loan, which would surely enable us to bring in much needed additions to our squad. I would say it’s definitely necessary. But the the man talks in riddles, as in the next breath he is saying I’m not putting any more of my money into the club. Well he’s spent all the clubs money and taken the assets and ground to pay off HIS huge spending debt. I would say THE BALL IS DEFINITELY IN SWANNS COURT.

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    SODIronSODIron
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    We are where we are because of Swann’s mismanagement, even if he paid off the EFL loan we are still stuffed due to the FFP rules.

    We avoided relegation by the skin of our teeth last season, and this time I am 100% certain that we will not be as lucky. When (not if) we get relegated we will likely end up in administration as the club is operating at a significant loss right now. If we end up in administration then it is likely the end for Scunthorpe United FC. The truth is we are not a ‘brand’ that anyone potential saviour would want to buy. We own no real assets, have dwindling attendances, and no one wants to come to Scunny.

    Oblivion awaits.

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    What the fat man says and what he does, or what happens, are often diametrically opposite.
    How long before we are allowed to use the “L” word?

    Swann, you’ve wrecked this club on every level you rotten sh1t, get gone.

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    #220903
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Will that improve our situation or results for that matter?. No of course not, it’s down to Hill now to see if he can make a silk purse out of a pig’s ear, obviously all will hope he’s successful other than you Alcy.

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    Can you answer this. If coolsilk owns the club assets. What happens if we go into administration?

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    IronaweIronawe
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    I think Swann knows the answer to that question, he’s fully aware of it and will benefit the most out of any wind up of the club.

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    You can tell Hill is losing the will now. Hill is even saying himself the players simply aren’t good enough. Hill has done well to get what he’s gotten out of them but as Hill and we all say, they just aren’t good enough.

    They seriously need help in terms of recruitment. Hill always seemed bullish and always said he would get what he could out of them until January so we could sign players and push on.

    Swann had clearly given him assurances as to players coming in because there’s no way he would come here just to limp over the line in last place miles off the pace.

    Swann seriously needs to get his arse in gear…he could quite easily pay Turan off for instance, get him off the books and get a player in on a free transfer, he really needs to start spending some money.

    If Swann let’s the club go to shit without even a fight, he needs to be absolutely ashamed of himself.

    This is complete shit by him.

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    I assume that any money spent would be another loan, is there any collateral left as security?

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    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    If we go into administration we just need a new owner,said owner will then have to rent the ground off coolsilk as per agreement, failure to find interested party the club would be liquidated and coolsilk would own an empty stadium and land as they do at this moment in time. The only plus if you could call it a plus is interested parties would only acquire a debt of probably £3 million instead of £14 million ish if coolsilk hadn’t acquired the ground.

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    Well Mr Swann we all know you or others read these pages – previous threats of legal communication say that.

    So here goes – check back on your previous Radio Humberside interviews and listen to what you promised regarding the EFL Loan and transfer dealings for the January window !!

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    BottesfordIrons5North Lincolnshire Irons
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    It’s not down to Hill now Awaywego, it’s purely down to SWANN and put his money where his MOUTH is. But then he never does what he says he is going to do anyway does he. Hill has done extremely well with the players he has, getting them fit and trying to get them playing attacking football. What has SWANN DONE, he’s got us where we are now no ground, no assets and looking likely to drop out of the football league for the first time in 70 YEARS.

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    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    But when Swanny has put money where is mouth is it incurs debt, Something that you have moaned about on this thread, what do you really want? I’m quite happy with debt like I have said before it will never be my debt or yours so why worry about it. All this bollocks about no ground and no assets if a new owner comes in and wants them he will dip n his pocket and buy them and I doubt whether it will cost the £11 million that coolsilk paid,wrote off whatever you want to call it.

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    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    But when Swanny has put money where is mouth is it incurs debt

    Awaywego, there is a difference between putting money in the club and then choosing to run it like a top end league 1/bottom end championship club and spending more than a 100% of what the clubs revenue is.

    I think we can agree, that’s just pure negligence.

    If Swann had sensibly and strategically put money into the club, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

    It’s ok now Swann refusing to put money in the club because he’s supposedly safeguarding the club, but, it’s too late as the damage has already been done.

    This is the time now when we do really, really need investment and he’s letting us all down.

    Wouldn’t you agree, awaywego ?

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    it will never be my debt or yours so why worry about it.

    Because the knock on effects could end up with us going out of business like Bury, Macclesfield and others before them.

    I don’t know about you, but that worries me!

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    Of course it worries me NI nobody wants to be in there position, But if it happens there is life after, Maccs got over 3500 there yesterday,even Bury AFC are getting 1000 there, that is of course if scunny fans aren’t the worst, we would do the same. The real Bury have just got their ground back, they want to start in a real low lge and build up slowly can you imagine what fun there both having and going to have climbing the league’s. Ps WG no.

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    If THE club was asked if it would have paid the £200K p.a. salary of mr rodwell what would it have said ? The club was never asked – someone made that decision.

    Was that salary part of the debt – the £11 million plus ?

    It is like the ridiculous recruitment policy that has wasted millions and still is wasting money, why is the club saddled with a debt that the club had no say in !! The club would never have signed many of what arrived and departed, now would they ?

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    We’re a long way off the bottom of the curve yet.

    This is the weakest side I can remember, and I go back nearly 50 years.

    The last time we finished in the bottom 2, back in 81/82 – there were players in that side – such as Andy Keeley, Bob Oates, Cammack, Neenan etc who would absolutely walk into the current side.

    Anyone who thinks the National League is as low as we’ll go is in for a rude awakening as well even if we survive as a football club – this lot would be bottom 6 in that league as well.

    For that, Swann has to take full credit. We are being penalised for his profligate and ultimately fruitless early spending.

    Bad decision has followed bad decision – whining excuse has followed whining excuse – and everyone will surely agree that the numerous statements he’s made over the years as to the future of the club and the ground have not been borne out in truth.

    Had he any intention of trying to repair the damage he’s inflicted the loan would have been paid off and there would have been early incomings.

    The departure of Loft and the arrival of a replacement with no league experience tells you all you need to know.

    We’re off down without a shadow of a doubt and Swann takes full blame – not Covid, not the supporters, not bad luck, not the players, not the plethora of ex managers – just Swann.

    I’d have more time for him if he owned up to his failed stewardship of the club and owned his mistakes rather then blaming the world and his wife for his own miserable shortcomings.

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    It’s not over til the fat man swings

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    A total in the mid 40’s might just see us stay up by the skin of our teeth.

    That probably equates to something like 7 or 8 wins and a few draws thrown in from the last 22 games meaning we’d need to hit something like mid table form.

    Given we’ve won 3 from the first 24, haven’t been in mid table form for 4 seasons and have just shipped our top scorer out, then whilst as you say, it’s not over until it’s over I’m somewhat sceptical as to our chances of getting anywhere close to that total.

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    I’ve been one of Lofts biggest advocates but come on 4 goals in the lge earning us 4 pts with them, we need someone to score more than that to keep us in the lge , guess he would be one of the top earners, got money for him, as well as releasing a place for someone else to come in under the embargo, Hardly a punt in the dark for us.

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    Awaywego, it’s not the fact we let him go, we let him go without a replacement already lined up. That’s the unforgivable part.

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    No matter which way you cut it the club has a very bleak future, and as many on here have already said, this is all down to the way Swann has chosen to run the club.

    Even if we do the unlikely and survive the drop this season does anyone really think next season will be any better? Swann has made it abundantly clear that he is no longer going to invest into the club, and so far, this is the ONLY promise he has delivered on.

    Having said several time in interviews that if anyone wants to buy the club they should contact him, so it’s clear to me that Swann is looking for a way out. Him shifting the ground / land ownership to Coolsilk was a master stroke for a businessman. If the club does end up going into administration the creditors cannot take the real assets (the ground and surrounding land) as they aren’t owned by Scunthorpe United. Scunthorpe United FC Ltd could then dissolved, no more football club, and Swann is left holding the assets. He could knock the ground down, selling the scrap, put in planning permission for more homes / flats / whatever, and walk away with a tidy profit.

    I am not saying that this was Swann’s idea from the start, indeed I actually think he did have intentions of getting us into a new ground and the Championship when he arrived. But his failed gamble has resulted in our current plight, and the chips have fallen in such a way that Coolsilk stand to benefit from the failure of Scunthorpe United as a business.

    DISCLAIMER: All the above is pure conjecture and is not intended to slander, misrepresent, cause harm or distress to Peter Swann, his family, his business interests, business partners, or anyone else associated with the club, Coolsilk, and / or Peter Swann.

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    That I think is the key.

    Whether you rated him or not, letting Loft go tells you everything you need to know.

    Anything not nailed down and worth more than a tenner gets sold – so the only striker we have with any sort of experience leaves the building without an experienced replacement coming in. All we get is another cheap short term loan.

    As I say, whether he’s a long term loss is irrelevant.

    His performances last season were materiel in keeping us up and if you have any intention of trying to stay up this season you aren’t parting company with one of the very few sources of goals you actually have unless you are looking to trade up.

    All this nonsense about him leaving on a free in the summer is rubbish as well.

    Relegation will come at a much greater price than the £50k or whatever they chiselled out of Rovers and everyone knows it, or at least should do.

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    Good post apb- sums up my feelings at the moment.

    Rock bottom will definitely not be the national league with Swann at the helm; crowds will continue to drop and sooner rather than later I wouldn’t be surprised if he completely cut off life support.

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